Help with a friends problem

Max_Nash

I've a friend of mine who is in a spot of bother.

Basically he graduated with a diploma only about 10 years ago for the past 2 years he was applying for jobs with a degree on his CV, yes he does not have a degree, he got a job and is doing very well in it can do the job no problem and is very highly reguarded in his position.

Now he wants to do a postgraduate degree yes without having a degree, I was just wondering is this possible, do the colleges require a copy of degree certs to be submitted with the application? Is there any college that does not look for degree certificates?

Now before you all start I've giving him an ear full and he feels bad enough about it, regardless of having a degree or not he's good at his job, and in fairness to him he did not apply for very senior jobs.

Basically I want to know what can he do now, I do not know how to help him?

Remember I'm not looking for self rightenous just help, and he says sorry id he insulted anybody with degrees.

Dudess

Well a qualification is a qualification and he still had to work hard for it. I think some colleges do make/some courses do offer exemptions for people who don't have degrees and want to apply for postgrad courses - once they're over 27 (I think) and have sufficient relevant work experience. That's all the info I can give. This isn't actually the correct forum for such a question. Work or Education would be more suitable. This thread will probably get moved by a moderator. Maybe then you'll get more indepth information.
Good luck to your mate.

dar83

A "friend" eh. Haha, I love these topics.

Well my thinking of it is "he's" kinda screwed for trying for a Post Grad, without actually having a degree in the first place. But ya never know with colleges these days, they may take an interview as "his" main case for being permitted or not.

Bubba

haha 'friend'....yeah yeah

Aard

This has already been locked in the Teaching Forum.

And your friend should stop lying.

Dudess

The diploma might be one to which a couple of years can be added - thus advancing it to degree status.

Max_Nash

Dudess wrote:

I think some colleges do make/some courses do offer exemptions for people who don't have degrees and want to apply for postgrad courses - once they're over 27 (I think) and have sufficient relevant work experience.

Does anybody know which colleges run courses like that?

Chinafoot

Well I've always been led to believe that a postgrad requires you to hold a degree before you can qualify for it. Why doesn't your "friend" see about continuing on his diploma in order to get his degree, and then worry about his postgrad.

I can't imagine too many decent colleges would be willing to give someone without a degree a place on a postgraduate course over someone who holds that degree. It could depend on the course and how many places are offered/applied for.

He may have lied his way into his job but the possibility of lying his way into a postgrad course are very, very slim.

Black Swan

If he wants a post grad degree that is worth anything, then he needs to meet the entry requirements. Of course, there are degree mills that don't care and will take your money.

Catney

he may be ok. You dont need a degree course for a postgrad, relevent work experience should do. Infact I am doing a MSc in an Irish university, and there is a guy that is doing it with me that left school after the leaving, as he has relevent work experience.

HOWEVER, he is flunking his brains out, lots of stuff is covered that I would have done in college, but in greater detail and he is lost.

Gone West

if he truely feels sorry about it, he must first give up the fruits of his lies....

Chinafoot

Catney wrote:

he may be ok. You dont need a degree course for a postgrad, relevent work experience should do. Infact I am doing a MSc in an Irish university, and there is a guy that is doing it with me that left school after the leaving, as he has relevent work experience.

Again this will vary depending on the course. There is no way a university can justify giving a place on a postgrad course to somebody without a degree over someone with the relevant degree.

If the course is undersubscribed then yes, it may happen.

Victor

Max_Nash wrote:

Basically he graduated with a diploma only about 10 years ago for the past 2 years he was applying for jobs with a degree on his CV, yes he does not have a degree, he got a job and is doing very well in it can do the job no problem and is very highly reguarded in his position.

As I understand it, National Diplomas can be converted to ordinary degrees, ie not honours degrees.