once and for all

doonothing

i did the higher level oral. i was under the impression you could still drop to pass afterwards. according to my principal (i found this out yesterday after english) that i in fact CANT drop to pass. i had to take the higher paper today, did ok i spose. my oral and aural went ok. im utterly screwed for tomorrow and i might fail irish bla bla.

point being: if i fail irish do i fail my leaving cert? will i have to repeat?
do you not need to pass irish english and maths to pass your leaving cert?
how necessary is it for college to pass irish?

yes im an idiot leaving all this to the last minute etc etc.

anyone know?

fearcruach

Off the point but there is no Higher or Ordinary Oral. Its the same for both levels. Your principal is talking crap. Not terribly helpful. Sorry.

Ballina boy

As far as i know it dosent matter if you fail irish..Maths is the only one that matters.

doonothing

pleeeease let that be true! i know, my principal is a tward, the examiner doesnt know if youre doin a pass or honours oral!!!!!!!

*wits end*

thanks much

NADA

Your principal is a chauvinist twat! You can drop down to ordinary level at the start of everypaper. All you have to say is Ordinary when the guy is handing out the stickers.

lasair

you canm drop to pass whenever you want all you gotta do is say to the examiner i want the pass paper

Raphael

And the question papers..... xp I'd say it's too late now, if the OP's already done the Higher paper 1.

And for college, it depends where you go. if you go to UCD, you need English Irish and a third language, Trinity is english maths and a foreign language(which includes irish). Not sure about any others.

porn_star

what crap. I did my german oral as a higher level student last year and I dropped down to pass before the exam.
But either way, good luck with it now.
I'm not sure do you need it for all colleges, but a friend of mine is repeating with me after he failed irish and couldn't get into the college he wanted.

I was doing pass Irish the whole way through 6th year, told the Oral examiner i was doing honours so i'd get harder questions, did really well...

Still did pass papers though..

The Oral is a "common" exam, with the marks adjusted for level AFTER the papers.

porn_star

why would you want harder questions?

Because it is a common exam.

So the harder the questions, the more marks..

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Deleted User wrote:

Because it is a common exam.

So the harder the questions, the more marks..

Or the harder the questions the less well you answer them..

Your logic makes no sense here, easier questions=more marks

melekalikimaka

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Or the harder the questions the less well you answer them..

Your logic makes no sense here, easier questions=more marks

i agree

Not if you can handle the harder ones.

I mean going more advanced than "what you did last summer" etc

social topics

melekalikimaka

so your saying that if i'm asked

'what ya do last summer' and i answer it perfectly i'll get less marks than being asked ' whats your views on the new countries joining the eu' and answer that with perfect irish also?

don't be ridiculous it's irrelevent the examiner doesnt think 'oh hes doing pass, sure i cant give him over 70%'

where did you come up with this theory?

yes...

that's completely true.

as its a comon exam, both sets of students are marked out of the same mark..

So obviously an honours student will be doing better than a pass student.

i'm not explaining it right, but its true!

melekalikimaka

but they dont ask what level you do alot of the time, it defeats the pupose of it being a common exam then does it not?

porn_star

yeah, it does defeat the purpose.
like the examiner will have a pretty good idea from early on in the exam as to what level you are..
but they wont mark you higher just cos you were asked about politics or any of that crap, its all to do with how you answer them..

either way, im glad i gave up irish this year :P

Rockerette

my oral examiner asked me what higher level subjects i was doing, so basically she asked me straight out if i was higher level..
she did it with most people too

Rockerette

Rockerette wrote:

my oral examiner asked me what higher level subjects i was doing, so basically she asked me straight out if i was higher level..
she did it with most people too

yeah exactly, that's how i told her.

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Deleted User wrote:

yes...

that's completely true.

as its a comon exam, both sets of students are marked out of the same mark..

So obviously an honours student will be doing better than a pass student.

i'm not explaining it right, but its true!

only because they're better at irish....

and the examiner will ask you questions depending on how the conversations going, they dont just ask harder questions because your doing higher level....

madmazz89

i did dee very same as u..i sat dee higher level oral. but den i sat dee ordinary level paper on dee day nd it wz fine to change back. i hate to say dis to you but ur principal wz wrong! but dnt wory u were prob betta off sittn dee higher level cz ull get more marks jus 4 passin!!

Glazun

Hm, my examiner and me were having quite a good conversation, about taking over the world.. and stuff.. :P He reckoned that if world war 3 broke out, I'd be infront of a computer.. >_>;

Just wondering is it he who corrects the orals? or does someone else listen to the tape? or is the tape only for checking the marks afterwards?

whassupp2

Glazun wrote:

Just wondering is it he who corrects the orals? or does someone else listen to the tape? or is the tape only for checking the marks afterwards?

The person marks them on the day. they're all recorded and the SEC say that they check them all against the marks but my techers reckon they only check some of them

disney

yep, you could ave dropped down its completely acceptable
soz ur principal was a ass, the examiner didnt know whether u were doin hons or pass. a few in my school dropped on the day.
u need to pass eng, irish and maths according to my careers teacher to pass the leaving.

but irish mite not be a requiremment for ur course so maybe the college will still accept u - i dunno bout that side of things!!