What do you believe awaits you?

Archeron

I'm asking this in the Paranormal section as opposed to Spirituality as I'm interested in hearing the opinions of the posters here.

Many of the posters here have shared stories of their encounters with paranormal activity. Does this, in your opinion, give you more of an insight into the existance of a hereafter than a person who has never witnessed such events?

Has it ever shaken your beliefs and made you rethink what you held to be given truths? And if I may be so intrusive; knowing what youu know about paranormal activivty, what do you believe happens to us after death, and has this been influenced by occurances which could not be explained by modern science?

For me personally, I believe in the concept of "God" insofar as I believe there is a higher force. I dont know what form that force would take, but i think it is the reason we are here. The experiences I have had that could not be explained actually re-inforced this for me, as it made me think that we are not just lumps of flesh afterall, and we can interact in the world without a physical presence, thus proving a higher force (no guarantee given:p )
How do you all feel on this?

Zillah

Mostly, I don't know.

I suspect complete oblivion. But that doesn't really scare me, no more than the oblivion there was before I was born.

I'd be nice if there were planes with shining lights and magic pixies, but I really doubt there is.

If there is something we'd term as "God", then its a being/force that is so far beyond our capacity to comprehend that its pointless, and any attempts that we do make will ultimately be ludicrously innacurate and rife with our own biases.

kshiel

Well My belief is there is life after death. Not an over religious person but I do think our souls do pass over to a new place. Read once that we are here on earth to experience all emontions that have been set out for us. When we die we go over to examine our life we left here and how we acted i.e good or bad, in short we judge our selves with no where to turn for hiding. We grow there and learn from our mistakes and get ready to do it all over again as someone else with different experiences and a different life to lead. Therefore we live many lives to enable us to experience everything this world can throw at us and as we die after each life we move to higher planes of existance. They say our guides are people who have lived so many lives and experienced everything that now are sent to us to help us through our life on earth. Maybe gone off beating track with this but found it an interesting theory. :rolleyes:

magnumlady

I'm sure there is life after death too.
I think we've all been here before. I think after you die you go somewhere for a while (don't know where). Then after a time you are reincarnated.

jeep

kshiel wrote:

Well My belief is there is life after death. Not an over religious person but I do think our souls do pass over to a new place. Read once that we are here on earth to experience all emontions that have been set out for us. When we die we go over to examine our life we left here and how we acted i.e good or bad, in short we judge our selves with no where to turn for hiding. We grow there and learn from our mistakes and get ready to do it all over again as someone else with different experiences and a different life to lead. Therefore we live many lives to enable us to experience everything this world can throw at us and as we die after each life we move to higher planes of existance. They say our guides are people who have lived so many lives and experienced everything that now are sent to us to help us through our life on earth. Maybe gone off beating track with this but found it an interesting theory. :rolleyes:

I like that theory I think ill go with that!

GuanYin

Zillah wrote:

I'd be nice if there were planes with shining lights and magic pixies, but I really doubt there is.

why do the pixies need to be magic?


This is the scariest question you could ask imo(the OP one, not the pixies), I've often thought about it but nothing I've seeb has ever given me cause to think there is anything after death (which I've seen alot).

Oddly, I've seen things that I can't explain that could be "ghosts" but nothing about those experiences has ever linked to anything I've ever felt when someone dies.

New_Departure06

I just am not sure on this. Can't say for certain that any experience I had was paranormal. I mentioned a potentially paranormal event in my house a while ago but I could have imagined it.

On balance I believe in spirits. But I am unsure whether they are just recordings produced by the earth's electromagnetic-field (supposedly this might help explain why they mostly appear at night) or conscious beings. I have considered trying a ouija-board to see if that could help answer my question but I am put off by warnings from people I know including one who claimed that a friend of hers used it and heard the voice of their deceased relative. Supposedly bad stuff happened afterwards which her friend did not want to go into.

My hairdresser says that the people she knows who tried it are largely in mental homes now. I already consider myself prone to bad luck e.g. failing driving tests based on one mistake, problems saving money, obesity, and the last thing I want to do is to make things even worse by demonic intervention. But I am extremely curious. I would try it if I could be sure it was safe. I mentioned a while ago advice offered to me by an Irish white-witch online on protection during a ouija, but I wonder would a really strong demon be able to defeat these measures?

The jury is out for me on what spirits are and consequently the question of an afterlife. My witch-friend claims there is an afterlife and that it is sortof very similar to planet earth, including towns etc. She claims that people who commit suicide end up in what she calls "a very dark place" (her words not mine okay). She believes in Satan and one god called Danú (the Irish Pagan god) but also asserts there are many demi-gods, including Lug.

If there is an afterlife I would like it perhaps to be like Earth except with immortality, and with the ability to perform supernatural abilities like flying, shape-shifting etc. I would also like everything to be free in the shops.

junkyard

I hope its sunny and happy and I get to meet all my dogs there.:D

Zillah

New_Departure06 wrote:

But I am unsure whether they are just recordings produced by the earth's electromagnetic-field (supposedly this might help explain why they mostly appear at night) or conscious beings.

