Automatic Writing

6th

Automatic writing is essentially writing that is done in an altered state of consciousness that is attributed to spirits of the dead. It is believed by some that the spirits literally manipulate the writing utensil in the hands of the medium to communicate, as the writer is often unaware of what is being written and often even scrawls out text in handwriting that is markedly different than his own.

Automatic Writing boards (like the one in the picture) are also used.

Anyway I was wondering what people thought of this idea of if anyone has any experience with it or knows of someone who has?

6th

Just like to say that this is my 1000th post and also its a year today since i first came to this forum! So gives big to hugs/manly handshakes to my fellow Paranormal posters!

comer_97

what a day for your 1000th post. Let us mark the 2nd of June for evermore!

6th

comer_97 wrote:

what a day for your 1000th post. Let us mark the 2nd of June for evermore!

Try to keep on topic..... oh and happy birthday!

Now back to Automatic Writing....anyone?

Oryx

Did it years ago. Found it invasive, if you can understand that? Kinda like letting something get a bit too close. And if nothing gives you the heebie jeebies having an invisible something take the end of your pen and move it definitely will. And yeah, the writing was nothing like mine, it was a nice joined script, which I cant do.

6th

Ok so there's person who's tried it and had it work - urging me on to really look into. I do think it is a very personal thing but i think if it can be uses to build a relationship with a spirit it could be a beautiful thing.

Would it be impolite to ask what kind of message you got? Full words, sentence etc?

Oryx

No beautiful meaningful message im afraid. It was as if someone was trying to write while drunk, blindfold and with their left hand. They seemed to find it difficult. I cant remember the exact things, but a lot of words were repeated. There was one cohesive sentence at the time, but I have no idea what it was. Is years ago. And I wouldnt say its a good way of building a relationship with spirit, like ouija, you get who ever is out there, its very random and difficult.

Nevyn

It works off the same principle as the ouija board so has some of the same dangers but is a lot harder to get working correctly and there are better ways
to do automatic writing them with a device like that.

6th

I only mentioned and showed the device to show how automatic writing has changed over the years and its relevant in regards to many people discounted writings as it was the work of one person and was easy to hoax. The device allows for more than one person which has good points and bad points. I see the obvious similarities to the ouija but i've never heard of automatic writing being abused in the say way as Ouija.

The preparation for getting yourself into the state of mind for automatic writing should keep those who are unsure of what they are doing seperate from those who would choose to use AW.

tallus

Not trying to detract from the original post here, but why would someone need a board like that in the first place. It's not in the same say, as a tarot deck which act like a crutch and are rich in symbolism.
Maybe I'm looking at it in the wrong way ?

Oryx

tallus wrote:

Not trying to detract from the original post here, but why would someone need a board like that in the first place. It's not in the same say, as a tarot deck which act like a crutch and are rich in symbolism.
Maybe I'm looking at it in the wrong way ?

Maybe it makes the thing physically easier to do, or its because it allows more than one person to participate.

6th

As i explained people use the boards so more than one person can be involved. Thought that said the thread is about automatic writing not just the board.

stormkeeper

I had an interesting experience with automatic writing ages ago. I was in this arre of Maes Artro, it was a "village exhibition" thing, as in how things were back in the times the place was used. Anyway, we did two sessions of writing, and one of the things looked like a plane, but the first one looked like it said "Help me," of which I had repeating in my head, which was interesting. I'm clairaudient if you were wondering, or at least I've been told that. I'm inclined to believe it more so than anything else, that and my empathy... lol.

tallus

Ahh right Mea culpa guys

Gordon

I used to love automatic writing. I'd write poetry and songs that way, got some really nice ideas and prose out of it, although a lot of it was nonsensical.

Not meaning to be funny with the spirit reference but I'd usually have a wee glass of nice whisky while doing it too. It's highly enjoyable and I reckon it can really get to your inner psyche if you relax enough.

Oryx

Gordon wrote:

I used to love automatic writing. I'd write poetry and songs that way, got some really nice ideas and prose out of it, although a lot of it was nonsensical.

Not meaning to be funny with the spirit reference but I'd usually have a wee glass of nice whisky while doing it too. It's highly enjoyable and I reckon it can really get to your inner psyche if you relax enough.

There are two different things referred to by automatic writing. The one you seem to refer to is a stream of conciousness thing where you allow yourself to write anything at all and see how it comes out. The other is where a force of some kind actually moves the pen which you are simply supporting.

Gordon

Yup, my force was doing all the work, I was simply letting the pen move as it wished.

6th

Automatic writing can be a form of channeling were your force moves the pen but its a spirit/energy acting through you. I think may thinkw e are talking about a floating pen here

As for thw whiskey, in the past when i've meditated and tried spirit contact I sometimes (but rarely) find myself wanted (almost craving) things i.e. certain foods that i dont usually like or drink. I cant help but think that these are desires belonging to the spirit. Dunno though?

solas

what gordon said, I've written some very moving poetry "automatically" some years ago. For the most part sleepless nights are great for expression

When my father passed first everything just flowed from my gob fluently and for a few years after I got involved with certain meditation gruops and healings etc...so communicating with the higher realms at the time was very natural.

Computer is great for automatic writing.

6th

I automatic write alot - usually when i'm tired! Could have been banned from here a long tie agp if it just hit "Post Quick Reply" on a few occassions.

Nevyn

Gordon wrote:

Not meaning to be funny with the spirit reference but I'd usually have a wee glass of nice whisky while doing it too. It's highly enjoyable and I reckon it can really get to your inner psyche if you relax enough.

