Weird..........has this happened to you

kshiel

Was on holidays recently and got very aware I had to give message to girl next to me. Did not really know the girl more a friend of a friend. But end up telling her all about conversation she had with her friend the night before and answered her biggest fear within that conversation. Kept seeing two faces beside her believe was her grandparents. She said I was spot on with details. Very freaked out by this but yet very interested in how it happened. Anyone else had a simlar experience?[:p

6th

Its funny because imagine if you got a message for someone you didnt know at all, no connection. We resently had aposter on here with that exact problem. Question is would you try to do anything about it?

On a similar note i recently got information about a friend of a poster just from seeing their name in an email, started of with bits but then more followed.

I know some would say that their is a responsibility to pass on these messages but what do people here think?

Nevyn

Yes it happens, sometimes with people I know other time with people I have just meet and sometimes with complete strangers.

6th

As a matter of interest Thaed, how do you deal with it? Do you feel its your duty to pass on the messages or do you pick and choose what you pass on?

btw are you gonna pop in the Oval so i can pick your brains on things like this?

Oryx

Ksheil, I know you are working on developing this at the moment, I hope you get on well with whatever you do, because you definitely seem to have a 'gift' to develop.:)

As for passing on messages, I think you have to judge the circumstances. If it was a complete stranger Id be very reluctant to approach them, you do look a bit mad doing that kind of thing, its really difficult. Id be the kind of person whod think twice about asking a stranger the time, let alone pass on spirit messages.:rolleyes: But if I knew them and felt comfortable about it, Id probably say something.

kshiel

Thanks Guys,

Was not expecting a response so soon. Truth is I have had weird stuff happen to me most of my life. Like I saw the crash my sisters boyfriend died in the night it happened. My husbands father I have seen walk around our home (he seems to like to turn things on and off sometimes). Faces would flash in front of me. With one particular time I was concentrating on nothing really just seeing what i could see in my minds eye and a monk handed me a piece of paper which read "we start knowledge with please" I had a feeling that he was telling me if I was going to go into their world to remember my manners. With this girl I felt I had no choice but to pass on message. I went to a Fair once and card reader told me I had a gift and should try and use it. She showed me how to open up as they say and contact my guide but until that day I did not know just how powerful this can be. Still kind of douthful as I still feel you must look at certain things with a logical point of view but this I have to say had no logic to it. She does seem to hide a little from me as I think she thinks I can read her mind (which I cannot) but after we met at a friends wedding I think she understood that I was really just as normal as she is in almost every other way.

I suppose ye all think I am probally a little bit nuts but to me I have always had an interest in this sort of thing and seeing what I suppose I have seen over the years it does not scare me. I feel If I do get a strong message for someone I would tell them as it wont leave till you do but I also feel you have a duty not to scare people. Most of any message really is, I hope is to give hope to people and let them know no matter what comes in life you have the tools to deal with it.

As a matter of interest how do you get into the oval. See quite new at this sort of chat.

tungsten

i had a very siimilar experience about 7 years ago in dublin. Was working as a waitress during college hols in temple bar. On a break at about 12 midnight or so i went to meeting house square and sat out and had a coffee by myself. It was quite busy at the time as you can imagine with foreigners and hens etc . I noticed 2 blokes sitting in front of me, chatting away, but now and again one of the blokes kept looking back in my direction, which i thought was peculiar at the time but really thought nothing more of it.Anyway, coffee finished i started to walk back to my place of work around the corner on eustace st. As i was just about to turn the corner i felt a tap on my shoulder, looked back, and it was the bloke from meeting house square. He put his hand out to shake mine, and insisted that he was not part of any religious cult or tryin to chat me up or anything silly like that. He said that he could see a woman standing over my right shoulder and described her...my grandmother. He said that she passed on a message that "everything was going to be okay". He turned and then walked away.

Now at the time there was nothing going on in my life, but there were issues regarding family that people were stressed about. I always felt that even though my grandmother died when i was 2 i always thought of her as a guardian angel...weird i know but thats the way i felt growing up.

its kind of reaffirming too, a belief that you live on after you die

6th

Fair play to the guy, I know i've backed down a couple of times from passing things on to strangers. Its not that i'm shy but i just thought it might be intimidating or scarey for a girl/woman to have a strange man walk up to them.

kshiel

It is hard to walk up to a stranger. I always found that if a message comes true most of the time the person that the message intended for always comes into the path of the messenger in one form or another. I have never had to give the message to a complete stranger but I think I would if it was strong enough. in the case of the girl above I had run into her three times the previous day each time we just passed and said hello. I had never had a full converstion with the girl or anything but for some reason to her she felt and I suppose so do I that the fact we ran into each other a couple of times first in a sort of god are you following me kinda way made it easier for her to accept that maybe this was meant to be.

To me messages are given to people and sometimes set up, to give the message to the other person more in a way that will not be uncomfortable to the other person giving or receiveing the message. They usually contain some sort of information that will relate to the person receiving the message instantly so it more or less for want of a better word stuns the person long enough to hear it.