What does the Earth's electromagnetic field have to do with nighttime?

My hairdresser says that the people she knows who tried it are largely in mental homes now.

I would strongly reccomend you not take advice on anything other than your hair from your hairdresser. I assure you, most people that have done ouija boards had a laugh and then forgot about it.

I already consider myself prone to bad luck e.g. failing driving tests based on one mistake, problems saving money, obesity, and the last thing I want to do is to make things even worse by demonic intervention.

How are any of those things bad luck? You made a mistake, you don't save money and you put on weight. They all seem pretty straight forward to me. Anyway, history suggests that the only side effects from Ouija boards are those you inflict on yourself. So if you have a level head and think you can approach things rationally, then you should be fine.

Vas_Guy

I would strongly reccomend you not take advice on anything other than your hair from your hairdresser. I assure you, most people that have done ouija boards had a laugh and then forgot about it.

I think the devil is too busy to make an appearance at every Ouija board gathering. However, make no mistake about it - if you play it, and something responds, it is more likely a demon, whose purpose is to gain entrance in your life through your own curiosity, in the hopes of being able to take over your body. Remember the Exorcist? It was based on a true exorcism in the Catholic church, except that it was a boy and not a girl, who became possessed because of playing the Ouija board. Some peopelcan use it with no ill effect but it is a Russian Roulette in any event.
The late Roman Catholic priest Malachi Martin believed talking boards are dangerous and claimed that by using these devices a person opens themselves to demonic oppression or possession, topics upon which Martin spoke and wrote extensively for many years.

Zillah wrote:

How are any of those things bad luck? You made a mistake, you don't save money and you put on weight. They all seem pretty straight forward to me. Anyway, history suggests that the only side effects from Ouija boards are those you inflict on yourself. So if you have a level head and think you can approach things rationally, then you should be fine.

I partly agree with this people sometimes blame events due to human nature on demons, etc.

Archeron

Vas_Guy wrote:

The late Roman Catholic priest Malachi Martin believed talking boards are dangerous and claimed that by using these devices a person opens themselves to demonic oppression or possession, topics upon which Martin spoke and wrote extensively for many years.
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Vas_Guy. When you say demons, do you think of these as actual physical creatures, and if so, do they occupy a place we could call Hell? Do you think these demons are actually living things, or simply a part of human nature that may occasionally take more control of a person than they should ordinarily have?

When I hear the word demons, I always think of the proverbial image of horns, red skin, forked tail etc. Is this how you picture them, or would you condiser them to be more of a non corporeal type of entity? With this in mind, would you consider there to be a ruler of these demons, for example, satan? If so, does this mean that you would say there is actually a place called Hell, as described in the more fire and brimstone elements of Christianity in which sinners can spend an eternity in torment?

Oryx

Zillah wrote:

I suspect complete oblivion. But that doesn't really scare me, no more than the oblivion there was before I was born.

Im reading a really good book now, 10 eternal questions, and one quote in it is that 'it is better to bet on something than on nothing'.

I believe in an afterlife. I dont think its a regular heaven or hell or anything we can really relate to. I think imagining towns and shops is simply a comfort thing for us while we are here, I dont think its what will be on that 'side' why should it, we will no longer have bodies... or eat McDonalds.;)

Seeing as the only thing we can take to our afterlife is our mental state, for me it is a place that is based on thoughts feelings and emotions. A place of love, bliss, unity would be what people would call heaven, and if you die with a very negative mental attitude you remain apart from this love and unity. Thats what I see as hell.

If we see ghosts or contact spirit, I think they come to us in a form that reflects what they were here, so that we can understand and relate. And maybe in the case of a troubled spirit they do this because they simply cannot let go of what they were in life.

For me the whole circle of living and dying and the afterlife is a journey where we learn lessons and experience the whole spectrum of what life and death have to offer. I hope this doesnt come across as disjointed, Ive never tried to put down whats in my head quite like this before.:o

6th

not disjointed at all, perfectly goes along with what i believe for most of it. I'll worry about it when i get there though

Vas_Guy

Archeron wrote:

Vas_Guy wrote:

The late Roman Catholic priest Malachi Martin believed talking boards are dangerous and claimed that by using these devices a person opens themselves to demonic oppression or possession, topics upon which Martin spoke and wrote extensively for many years.
QUOTE]

Vas_Guy. When you say demons, do you think of these as actual physical creatures, and if so, do they occupy a place we could call Hell? Do you think these demons are actually living things, or simply a part of human nature that may occasionally take more control of a person than they should ordinarily have?

When I hear the word demons, I always think of the proverbial image of horns, red skin, forked tail etc. Is this how you picture them, or would you condiser them to be more of a non corporeal type of entity? With this in mind, would you consider there to be a ruler of these demons, for example, satan? If so, does this mean that you would say there is actually a place called Hell, as described in the more fire and brimstone elements of Christianity in which sinners can spend an eternity in torment?

Thats what I exactly what I believe, Malacji Martin spent thirty years an Exorcist http://www.starharbor.com/fr_martin/index1.html