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is a 2.5 page essay long enough..and a 1.5 bishop essay?

  • 07-06-2006 6:24pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 308 ✭✭


    in english today since these were my last questions i did..i didnt have enough time to finish them..

    but do you think that a 2 and a half page personal essay will be alri ..and a 1 and a half page bishop question? like will i lose loads of marks for not having at least 3.5 pages in essay and 2.5 pages on bishop...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,467 ✭✭✭smemon


    too short imo. doesnt look good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭ThrownAway


    It's quality not quantity
    How big is your writing

    Guys does anyone get that Bishop is going to marked very hard cause nearly everyone did that question :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 308 ✭✭iggyman


    me writing is about medium not not big not small...very tight together...well from what i wrote in my essay up to that point seems ok but it was just aload of crap piled into my last half page of bishop question


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭ThrownAway


    smemon wrote:
    too short imo. doesnt look good.
    Yeah I was going to say that too but don't put the guy down ffs he needs reassurance :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Its really a matter of quality over quantity.

    However my cultural context introduction is longer then your Bishop essay.Which is pretty scary.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    I'd say Hardy will be marked the hardest, looks to me like more people did that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Attractive Nun


    You don't get marked for length in particular but I'm sure they look for a certain amount of content, depends on how much you squeezed in really. Length isn't all that big a deal though, I wouldn't worry about it, assuming what you wrote was of decent quality.

    Hopefully the examiners actually do pay attention to the amount of people that did the question, because Bishop, Longley and Hardy were virtual certainities to come up, so I reckon the vast majority did them, and I'm in the tiny minority of Donne fans!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 308 ✭✭iggyman


    well to be honest im only looking for a d3 in H english..any more than that is a bonus i just dont want to fail it...

    like i did 5 pages on them and issue which i should score high in because it was learned word for word...and then my king lear essay was good in my opion so a few loat maks in bishop question i can handle but its the essay im more scared of..like its a quarter of the whole exam and i can really only be marked out of like 65 % percent of it or something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭PrettyInPunk


    Raphael wrote:
    I'd say Hardy will be marked the hardest, looks to me like more people did that


    **** really?:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,467 ✭✭✭smemon


    ThrownAway wrote:
    Yeah I was going to say that too but don't put the guy down ffs he needs reassurance :D

    is that what the examiner will say ;)

    best tell it as it is. that amount is all right. but 9/10 times it won't be enough for an honour.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 308 ✭✭iggyman


    yeah once i actually pass the paper i dont mind..just dont want to fail...have to go and study mathes now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,467 ✭✭✭smemon


    iggyman wrote:
    mathes

    ;):p english isn't your strongest subject then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Glazun


    It depends on your content I guess, I'm sure that theres people who wrote a lot lot more and their over all factual stuff is less than yours... what.. what's everyone looking at me for? I didnt forget large chunks of lear quotes, then panic and stuff.. I also got so paranoid with my examiner, she was standing behind me for ages, till I turned and realised she was sitting on an empty table..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭OctavarIan


    I wrote less than I did in the mocks, and 3 pages was too short back then, but 2 and a half pages now of much smaller writing should be grand. I really don't mind now its over. I don't know why I wrote so small though my writing is usually sorta big.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭abercrombie


    Raphael wrote:
    I'd say Hardy will be marked the hardest, looks to me like more people did that
    nooooooooooooooooooo!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭Lord Oz


    That's not fair! Defeats the whole purpose of the exam!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Of course Rapheal may just be wrong,considering his isn't an examiner or a correcter.:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭NADA


    2.5 is perfect. There are people on here who wrote six and seven pages.I think they are full of **** or their essays are full of ****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,467 ✭✭✭smemon


    i disagree, 2.5 pages is not honours standard, its ok if you want a pass though.

    3.5 pages min if you want an A, preferably 4 or above. 6 plus is just taking the piss and will bore the examiner unless it's world class which it won't be unless your a genius.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Funkstard


    smemon wrote:
    i disagree, 2.5 pages is not honours standard, its ok if you want a pass though.

    3.5 pages min if you want an A, preferably 4 or above. 6 plus is just taking the piss and will bore the examiner unless it's world class which it won't be unless your a genius.

    My writing isn't that big or anything, but I constantly struggled to keep my poetry essays down to 4/5 pages. Today I wrote 6, and that ended up with me just giving a page long description basically on each poem. Dunno how in hell you'd write a decent answer in 3/4 pages


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭xha1r


    smemon wrote:
    i disagree, 2.5 pages is not honours standard, its ok if you want a pass though.

