Switching subjects

Bartronilic

Tell me now can I change subjects in the first two weeks of 2nd year bess namely law to economics of public policy? thanks!

europerson

Yes, you'll have no problem doing that. Just make sure to inform the BESS Office.

Moorsy

Bartronilic wrote:

Tell me now

Please don't hurt us!!!! Ha only messing!

Yeh me thinks you can change it right now. Im guessin u wanna get a taste of the module for a week and a bit yeh?

Bartronilic

Gonna go to both i think first week. just today my sister's friend told me stuff about both subjects which make me want to change!!!

Black_Couch

like what? THink i'm changing non profit to Law.

Bartronilic

law is a sixth subject and as a sixth subject it takes alot of time away from your time studying other subjects. it is awkward on the timetable and makes schols harder if you're doing them. and public policy sounds interesting, all the stuff you learn on it you can use as examples in other economics subjects and it's way easier than law.

BrenC

Hey, Rather than make a new thread,

does anyone have that link for the tcd site where it shows the dates for each department?

thanks

gilroyb

Law is a late course alright, because the lecturer spends their days in court. I'm not sure that it's as much of a drain on schol as you're making it out to be. Firsts are possible in law, whereas I'm not so sure it's all that likely in Public Policy. I'd try both courses and just go with whichever one you prefer based on the actual content.

Right_Side

Hated Law at the start (due to not knowing what to study) then loved it. Nice break from business and economics.

Black_Couch

Right_Side wrote:

Hated Law at the start (due to not knowing what to study) then loved it. Nice break from business and economics.

what i'm thinking too. Yeah its a late slot. But are the lectures really important or are the notes online?

Right_Side

Black_Couch wrote:

what i'm thinking too. Yeah its a late slot. But are the lectures really important or are the notes online?

It's a policy of the law school not to put notes online or give handouts with notes, they only give reading lists.

So basically law is: lecturer reads a sentence you take it down. Usually get up to 10 pages a lecture. But it is really quite interesting stuff.

Right_Side

Of course you could just get a friend to write it down one week and you the next and photocopy. It sticks in your head going to the lectures though.

Thirdfox

10 pages??? That's quite a lot of note-taking! I usually end up with 4 pages (max) after my lectures.

What lecturers do the BESS people have (in the law module)?

You are right about the no-notes policy (just find a friend who has all the notes on the laptop, a quick e-mail and you're grand - unfortunately I'm the guy with the laptop in my class )

gilroyb

In 2nd year we have an introduction to law module, which in my day included sections on EU law, Court structure (jurisdiction, etc.), and planning law and procedure. I think the content has changed since my time though.

If one takes that 2nd year introduction you can take the full law courses of international law with Dr. Biehler or company law with whoever it is that teaches that. There is another course in 4th year you can take that is a joint option between the economics department and the law school. Think it's something about "economic and legal aspects of competition". Other than the 2nd year course all are taken with law students.

EDIT: Just realised I answered a totally different question to the one you asked, thought you said lectures rather than lecturers. Damn dyslexia. Last year the lecturers were Ms. Brazil and Ms. Brown. My year (2003/2004) was Graine Mullens and Jarleth (something). They seem to change regularly enough as the lecturers are usually there for a nixer as they begin to practice.

Black_Couch

Same with Irish Sociology. There were no notes for that.

And as for the notes on Global Sociology........ they had more pictures than words in them! Yeah i know few people who did Law last year so might just try and photocopy their stuff.

Right_Side

Thirdfox wrote:

10 pages??? That's quite a lot of note-taking! I usually end up with 4 pages (max) after my lectures.

It's a two hour lecture so hence about double the notes.

Andrew 83

I didn't do the course but as was said earlier it's basically done as a nixer by people who aren't members of the Law school and just teach it to first year SocSocPol and 2nd year BESS, it has a high fail rate and a lot of poeple don't seem to like it.

Right_Side

Andrew 83 wrote:

it has a high fail rate and a lot of poeple don't seem to like it.

You are probably referring to the situation prior to the year 2004/2005 before the new lecturers took over and radically changed the course. I did hear prior to this change it was a difficult course.

Right_Side

Andrew 83 wrote:

it's basically done as a nixer by people who aren't members of the Law school and just teach it to first year SocSocPol and 2nd year BESS,

Also incorrect:

Patricia Brazil, LL.B., M.Litt, Barrister-at-Law
Subjects: Family Law, Criminal Law and Introduction to Law

Andrew 83

Sorry didn't realise they'd changed it up