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The Irish Poets

  • 03-06-2006 11:56am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 bunty_singh


    I'm planning on doing Yeats and Longley along with one of the English Poets.

    Is it true that one of the Irish poets is BOUND to appear on the appear? Or should I study the two female poets as well as back up?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭whassupp2


    nope. every year an irish and female poet has come up so its likely the same will happen this year but my teacher says that some year they'll change it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    You can't say that it's bound to, but it always has. I'd suggest you do the 2 irish and 2 female, that way if the trends continue you'll have 2 choices, and it'll put you up to 5 in total.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 bunty_singh


    whassupp2 wrote:
    nope. every year an irish and female poet has come up so its likely the same will happen this year but my teacher says that some year they'll change it
    doing the two irish poets is enough as a guarantea as one of them will definitely come up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 bunty_singh


    Raphael wrote:
    You can't say that it's bound to, but it always has. I'd suggest you do the 2 irish and 2 female, that way if the trends continue you'll have 2 choices, and it'll put you up to 5 in total.
    hmm. Righteo. Thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭whassupp2


    doing the two irish poets is enough as a guarantea as one of them will definitely come up?

    it should be enough but its not gauranteed


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    hmm. Righteo. Thanks.
    Nae tother ab all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭nedward


    Ah it is guaranteed. If it was changed, the Department would be hammered!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭OctavarIan


    I'm studying Bishop, Longley and Hardy well, and Yeats as an extra. That's enough imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭whassupp2


    OctavarIan wrote:
    I'm studying Bishop, Longley and Hardy well, and Yeats as an extra. That's enough imo.

    I'm doing the same except Hardys my extra. I dont thin kyeats will come up but hes my favourite out of thema all aqnd the easiest to study


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Rockerette


    i would just love the dept. to **** everyone over....


    but anyway..

    my "guess" is

    Longley or Yeats (prob Longley)
    Eliot or Hardy (prob Hardy)
    Donne or Hopkins (do i care? no...)
    Plath or Bishop (Bishop i guess? i love both, so its all good)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Rockerette


    i mean that last post in that, i dont think they'd put up both Donne AND Hopkins... or both Plath AND Bishop..

    i wasnt just "predicting" what 8 poets might come up in case youre worried... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 bunty_singh


    So, either one of the Irish Poets should come up and either one of the Female Poets should come up.

    However, there is a possibility of changing it.

    I'm doing Yeats, Longley, Hopkins. I thought this was enough because I assumed that one of the two Irish poets are bound to come up. However people have been telling me to do the female poets too just in case.

    My only problem is, studying five poets is a bitch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Glazun


    I'm fairly sure Yeats will appear, what with the whole 1916 rising aniversary..

    Hardy isn't on again for years and he hasn't been on yet.. so he could be

    Plath / Bishop could be on, but there's no guarantee that they will, of course, feminists will have a field day if they arent.

    Longley could be on aswell..

    Not sure about hopkins.. >_>; I find him an interesting poet, just hard to remember all the lines.

    Personally I'd LOVE to see plath come up.. :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭deisedolly


    I'm studying Hopkins, Plath, Bishop and maybe Donne or Longley I don't know!
    I hate Donne but I want to use him as my backup if Hopkins doesn't come up, but eurgh I dunno!

    And I know if I'm studying Longley that I should study Yeats as a backup but christ I hate Yeats aswell!

    Here's hoping for the ladys this year!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Rockerette


    i dont think the Easter 1916 thing comes into it at all regarding Yeats. maybe on the history exam...



    we didnt even do that poem when we were studying Yeats.
    aah well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    It wouldn;t really come up because of that, the onlt connection between Yeats and 1916 is "Easter 1916". He wasn't involved in it, and only a small part of his poetry on the course deals with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭Sawa


    Raphael wrote:
    It wouldn;t really come up because of that, the onlt connection between Yeats and 1916 is "Easter 1916". He wasn't involved in it, and only a small part of his poetry on the course deals with it.


    Im going to do,
    Bishop
    Longley

    (I semi- know those two)
    Plath
    Yeats

    Eliot(really dont wanna even try and learn Prufrock!)