I could be completly wrong on this of course but thats my view.

Lorri_L

For people that have this gift, is it not hard to walk away from someone when you know you have a message for this person?

I ask because my mother met a woman in the pub (absolute stranger) who told her so many details it was amazing, everything from a dream to my cousins suicide and more.

But this woman also explained, when questioned, that when she had a message for someone she has to tell them or it plagues her so I'm simply curious.

6th

Well for me it doesnt happen very often but i find it easy enough to switch it off (i wish it was as easy to switch on!) but its my decission to do what i choose with any information, and ultimately I'm sure its me that will pay the price for my own action or inaction.

I'm sure with more confidence and experience I will be able to approach people more but we all have a choice in everything we do.

Noopti

No disprespect to anyone here. But almost anybody can tell someone a generic message like "she says it will be ok" and the person will apply it to any minor or major worries in their life, of which we all have at least one.

Sorry to be a doubter, but I am very wary of people who claim to have messages from loved ones in the afterlife. People are very willing to accept almost anything someone says regarding loved ones who have passed on, and very few will remember the false messages, only the ones that seem to be true or relevent.

I am sure there are genuine people out there receiving messages, whether that be actual contact from a passed on loved one, or if the person is unwittingly psychically reading the person in question and associating those memories and feelings with actual spirit communication. However, like I said, I would take a very skeptical view on such people unless they provided concrete, undeniable proof of their gift.

kshiel

I can understand someone not believing a message given to them. I also feel it is right to question it. I dont think most messages received are or have a major whow facture just plain and simple as most of life is. Hang on or it will be ok or look under the box in the bedroom kinda of thing.

I am only learning this side of life so to speak and question it a lot myself most of the time but I do feel for me to much questions can lead to you putting your own two sence into it and taking away what is just plain and simple and just there. I dont know if that make sense but it is sort of like taking a childs point of view, sometimes they see just what they see.

Nevyn

6th wrote:

As a matter of interest Thaed, how do you deal with it? Do you feel its your duty to pass on the messages or do you pick and choose what you pass on?

btw are you gonna pop in the Oval so i can pick your brains on things like this?

You are not picking or pickling my brains ever :P

It can depend on what the message is and where the info is coming from.

6th

hmmmm, pickling your brains? .... am sure there could be use in preserving it for future study.

Can i ask what you mean by "where the info is coming from"?

Shinners23

6th, many people believe that if you receive a message you should only pass if on if you are approached by that person. But I have to say if one receives a message it should be passed on no questions asked. John Edwards is a great medium and he follows this belief.

6th

I'm sure it comes more with experience and confidence but we presume that the spirits know best, without knowing the nature of what we are dealing with is that right?

Shinners23

Yes thats exactly it 6th, the spirits do know best - our loved ones are there to guide us

6th

Shinners23 wrote:

Yes thats exactly it 6th, the spirits do know best - our loved ones are there to guide us

I'd tend to agree but even with the best of intentions can they not get it wrong? Lets just say Uncle Johnny, not the sharpest or most tackful guy in this life, passes over - does he suddenly become wise and a source of infinate wisdom?

Like i said i would tend to trust spirits but how do we know they are who they say they are? look at ouija boards for example. I just think people should be causcious, dealing with spirits hold the same dangers as dealing with people on the internet.

Obviously this differs if you "know" the spirit.

Shinners23

That is a good point 6th but I would like to receive the message and then judge from myself whether its true/accurate or not.

6th

Thats my point, we should be cautious and not just presume all messages should be passed on.

Highly unlikely but heres an example:

Spirit: Hey 6th, tell that woman sitting over there that Eddie still watches over her

6th: Ok, anything you say boss (walks over to woman).

6th: Excuse me, you dont know me but i was just given a message from someone who passed over.

Woman: (looks confused) ... ok?

6th: Eddie told me to tell you that he still looks over you ...

Woman: (breaks down crying) ... you sick bastard, eddie was the name of a guy that raped me and made my life hell with constant stalking and phone calls. He went off and hung himself leaving a note that he would always watch me.

Now like i said thats extreme, but its just to make a point. Hopefully people get what i mean and dont just think i'm a prick.

Shinners23

Wow - yes totally get your point.

6th

I feel tainted for even typing that .. and i post on the Thunderdome!

nudge

Hi 6th
As you have met me in person, wondering if you saw anything around me besides a big woolly jumper!! or a stalker for that matter.

solas

good point 6th. I dare say though that kind of energy wouldn't be the nicest to have around and in my own experience doesn't make you feel any way loved, just very angry and tense, thats where protection comes in handy.

There's a few instances come to mind, I had a friend who died in a car accident when she was 14 and in recent years she was on my mind a lot and on occasion when I met her mother I would be overcome with the urge to hug her, would feel so much love around her and knowing it was the love between her and her daughter's spirit I felt so strongly. I'm also aware that they are Jehova's witness and the nature of spiritualism is not something that would be considered lightly, so I hold my tongue and just hug her.

