Smoking at Concerts

Sizzler

I was at the eagles last night in Lansdowne Rd and had paid 90 yo yo's for the privilege of being shrouded in smoke all around me practically for the whole gig :mad:

Dont mind people having the right to smoke, go for it people but I do object to being subjected to it for an entire concert !

Should there not be a non-smoking section for such events and the cancer heads can smoke their head off without annoying people who dont want to be in that environment? It wasnt as if I had a choice to move last night but I guess we were just unlucky to be seated where we were, luck of the draw eh !

What do ppl think?

Terry

get over oyurself. just move to a different seat if it bugs you so much.

you have every indoor place in the country. you are not getting the outdoor venues too.

people smoke. deal with it and move on.

Giblet

get over oyurself. just move to a different seat if it bugs you so much.

Read the thread.

People who smoke in the pit are idiots. The amount of times I had to try dodge a burning cigarette. GRRRRRR NO-ONE CAN MOVE STOP WAVING THAT **** AROUND!

Sizzler

julep wrote:

get over oyurself. just move to a different seat if it bugs you so much.

you have every indoor place in the country. you are not getting the outdoor venues too.

people smoke. deal with it and move on.

AMB. What part of I couldnt change seat dont you understand? Havent you ever heard of designated seats at concerts.

Terry

Sizzler wrote:

I was at the eagles last night in Lansdowne Rd and had paid 90 yo yo's for the privilege of being shrouded in smoke all around me practically for the whole gig :mad:

Dont mind people having the right to smoke, go for it people but I do object to being subjected to it for an entire concert !

Should there not be a non-smoking section for such events and the cancer heads can smoke their head off without annoying people who dont want to be in that environment? It wasnt as if I had a choice to move last night but I guess we were just unlucky where we were, luck of the draw eh !

What do ppl think?

i don't see the word "seat" mentioned anywhere in that post.

if you were standing, then stand next to people who are not smoking.

i'm going to the pub now. i hope nobody get drunk and i hope there are no cars on the road either, or people on the footpath, or clouds in the sky, or green grass or leaves on trees.

Sizzler

julep wrote:

i don't see the word "seat" mentioned anywhere in that post.

if you were standing, then stand next to people who are not smoking.

i'm going to the pub now. i hope nobody get drunk and i hope there are no cars on the road either, or people on the footpath, or clouds in the sky, or green grass or leaves on trees.

Obviously not the sharpest then. If I was standing I would have walked away wouldnt I? FFS

Terry

well, if it bugged you so much, why didn't you stand?

Karoma

julep wrote:

well, if it bugged you so much, why didn't you stand?

most.inane.arguement.everrrrrr.

If it bugs smokers to go without a smoke for so long,why got to a concert?

quickbeam

Sizzler wrote:

What do ppl think?

Totally agree. I was there too and lucky enough not to be next to smokers, but I know it would have pissed me off if I had.

And to anybody who doesn't know the set up - at seated concerts you have to stay in your seat. You can stand up, but you can't leave your general seat area (you can get up and go to the bar, but then you're missing the concert), You can't just move to another part of the stadium any time you wish. In fact the stewards were quite strict on us staying in our seats up until the last twenty minutes or so.

Great concert though. Sizzler - hope it didn't totally spoil it for you.

God hate the attitude that it was YOUR problem. It is NOT right to expect people to breathe in smoke in an enclosed space (and it IS enclosed if it
s packed with people) where you can't get away. The selfishness of some people. Why can't the smokers ever move or go outside? If you can't go without a smoke for 2 hours don't bloody go to concerts and inflict your filthy habit on everyone else. It's bad enough when people do it at the bus stop. Just because its outside doesn't mean its not still bothering people. Breathing in someone's smoke at the bus stop set off my allergies for the rest of the day, runny nose, watering eyes etc.

biko

julep wrote:

you have every indoor place in the country. you are not getting the outdoor venues too.

QFT

Demetrius

Technically its the workplace. I wonder will Metallica throw a hissy fit tonight if they see tiny little glows coming from the audience? Poor little Ulrich and his poor little lungs!

BMH

All he asked for was a non-smoking area. Stop trying to force your retarded decisions on everyone else.

KdjaCL

Karoma wrote:

most.inane.arguement.everrrrrr.