    How are you to answer on Yeats really?! I like his poetry, but I wouldn't know WHERE to start on a question on him! What type of questions are there on Yeats?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭GretchenWieners


    Bishop
    Plath
    Yeats
    Longley

    Hoping a general question on Plath comes up, like in my pre!!!! Got a B1 in my answer and all, paper 1 brought me down!!! I'm saying prayers this all goes well!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 bunty_singh


    Glazun wrote:
    Plath / Bishop could be on, but there's no guarantee that they will, of course, feminists will have a field day if they arent.

    hahahahha!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 bunty_singh


    deisedolly wrote:
    I'm studying Hopkins, Plath, Bishop and maybe Donne or Longley I don't know!
    I hate Donne but I want to use him as my backup if Hopkins doesn't come up, but eurgh I dunno!

    And I know if I'm studying Longley that I should study Yeats as a backup but christ I hate Yeats aswell!

    Here's hoping for the ladys this year!
    Yeats isn't that bad. Read his poem "The Second Coming" Fcuking scary stuff.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    Sawa wrote:
    Im going to do,
    Bishop
    Longley

    (I semi- know those two)
    Plath
    Yeats

    Eliot(really dont wanna even try and learn Prufrock!)

    How are you to answer on Yeats really?! I like his poetry, but I wouldn't know WHERE to start on a question on him! What type of questions are there on Yeats?
    Personal response, the themes I like in his poetry are X, Y and Z


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 bunty_singh


    Se&#225 wrote: »
    is anyone learning the poems? i got an a2 in the mocks (well 89%..) and i didnt learn them off
    I'm not learning them. I'm understanding them. Well, understanding the ones that I feel a connection with and therefore, I can write well about the.

    Besides, you just need quotes on the poems. Whatever is significant and stands out to you and means something to you - you quote it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭Particle-Boy


    Bishop
    Plath
    Yeats
    Longley

    Hoping a general question on Plath comes up, like in my pre!!!! Got a B1 in my answer and all, paper 1 brought me down!!! I'm saying prayers this all goes well!!!

    I'm doing exactly the same as you so.. *fingers crossed!!!*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭belinea06


    i used to think yeats would come up with the 1916 but now i found that yeats is on again next year and he came up last year so i dont think he will. longley hasnt come up since 2002 and isnt on next year so i now think he is more likely to come up. donne and eliot are on next year aswell. do people think cause theyre on next year that they wont feature this year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭PrettyInPunk


    I think Yeats will come up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭DonaldDuck


    I'd love Donne to come up,but failing that I dont mind bishop much and I'll learn plath for the sake of women poets being a near gaurentee


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭Inglorious


    I recommend studying Plath, Bishop, Hardy and Longley.
    It is 99% that either Plath or Bishop will come up.
    I dont think Hardy has ever come up, so he's quite likely.
    Its almost certain that either Longley or Yeats will come up, and since Yeats was up last year Longley is most likely this year.
    These four are all quite easy to write about also.

    Hope that helped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 bunty_singh


    Inglorious wrote:
    I recommend studying Plath, Bishop, Hardy and Longley.
    It is 99% that either Plath or Bishop will come up.
    I dont think Hardy has ever come up, so he's quite likely.
    Its almost certain that either Longley or Yeats will come up, and since Yeats was up last year Longley is most likely this year.
    These four are all quite easy to write about also.

    Hope that helped.
    Why is it almost certain that Longley or Yeats will come up?

    Why isn't it 99% certain??

    (people have been telling me it's not certain and I'm about to crack)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    My god....how can you feel safe just studying 4 or 5 poets? I studied 8 for my exam and still felt inadequate! :eek:

    I remember hoping Hopkins would come up.....but he didn't :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭Inglorious


    Why is it almost certain that Longley or Yeats will come up?

    Why isn't it 99% certain??