Also have friends over from the states at the moment and am aware of some losses yet I can't really say a thing. Usually when I'm around someone where I feel spirit present I just have the urge to bear hug them and tbh that seems enough most of the time.

kshiel

Well as the say There is Bi*ches in life there are Bi*ches in death. Everyone should be carefull with messages be it the living or the dead. And I guess people should listen to the message in its context and deceide whether or not they feel they should pass it on or not. Free will and all.

I like to believe though that there is more good than bad on that side.

solas

actually going back to the "rape" energy, once you recognise how it feels (makes you feel raped actually) you learn to spot it really quickly. I remember a time where there was a woman who was hanging out in a chat room and was discussing some stuff about the nature of spirit and some folks started on at her, giving her hassle for her opinions and the energy got really intense like you could cut it with a knife. I just sat there and watched knowing it was spirit, the energy of which was being conveyed amongst a bunch of mediums..all of whom were so caught up in the energy that none of them could objectively stand back and recognise what was going on.
I said what I saw though lol, not that any of them agreed but my instincts were correct.

Shinners23

It must be such a wonderful gift to have. Is it true that anyone can receive messages its just a matter of tuning in. I have been told I'm very psychic and that I should attend some workshops on developing it.

solas

well..speaking for myself I'm just fairly empathic, which can seem like anything but a gift at times although as soon as I began to acknowledge it I learned (and am still learning) to have some level of control over how much I pick up and learn how to let go and how to see it as a positive thing and as a process of personal development.
I would recommend some meditation cd's and classes that can help promote persoanl development in a positive way. that help?

[edit]6th has started a development circle over in spirituality forum that you might be interested in shinners.

Shinners23

Thanks a mil for that Solas - would defo be interested in that. I lost my best friend through tragic circumstances last year and I can feel his presence all the time. Its a lovely thing

6th

Shinners23 wrote:

Thanks a mil for that Solas - would defo be interested in that. I lost my best friend through tragic circumstances last year and I can feel his presence all the time. Its a lovely thing

Start off by talking to him, ok you most likely wont get a response as such but its nice to just sit in the quiet and talk to people who've passed.

As for the Development Circle that Stevenmu, ODonnell & myself are starting, you really should look at coming along - and this sundays drinks would be a good start

6th

nudge wrote:

Hi 6th
As you have met me in person, wondering if you saw anything around me besides a big woolly jumper!! or a stalker for that matter.

Actually I got the faint impression of a older man with BIG hands, real workers hands, not a very expressive man but had a glint in his eye.

nudge

Thanks 6th, appreciate that.
For the benefit of others, maybe should explain what this could be.
It could be either of my two grandfathers which would both fit exactly. Didn't really know either to be honest. One died young, the other died a few years ago. Both were hard workers, could explain the hands. One was in the navy, the other a farmer. Both always had 'worked' hands. One was very violent, (the man who died a few years ago) hence I was estranged from him but was uber intelligent and used this intelligence to try to outwit people, could this be the glint? And as you would expect, this person was not big on emotion, saw it as a weakness. He died without me really knowing him. Well thats me putting myself out on a limb and goes with your original comment of the presence not always being a good one but honestly, thanks a million.

6th

No this guy was a nice guy, when i say not emotional i meant that he did go about expressing himself but loved in his own way. I'd go as far to say definately wasnt the intelligent one. I just got the feeling this man is around you alot and stands behind you with his big hands on your shoulders while you work, and i even think you might be aware of the pressence at times. Of course i'm just an amateur and dont really know what i'm doing

nudge

Thanks, most likely grandfather number 2 so (relief I must say), can't think of anyone else! Might check out the big hand thing, very interesting.

6th

I'd love to be in a position to get more information but am in no rush to develope myself quickly. I am amazed when i hear of people giving such detailed accounts and discriptions.

nudge

Yeah, it is pretty interesting alright. I saw the program on the indigo children the other night. Interesting too.

6th

nudge wrote:

I saw the program on the indigo children the other night. Interesting too.

Theres a thrad on it here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054973010

Jotter

My dad had a lady come up to him before and give him advice on something (hes never told us what but it had to do with an argument hed had with my mother!) he said she was a bit freaky but accurate and he didnt mind getting the message but she kept going on and he said he kinda wanted her to go away esp as he was working at the time!
My sis was in pub one night and out of the blue knew the name of a guy standing beside her at bar. She didnt know how but she asked him out of curiosity and she got it right. She then proceeded to name the entire group he was with and when one of the girls got smart and said her name was not x it was y my sis was able to say with confidence that it was in fact x and gave her other details to back it up! She doesnt claim to be psychic and has no idea where the info came from, she said she just knew and thought it was great craic!
Ive had a few funny things happen as a kid but the most vivid was dreaming about someone dying and although I was on hols at the time I felt the urge to call bec I knew it was true and sure enough it had happened the night before.
I watched a bit on indigo kids but turned it off bec I thought it was over the top and the parents seemed to be wanting their kids to be indgo children in the same way parents want their kids to be beauty queens - Im sure the kids have abilities but id be of the opinion that all kids do, the people in that group were too airy fairy for me!