If it bugs smokers to go without a smoke for so long,why got to a concert?

Its outdoor, the law says you cant smoke indoors. Bummer for people who dont smoke tbh.


kdjac

Oriel

Ignore julep, from the evidence from his previous post, he doesn't appear to be the sharpest tool in the box.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

I don't think smokers should be required to smoke outside by non-smokers, as a smoker I'd be more inclined to blow smoke in someone's face if they made an issue about it (in a manner that annoyed me). But if I notice that people around me are being bothered by the smoke I'll move, and I do understand where these people are coming from.. I just don't agree that they have the right to tell me how to act.

They can rely on my niceness and I will make an effort not to smoke in areas where I know people will be very bothered by it but.. If I want to smoke, I'll smoke and I won't be that bothered by what people around me are thinking. I'm sure I could find plenty about them to get worked up and annoyed about too if I was so inclined.

muckwarrior

I wish someone would invent an aerasol oderant. Kinda like a deoderant except it would spray some obnoxious smell. Then when some ignorant fυcker lights up near you, you could spray it in their direction!

BMH

Yeah, that or a gun.

RobertFoster

muckwarrior wrote:

I wish someone would invent an aerasol oderant. Kinda like a deoderant except it would spray some obnoxious smell. Then when some ignorant fυcker lights up near you, you could spray it in their direction!

And ask to borrow their lighter...

is_that_so

You can't have it every way. Unless you are just making a point of being offended. Personally find the p1s$heads who show up at gigs more offensive than smokers.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

I wish someone would invent cancer from second hand smoke so we could get rid of all these annoying anti-smokers

Terry

Leonard Fierce Rumba wrote:

God hate the attitude that it was YOUR problem. It is NOT right to expect people to breathe in smoke in an enclosed space (and it IS enclosed if it
s packed with people) where you can't get away. The selfishness of some people. Why can't the smokers ever move or go outside? If you can't go without a smoke for 2 hours don't bloody go to concerts and inflict your filthy habit on everyone else. It's bad enough when people do it at the bus stop. Just because its outside doesn't mean its not still bothering people. Breathing in someone's smoke at the bus stop set off my allergies for the rest of the day, runny nose, watering eyes etc.

aww. poor you.
of course, the carbon monoxide from the car exhausts would have nothing to do with your allergies being set off.

Karoma wrote:

most.inane.arguement.everrrrrr.

If it bugs smokers to go without a smoke for so long,why got to a concert?

to piss the non-smokers off. you do know that the only reason people smoke is to piss off those who don't smoke, don't you?
until the government completely outlaw tobacco, people are going to smoke and it is something you are going to have to deal with. like it or not.
no amount of bitching and moaning here is going to change that.
next time you're going to a concert, give me a shout. i want to stand (or sit) there for 2 hours and whine in your ear about the state of the health service in this country.

nesf

Eh, I'd smoke at a concert. I wouldn't smoke in the pit though. That's just asking for trouble tbh.

ferdi

you were in a rock concert, not an operating theatre. get over it.

Terry

nesf wrote:

Eh, I'd smoke at a concert. I wouldn't smoke in the pit though. That's just asking for trouble tbh.

not to mention awkward. trying to keep it away from others and all that, while people are bumping into you.

ferdi wrote:

you were in a rock concert, not an operating theatre. get over it.

exactly.

also, are you non-smokers new to this planet?
people have been smoking your entire lives. they are not going to stop just because the eagles are playing.

BMH

julep wrote:

no amount of bitching and moaning here is going to change that.
next time you're going to a concert, give me a shout. i want to stand (or sit) there for 2 hours and whine in your ear about the state of the health service in this country.

The state of the health service?
Maybe it's because you and your band of muppets who thought you'd look cool are wasting hospital's money and time squeezing tar from your atereries and giving you lung transplants after you smoked away the first one.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

don't forget the drunk idiots.

zilog_jones

Most you non-smokers should quit yer bitchin'. I have asthma, so people smoking near me kinda inhibits my ability to breathe even moreso than usual. If I was in your situation Sizzler, and it bothered me *that much*, I would have just asked them politely to stop, but then again I have a rather more valid reason to do so. Plus I wouldn't be at an Eagles concert.

