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Generic cash game question

  • 23-06-2006 5:55am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 105 ✭✭


    I am relatively new to hold'em as I mainly concentrate on PLO.
    I have just discovered the joys of 6-max NLH.

    According to pokertracker I am tight-aggressive (yay!).

    Situation 1) playin' 2/5
    You have A8s UTG+1, folded to you, Raise to 15 (I always Raise the same 3x BB) called in 2 places.
    Flop AA7.
    Do you bet?
    I ALWAYS bet when I have Raised pre, so I can't exactly check it can I?
    I just bet 2/3 pot and hope someone has something.
    90% of the time they seem to fold....should I check here?
    I am talking OOP....

    Situation 2)
    You get 9Tclubs on the button.
    folded to cut off who Raises to 25.
    I call (mainly because I only ever call Raises with pos, and it's playable)
    Everyone else folds.
    Flop 784 two clubs, he bets full pot £55, and I re-raise allin. (£220).
    Only because I don't have enough to call and then RR on the turn, so I am looking for folding equity NOW.
    Is this standard?


    Situation 3)
    You have raised pre OOP, with one caller, flop immaterial, do you always bet regardless?
    I tend to, but back of if i get played with (and I missed of course!)

    Situation 4)
    Do you raise on the button purely to steal blinds?
    Is this +EV for a cash game? Surely it's just better to ONLY raise with the top 25%, say? I can't seem to get out of tournament mode, and find myself attacking the blinds all the time, with any 'playable' holding.

    Situation 5)
    £450 stacks for everyone.
    One limper,folded to you on the button, you raise with 55 (to 3x BB, remember!)
    BB and limper call.
    flop 53Q with a flush draw.
    BB check, limper bets £25 into a £50 pot.
    You call, BB folds.
    Turn is a blank 2, limper checks.
    I move in.
    ?
    Comments?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    my answers:
    1. I bet here most of the time. If someone has something, though, you are probably behind.

    2. Possibly you are too shallow to play this hand profitably preflop unless your opponents are bad. Push flop definitely.

    3. No.

    4. Yes, I raise with more than the top 25% of hands, no, not any 2 against any opponents.

    5. I would usually raise the flop. If I just called I would bet less on the turn, say £90.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭robinlacey


    situation one you should probably just bet,hopefully someone will think you wouldn't bet with an A and you might get called by a PP
    if you do get called,tread cautiously though-obviously given that three of them are accounted for your opponents are less likely to have an A,but once you get a call on this flop it might be best to just check call after that,as you're either miles ahead or miles behind...

    in the second one calling here isn't unheard of,but its certainly quite loose-in general i think you need a reason to call here-ie the raiser is a weak player who either a/folds to much on the flop or b/ will commit his stack with top pair or bluff it off,so basically you want to be certain that either you can take it down on the flop a lot of the time or that you're getting good implied odds if you're playing the hand for its value...
    in the specific situation you mentioned you shouldn't have called,since you didnt have a full buyin-you need at least 100 bb stacks to make it worth your while,and even that's pushing it,i'd like to have deepish stacks and a bad opponent to bother calling here,against an unknown with less than 100bbs you're just wasting chips...also,you said you pushed because you didnt have enough to call and then raise the turn-in fact the reason to raise the flop is that you have twice as much equity in the hand on the flop as on the turn,so you want to get the money in while you have more actual equity as well as fold equity...

    sitaution three,if you only get one caller i usually bet the flop,but it depends on the situation-you can't bet every single flop,so every so often you should just let one go,and if you're doing this you may as well do it when you're out of position...when you've been playing agressively for a while you will sometimes get a feel for when people are getting sick of you raising all the time,sometimes if you miss completely,its worth just letting one go to change the pace for a while...on the other hand,sometimes a tightish player will call a c-bet and you knew they were going to call regardless cause they've folded to your last ten c-bets-if this is the case,sometimes you'll get the feeling that they're only calling in the hopes that you slow down the turn,and this can be a good time to fire a second barrel,although usually you'd prefer to have position...

    i usen't to raise at all just to steal the blinds,which i think was a mistake...don't overdo it,but if there are tight opponents in the blinds no harm keeping the pressure up if you've some sort of hand.

    the last one,you need a good hand here,i think a lot of the time you're missing out on value on both the flop and the turn here...on the flop,i know you can be reluctant to raise your set,as you don't really want him to fold,but at the same time you need to get some money in somehow...of course maybe you've been raising a lot and he's just betting out in the hopes you'll give up (you can't have a hand every time!) in which case he'd fold straight away,so its tricky,but its usually best to make even a small raise...if you haven't been raising the flops a lot this could be a problem,but you need to build a pot somewhere-also with two opponents and a flush draw out there you need to charge them for it,plus your raise might be interpreted as a flush draw,so you might be able to get money in the pot from QK type hands,especially if situation two was at the same table...
    as played,on the turn i think you'd need a good read to hope he'll call here,otherwise you're just wasting a good hand...have you pushed the turn for more than the pot before?against this opponent?unless his small flop bet screams strenght from the way he's been playing up till now,i dunno,it seems like he'll probably just fold...

    in all the above situations you can't really give too generic an answer,you really should have reads on the players,some idea of what they think of you,and be thinking about how the last 20 minutes has played out,all these are important and should be considered rather than just looking for generic answers to each situation...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭robinlacey


    lol,while i was typing all that roundtower managed to same the same thing using about 1% of the words..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    1. I would bet very often oop. I might check sometimes in position.

    2. You should fold pf, because you are so shallow. Postflop is perfect

    3. I bet a lot, but not 100%. Board and opponent and stacks and hand all come into play

    4. Yeah I raise the button with less than stellar hands, but not just to steal the blinds. Stealing the blinds 1st, then playing a raised pot in position 2nd.

    5. I raise the flop, and then I shove the turn. Make it 125 on the flop seems like a good plan to me. Shoving the blank turn lets him get away from his fd too easy. (or his weak top pair)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 195 ✭✭malinh


    i know its off topic, but im just wonderin bout pokertracker. how can i get it and how much??


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