    3.5 pages min if you want an A, preferably 4 or above. 6 plus is just taking the piss and will bore the examiner unless it's world class which it won't be unless your a genius.

    ;):p english isn't your strongest subject then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,467 ✭✭✭smemon


    xha1r wrote:
    ;):p english isn't your strongest subject then

    ffs, im always doing that :mad:
    the hunter becomes the hunted :o

    actually it is by far my strongest subject :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭Zoodlebop


    My aunt is an english corrector and says that the ideal length for the paper 1 essay is around 1000 words. I only get 160 words per page, so that equates to about 6/7 pages. That is also plenty for Comparison and Lear, maybe with 200 words extra.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭River Allow


    I wrote about three pages. I fit bout 300 words in a page so should be ok like! I hope!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 960 ✭✭✭:|


    Raphael wrote:
    I'd say Hardy will be marked the hardest, looks to me like more people did that

    Balls:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭ThrownAway


    :| wrote:
    Balls:mad:
    Bishop too :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭DonaldDuck


    Zoodlebop wrote:
    My aunt is an english corrector and says that the ideal length for the paper 1 essay is around 1000 words. I only get 160 words per page, so that equates to about 6/7 pages. That is also plenty for Comparison and Lear, maybe with 200 words extra.
    You must write like a monster! I get 300-400 words per page!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭ThrownAway


    DonaldDuck wrote:
    You must write like a monster! I get 300-400 words per page!
    Yeah same here maybe even more phew I feel better now I wrote 3 1/2 I think


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭jimi_t


    Wrote 4 for the essay, 5 1/2 for Bishop (which was serious overkill but I was on a roll). I reckon the min you should be doing is 3 1/2 for the essay and 3 for the poetry - otherwise you'll be penalised for length.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭DonaldDuck


    ThrownAway wrote:
    Yeah same here maybe even more phew I feel better now I wrote 3 1/2 I think
    I only got 3 :( I had no interest in the essays on it and made it very dificult to write on. Had intended on doing the speech but not the one that came up,I ended up doing it anyway but not well at all


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭whassupp2


    What about Longley. first it was a letter to him. then you had to concentrate on his themes. bit awkward...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭Particle-Boy


    Yeah. It's definitely quality and NOT quantity. Although.. I don't see how one could fit enough into a bishop essay of 2.5 pages... Sure. Best of luck anyways.
    Besides I did a personal essay on Paper 1 of 8 pages and my teacher said that unless it is REALLY good that I will get marked down for the length. So I guess shorter is better in some ways!! Although in fairness I think that essay was the best one that I have ever written... So here's hoping!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    whassupp2 wrote:
    What about Longley. first it was a letter to him. then you had to concentrate on his themes. bit awkward...
    Discussing themes is basically what I do in essays anyway, and the letter wasn;t too bad if you were writing your essay on the day instead of regurgiating it. I did the themes of Nature, his father and sectarian violence.

    Particle Boy: Tbh I'd say you'd only get marked down if it's a bad essay that the examiner gets pissed off with reading after 2 pages.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭sticky9cd


    smemon wrote:
    i disagree, 2.5 pages is not honours standard, its ok if you want a pass though.

    3.5 pages min if you want an A, preferably 4 or above. 6 plus is just taking the piss and will bore the examiner unless it's world class which it won't be unless your a genius.

    I wrote 5 pages for the essay and 2.5 for the poet(Thomas Hardy), 3 for King Lear and 4 for the comparitive. had a full hour left after paper 2 but was in till the end in paper one.:D :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭DonaldDuck


    sticky9cd wrote:
    I wrote 5 pages for the essay and 2.5 for the poet(Thomas Hardy), 3 for King Lear and 4 for the comparitive. had a full hour left after paper 2 but was in till the end in paper one.:D :D
    Its words not pages that matter,how many words on average do you get a line?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 411 ✭✭Faerie


    smemon wrote:
    i disagree, 2.5 pages is not honours standard, its ok if you want a pass though.

    3.5 pages min if you want an A, preferably 4 or above. 6 plus is just taking the piss and will bore the examiner unless it's world class which it won't be unless your a genius.


    Bull****! I wrote 6 and a half for my Bishop essay and 5 and a half for comparative studies and my teacher told me that that's perfect!
    I agree quality is more important than quantity, but you can't make a generalisation like that about writing a lot!


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