What's so great about smoking anyway? I'd see a point in smoking certain other susbstances, but tobacco just sounds boring.

ferdi

zilog_jones wrote:

What's so great about smoking anyway? I'd see a point in smoking certain other susbstances, but tobacco just sounds boring.

your right there ted. tobacco has its moments though.

Little Goose

zilog_jones wrote:

I would have just asked them politely to stop

In my experience that would result in anything from a laugh to the two finger salute or worse..

I do think there should be designated smoking sections. Either that or an "I want to breathe proper clean air" section at every concert.

six of one, and half a dozen of the other...

smokers, stop getting so uptight. it's your right to smoke but not your right to restrict others airways.

Calibos

Un-Effing believable!!! They get smoking banned in Pubs. Great! We don't have to listen to them moaning anymore.

But NO!

"EEW, I have to walk past people who are smoking Outside the Pub! .
"EEW, I have to be near people smoking at an Outdoor Concert"

Can I just say this to all the moaning non smokers......................

F**K OFF!!

The next thing they will be demanding is that we have to smoke indoors again....In f**king sealed bunkers!

Do you mind if I smoke in my own home, cause you never know, the smoke might drift out my windows and get sucked in my neighbours windows!

subway

it doesnt restrict your airways.
you just dont like the smell of it.
do you know how diffusuion works?

get over the fact that mammy wwouldnt let you out of the house till you were 18 so you never got the chance to be cool.

nesf

See on one hand there is courtesy involved, few reasonable smokers would smoke beside a baby for instance. That's simple manners. But there are anti-smoking nazis out there who would ask you to stop smoking in almost any instance. If I'm at an open air event, I will happily smoke and enjoy it. I don't see why I should not have to really, it's not an enclosed space and if it really bothers someone they can move.

If neither of us can move then we are at an impasse but at the end of the day smokers can smoke at open air events and people know this. By coming to one you are accepting that you might be beside a smoker. If it truly is a problem for you then you shouldn't really come in the first place rather than expect the world to change just to suit your preferences.

Similar to how the smoking ban's best (and imho only) justification is staff working in pubs and bars being exposed to smoke as part of their job, it is only where you do not have a choice of being there that you have a right to demand others to stop. If you are putting yourself there by choice then you forfeit that right essentially.

nesf

Calibos wrote:

Un-Effing believable!!! They get smoking banned in Pubs. Great! We don't have to listen to them moaning anymore.

But NO!

"EEW, I have to walk past people who are smoking Outside the Pub! .
"EEW, I have to be near people smoking at an Outdoor Concert"

Can I just say this to all the moaning non smokers......................

F**K OFF!!

The next thing they will be demanding is that we have to smoke indoors again....In f**king sealed bunkers!

Do you mind if I smoke in my own home, cause you never know, the smoke might drift out my windows and get sucked in my neighbours windows!

Try to be polite when posting here. What you just posted is unacceptable. Please watch your tone here. Thanks.

Little Goose

subway wrote:

it doesnt restrict your airways.

Ok, I'll give you that Sherlock but it's not just the fact that "You don't like the smell of it".. Smoking is bad for you. Passive smoking is worse. Look it up. I'm tired of the fact that smokers don't care a damn about non-smokers. Have a bit of consideration please.

And dude, whats the story about my mammy not letting me out til I was 18? (I think that was directed at me) Where are you getting that from? I think all that smoking is making you delerious!

Puff puff!

Faith

While I can see where the OP is coming from, and understand her complaint, it's taking things too far to complain about smoking outside.

Like others have said, non-smokers got their way with the smoking ban and I'm sure everyone is better for it. But it's still the right of smokers to smoke outside and it's extraordinarily irritating when people complain about it.

Be happy with the compromise you have.

It never ceases to amaze me how much people complain.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

Smoking is bad for you. Passive smoking is worse.

that doesn't even make sense. Just think about it for a second, please.

If smoking is bad for you (and I think we're all in agreement that it is, or at the very least is not good for you) then how in the HELL is passive smoking worse?

nesf

Little Goose wrote:

Smoking is bad for you. Passive smoking is worse. Look it up.

