S/E lastnight: Comments/Critiscism appreciated

modmuffin · 23-06-2006 12:19pm #1

Played the DC last night. Just wondering what people thought of these two hands that led to my downfall

Blinds are 200-400 soon to go up.
Average stack is ~7000.
I have 3200

Hand 1:
Im BB (400)
Folded around to the shortstack who moves all in for 825
SB fold.
I look down at 89s. Its costing me 425 into a pot of 1425.
Shorty's range is very wide here. so i call.

Q: Is this a very bad call considering i only have 2400 left behind?

Hand 2:
A few minute later. I now have 2200.
Loose player utg makes it 1000. He has about 8000. his range here is ridiculously wide. any suited Queen or better judging from recent hands!!

A player in MP moves all in for 3800. this palyer has only arrived but has been involved in a few pots & seems decent (possibly a boardster?)
I get the feeling this player knows the original raiser & may well be stealing this with a semi-decent hand. he is also shortstacked & has moved all in twice on this level.

I look down at 1010. now normally this is an instant fold to a raise and reraise. but with my stack size & the possibility that the reraiser is making a move. i go all-in.

UTG folds. (turns out he had A8o, if they were suited he would have called!!)
Mp player has KK and im gone....

Any comments??

Cheers

Ste05 · 23-06-2006 12:23pm

Hand 1: is an autocall with basically any 2, 89s is great here TBH.

Hand 2: Another call based on the reads given, you're getting lovely odds, and more often than not here the re-raiser will have over cards...

ianmc38 · 23-06-2006 12:24pm

Hand 1 is an instant call.

Hand 2 is more marginal. With a raise and reraise from a decent player, I'd lean towards a fold. At best you're racing here.

5starpool · 23-06-2006 12:31pm

As said, hand 1 is a must call.

Hand 2 is a call for me also given what you know/picked up about the players. Well stacked though this may well be a fold, but very shortstacked I call as you are getting nearly 2:1 even if UTG folds, and these odds are good enough against a player you think may have a wider than normal range.

Goodluck2me · 23-06-2006 12:53pm

Hand 1: call id right enough, your a favourite against any pair under 6.
Hand 2: if MP player is good, he might have noticed that EP is loose and when he is shortstacked he could maybe steal the 1600 in the pot about 30% of his stack, so his range is quite wide. marginal but correct call

ollyk1 · 23-06-2006 1:07pm

Hand 1: Call. Really focus on flopping a straight with a str flush redraw.

Hand 2: If the other guy is a good player and knows the utg player that increases the chances of an AK/AQ/even AJ type hand here because he might feel he's quite possibly dominating the utg player who probably would have called if you hadn't (no matter what he said). Therefore I call hoping to see an underpair or Ax a large enough percentage of the time (or to see a ten high flop!).

There is plenty of extra chips as well to make this an extra juicy call.

Hitman Actual · 23-06-2006 1:07pm

Hand 1:Autocall
Hand 2: MP is short, so his range probably includes 88, 99, AK, AQ (maybe even AJ) as well as overpairs, so it's a call for me. Even if you think UTG will call after, it's still a call by you.