The thing is that in voodun practices the act of drinking a small ammount of such a spirit was seen as a libation. That it was an offering for the spirit to enjoy while in visited and influenced or helped or inspired the automatic writings.

That was it was an exchange and the spirit would not take it's price/toll/due
in a different way by draining your engery or making you do other earthly acts of pleasure while it shared/influenced your body.

And yes the wee dram would also help with the lucid relaxed focus.

mysteria

Automatic writing is a process by which the writer produces words or symbols while bypassing the subconscious mind. The debate still goes on after hundreds of years as to the "source" of the material produced during A.M. Many like myself believe it is a product of the subconscious mind of the writer, and some Psychologists use it as part of patient therapy as a result. Others believe it helps you to connect to the Spirit world. If this is what you want, then my advice is to ask a specific loved one in the Afterworld to communicate with you, keep a photo, memento or token symbolyzing that person in your other hand as you write. Others believe you can contact Spirit guides, Angels etc in this way. I believe we all exist to some extent in a state of subjective reality so everyone's experience tends to be different.

6th

We gave this a shot in Charleville over the weekend and though we didnt get any "messages" there was activity.

Let me state that those of us that used it are not putting it out as proof as it was a very subjective experiences.

Interesting thing to try for us but to be honest i dont and would never expect it to hold much weight with anyone else. Only we know if any of us were moving it and i'm happy to trust that none of us did.

There is some good video footage of it which i will get online asap.

Thanks to KatieK and Stevenmu for having a try as i really wanted to do it

Oryx

I dont think any of us three would have had a reason to cheat at this, and like I kept telling you, the board kept sliding under my fingers, hopefully you can see that on the vid.:) Twas interesting but unfortunatly inconclusive.

New_Departure06

What did the Automatic Writing say at Charleville?

6th

New_Departure06 wrote:

What did the Automatic Writing say at Charleville?

6th wrote:

We gave this a shot in Charleville over the weekend and though we didnt get any "messages" there was activity.

Reading the previous posts will usually answer alot of questions.

6th

Here's a 5 minute video of myself, KatieK and Stevenmu doing the automatic writing at Charleville.
http://www.6thsensitive.com/videos.html

6th

Ok this was an interesting (if short) thread so I thought I'd dig it up having found this article:

‘Automatic Drawing Brought Forth through the Ouija Board’, 64 East 4th Street, New York, USA

James Trainor
‘May I ask’, the soft-spoken artist Christian Cummings paused, as if searching for a tactful way to broach a delicate subject, ‘how you died?’ Admittedly, in polite society the question is sort of a conversation-stopper. When posed to an unfamiliar, disembodied interlocutor via the less than subtle communication tool of the Ouija board it has the potential to lead to a little trans-dimensional pique. Promptly the tear-shaped Ouija planchette pointer jerked across the board to the failsafe word ‘Goodbye’, and the channelled ‘spirit’ in question, an entity using the streetwise netherworld tag of Bartman, had evidently logged off from the realm of the living. So it goes in the easy-come, easy-go world of conversing with the dead.

As part of Creative Time’s ‘Strange Powers’ exhibition, devoted to art that keeps an open mind when it comes to paranormal phenomena and the occult, Cummings’ four days of séance drawing sessions were a highlight, billed as a sort of open call to creative aspirants on other planes of existence to commune with the living. Setting himself up on the top floor of a creaky old (reportedly haunted) tenement building in the East Village, Cummings and his assistant sat solemnly at a table with a Ouija board between them, an overhead projector magnifying on a nearby wall the action taking place on the table’s surface. Donning black-out eye-masks, the two were attended by a young woman who took notes and read aloud the letters and words as they were spelt. Starting each session with the query, ‘Is there any spirit here who would like to talk to us?’ and a few perfunctory warm-up questions, Cummings quickly got to the matter at hand, and each wayward soul was invited to make a drawing (an invitation rarely turned down) using a magic marker affixed to the planchette on a fresh sheet of paper.

From the results two less than empirical conclusions could be drawn. First, the art world of the hereafter appears even more crowded than the one we currently enjoy *– open to anyone, with the famously departed jockeying with complete unknowns for equal airtime. Second, when people shrug off their mortal coils, they appear to start drawing in a pretty consistent style. Perhaps determined by the limitations of the Ouija technique (the pen nib never alighting from the paper’s surface), that style has a doodly, Etch-a-Sketch, tattoo-parlour quality.

One of the first to sign in was, a little surprisingly, Barnett Newman, who, spurning the cabbalistic mystical abstraction of his earthbound years, here seemed content to simply scribble ‘art history is fundamental but not essential’ in a shaky hand alongside a crude sketch (self-portrait?) of a bald man in a bow-tie. During another session someone with the sideshow moniker Carny Billy sketched Keanu Reeves in full Matrix kung fu mode with a carton of orange juice. When questioned about the juice, the pointer spelled out ‘v-i-t-a-m-i-n C’, suggesting that even the deceased can still be health-conscious. While a minority of sceptics could be found in the audience (one Doubting Thomas circled the table mid-session looking for signs of peeking, wires, mirrors or other evidence of a spiritualist con), the majority of those present were clearly happy to remain in the camp of the credulous. Looks of wide-eyed astonishment and evidence of hushed goosebump-ish wonder were everywhere, and on a deliriously hot and sticky afternoon in an un-air-conditioned walk-up a little delirious suspension of disbelief can go a long way.

James Trainor

Article HERE

kshiel

This link shows one way to do automatic writing. Please note that I am not telling people to try this, as always common sense must be used.

http://www.crystalinks.com/automatic_writing.html