    (people have been telling me it's not certain and I'm about to crack)
    An Irish poet has always come up. Yeats and Longley are the two Irish poets on our course.
    Its possible that they'll change the trend this year, but its highly unlikely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 Mellifluous


    god I hope Longley comes up... he's just great, I love his beard!
    Yeats came up last year... and Longley didn't, so there's probably a better chance of Longley... I hope


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭michelle_ie


    eck im stressing now... im repeating and all the poets are different and they did them all in class last year so im stuck with trying to do them myself and its horrible....

    ive honestly just studied yeats and longley and according to Leeson street the poets suppose to come up and Longley,Yeats,Bishop and Hardy???
    am i taken too much of a risk>????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 960 ✭✭✭:|


    My god....how can you feel safe just studying 4 or 5 poets? I studied 8 for my exam and still felt inadequate! :eek:

    I remember hoping Hopkins would come up.....but he didn't :(

    5 is totally safe, you cant be caught out :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭YeAh!


    I completely agree. Its better to know 5 poets perfectly rather than half-knowing 8 poets!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 ahsurewhynot


    I love longley, like hes one of the few poets whose stuff doesnt smack of pretentiousness, but tbh i kinda hope yeats comes up, because you do far better if you get stuff about technique in. And theres loads to say about yeats technique-refrains, alliteration, onomatopoeia etc-whereas loingleys a bit too straightforward


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭tinka


    bishop and longley haven't come up since 2002. yeats came up last year, along with eliot. plath came up in 2003 and 2004. i'm doing bishop, longley and hardy and hoping for the best!




  • Yeats has only been up last year though..

    Longley was on the Sample Paper, the next year, and the next year

    so it's just as likely that the could put Yeats up two years in a row..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭ThrownAway


    Actually, just take a step back and think about it.

    They don't have to do anything except pick four poets
    They don't have to pick a female poet
    They don't have to pick an Irish poet

    For all we know they could be picking them from a hat every year.
    Who's going to complain..

    '''OOOOooh ye didn't make a female poet question in the LC 2006 SEXISTSSS''

    To which the board of education would reply

    ''SO SUE US'' :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    YeAh! wrote:
    I completely agree. Its better to know 5 poets perfectly rather than half-knowing 8 poets!

    /me waggles finger

    I'll have you know I studied all my poets to a high standard! :p

    Of course, I hardly remember any now. :( Hopkins is the only one that has really sticked. Probably because I enjoy his poetry so much......

    "I caught this morning morning’s minion, king-
    dom of daylight’s dauphin, dapple-dawn-drawn Falcon..". Brilliant stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭ThrownAway



    Of course, I hardly remember any now. :( Hopkins is the only one that has really sticked. Probably because I enjoy his poetry so much......

    "I caught this morning morning’s minion, king-
    dom of daylight’s dauphin, dapple-dawn-drawn Falcon..". Brilliant stuff.

    :p I love him too yay another Hopkins fan

    C'mmmmoon Hopkins

    :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭PrettyInPunk


    Yeats has only been up last year though..

    Longley was on the Sample Paper, the next year, and the next year

    so it's just as likely that the could put Yeats up two years in a row..


    he deffo wil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭Rob30888


    he deffo wil.

    They've put a number of poet's on two years in a row, so it's quite feasible Yeats will come up ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭Particle-Boy


    Hmm. I had the weirdest dream last night that told me to do Longley... I will be like.. "oooh" if he really comes up.
    Regardless I am doing him over Yeats now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭PrettyInPunk


    Rob30888 wrote:
    They've put a number of poet's on two years in a row, so it's quite feasible Yeats will come up ;)
    i know thats what i said?that he will deffo be on it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭michelle_ie


    look at past papers...
    longley and bishop both came up in 2001 and 2002

    they havent been up since..

    i dont no i think they might throw two irish poets on there and bishop and hardy..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 960 ✭✭✭:|


    Hmm. I had the weirdest dream last night that told me to do Longley... I will be like.. "oooh" if he really comes up.
    Regardless I am doing him over Yeats now.
    jaysus thats like something out of the bible:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 bunty_singh


    I don't think that they would have a year where the two irish poets will not come up at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Basicallymy teacher said Hardy is an almost certainty,with Longley and Bishop the likeliest after that.


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