Look it up yourself. What you just said makes no sense. Being a smoker is far worse than just being exposed to smoke. It's pretty obvious really.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

what's funny is that she insultingly referred to someone else as 'sherlock' just before she said that.

that's a great gold coloured egg.

is_that_so

BBQs produce dioxins through their "smoke" but they smell nice. See here. As the article also points out a little "perspective" does not go amiss.

nesf

Mordeth wrote:

what's funny is that she insultingly referred to someone else as 'sherlock' just before she said that.

Well, it's either an masterful display of wit or, well, um.

zilog_jones

subway wrote:

it doesnt restrict your airways.

It does with mine! Going to pubs used to be complete agony for me before the ban - I used to either try and stay outside as much as possible or just end up going home early, and I'd feel kinda sick from the smoke for at least about 5 or 6 hours afterwards. The smoking ban wasn't just for the benefit of employees, you know...

you just dont like the smell of it.

Don't mind just the smell really. Unfortunately the lack of it in pubs now has led to the greater notice of how stinky some of them are...

get over the fact that mammy wwouldnt let you out of the house till you were 18 so you never got the chance to be cool.

I'd rather not be "cool" than have lungs like Shane MacGowan...

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

The smoking ban wasn't just for the benefit of employees, you know...

yes it was, if there was enough of a demand for smoke-free pubs from the general populace then bars all around the country would have banned cigarettes themselves without any prodding from the goverment.

nesf

zilog_jones wrote:

It does with mine! Going to pubs used to be complete agony for me before the ban - I used to either try and stay outside as much as possible or just end up going home early, and I'd feel kinda sick from the smoke for at least about 5 or 6 hours afterwards. The smoking ban wasn't just for the benefit of employees, you know..

The smoking ban is good for people who have bad reactions to smoke, no-one disagrees on that, but it's hard to justify it on that grounds. You chose to go into the pubs after all, no one forced you in there at gun point. But you did so with the knowledge it would affect you in a bad way, and that is the key difference with the staff point. They didn't have the option of not working in a smoke filled atmosphere in their job.

It's similar for me. I get very bad hayfever, so for me going to an open air concert in a park is an extremely bad idea in the summer months. But that isn't grounds for moving those concerts indoors simply to suit the minority of people with allergies. It's not like I'm forced to attend those concerts even though I might really want to see said band(s).

BMH

Good point.But still, hay-fever is a result of nature, smoking is a result of a poor decision made by someone else whihc is what makes it that more annoying.

All the OP was saying that there should be a certain area designated for non-smokers. Sounds fair enough. Can't see it even effecting smokers.Everyone wins?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

smoking is a result of a poor decision made by someone else whihc is what makes it that more annoying.

same can be siad for drunk people, or fat smelly people, or even people with bad hairstyles.

the hairstyles one is a bit of a stretch, but how manyu people can stand next to someone with a mullet and not feel just a little bit disturbed.

nesf

BMH wrote:

Good point.But still, hay-fever is a result of nature, smoking is a result of a poor decision made by someone else whihc is what makes it that more annoying.

All the OP was saying that there should be a certain area designated for non-smokers. Sounds fair enough. Can't see it even effecting smokers.Everyone wins?

Very true, but I was just trying to make the point of consent clearer. As for the non-smoking areas, they can be a good idea but be hard to implement well. Put them in a premium position, like up the front, and it's unfair to smokers. Put them way back and it's unfair to non-smokers. And lets face it, few things are implemented well in this country tbh.

subway

the thread is about concerts, open air concerts, not pubs.
how can my one exhalation into an atmosphere infinitley larger than my lungs cause so much discomfort to you?

as i breathe out the *tiny* amount of carcinogens in my exhalation are diffused evenly in all directions.
by the time it reaches someone a yard away it is nothing but a bad smell.

the connotations of danger are all in your mind.

http://www.antibrains.com/shs.html
the figures in the table at the bottom are for indoors,
the figures where you take the volume of air around the earth into account as the representative area are insanely small

Sam Vimes

julep wrote:

well, if it bugged you so much, why didn't you stand?

whenever i go to a concert, i like to drop a stink bomb every few minutes. its perfectly legal and if you don't like it get over yourself

Sam Vimes

Smoking is bad for you. Passive smoking is worse.

that's not true. that's just silly

subway

Commander Vimes wrote:

whenever i go to a concert, i like to drop a stink bomb every few minutes. its perfectly legal and if you don't like it get over yourself

no you dont.
no need to act tough on the internet.