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Tournament hand

  • 29-05-2006 12:36pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭


    Ok i know we all hate these guys me included but thier was two other poker tornaments on in Dundalk last night so i though they wouldn't get the numbers .... so went along to celtic poker tour 100 euro f/o

    As it turned out was 96 runners so not bad value for money they guaranteed 10,000.

    Get to the final table with about 90,000.

    Blinds are now 5000,10,000

    I get blinded to 75,000

    One player gone and we are down to 9.

    I get 10,10 folded round to me in mid position i raised to 25 , its raised to
    50 another guy comes over the top all in. I fold and the all in shows AA aginst AQ and Aces stand up but doesn't have him covered so still 9 and i now have 50,000.

    Top 3 are the only real payouts worth talking about its 1000, 2500 and 4000 i think.

    Anyway a few hand later i am 2 off gettng hit for the blinds again and i look down on K10.

    I know the guy to my left well and he is a good player i know unless he has a hand will respect my raise so playing against small and big blind.

    Thing is big blind is a maniac has called his whole stack a number of times all in with q6 , j,8 ....... hes a idiot getting very very lucky all night ... i was at his table at the start of the night and he had runner runner to survive and all in with me. He has about 200,000 and going to be another 40,000 for him to call ..... but i know any picture card and he will make the call.

    I think its my best spot for a double up and will be happy to take the blinds if not.

    So all in for 50,000 .... fold fold maniac calls with J4. Flop comes k74 ... turn is a jack ..... ouch and i am out.

    Sorry for this being so long winded but would like to know if what i did was right ? Now its not the beat i am complaining about but was i right knowing what i thought the BB would do or should i have waited for a better spot ?

    Thanks
    Opr


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    Hi opr
    Your post is kinda all over the place ... whats your question?

    I would never have gotten to this point, because I would have pushed TT in the first place, and would have ran it into AA and been out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    fuzzbox wrote:
    Hi opr
    Your post is kinda all over the place ... whats your question?

    I would never have gotten to this point, because I would have pushed TT in the first place, and would have ran it into AA and been out.

    Sorry i know its a bit all over the place in work and trying to do another few things at the same time as writing this plus coupled with a late night ... try to give me a break :)

    I had noticed the guy behind me had paused for a few seconds before deciding to limp ... wasn't sure if this was weakness or strenght so decided to test the water ... not sure if this is a good enough reason for folding but as soon as it came back round to him and he re-re-raised all in alarm bells started ringing !!!

    The K10 push was what i was interested in i know i am very short stacked in this instance and probably had to risk it but in general in the situation i described was it a good play ? Also at the table thier was another 4 or 5 stack similar to mine at this stage.

    Opr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭Goodluck2me


    your push is def correct here, i also think folding the TT was too, after a raise and a reraise. you pushed and were ahead... unlucky but you went in ahead thats all you can do...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Were you upset when the maniac showed J4o?

    Your thinking seems to be dwelling on the result rather than the move. if you'd won the hand you wouldn't be asking if it was correct. Of course it was. You have 5xBB and it's folded to you. I push in that spot with almost any two. A picture card is even better.

    Edit: I think folding the TT is marginal but is based on the other players


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭Goodluck2me


    after the re-raise and the all in, the all in was def not bluffing and the raise was most likely ahead. the best you could hope to be up against was 2x AKo


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    ianmc38 wrote:
    Were you upset when the maniac showed J4o?

    Your thinking seems to be dwelling on the result rather than the move. if you'd won the hand you wouldn't be asking if it was correct. Of course it was. You have 5xBB and it's folded to you. I push in that spot with almost any two. A picture card is even better.

    Edit: I think folding the TT is marginal.

    Yeah the result has probably scewed my thinking.

    My flip side to this coin was it was a big action table and i could have got past the blinds once hopefully a few more player would have dropped off ..... and have 35k left which is still only 2 double ups from being back with the chips leaders ?

    Opr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    after the re-raise and the all in, the all in was def not bluffing and the raise was most likely ahead. the best you could hope to be up against was 2x AKo

    TBH i have to agree ... table all thought it was an amazing fold by me but to be honest i didn't even think to hard about it ... couldn't see me being ahead after that action.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    opr wrote:
    I had noticed the guy behind me had paused for a few seconds before deciding to limp ... wasn't sure if this was weakness or strenght so decided to test the water ... not sure if this is a good enough reason for folding but as soon as it came back round to him and he re-re-raised all in alarm bells started ringing !!!

    I would have moved all-in to start with. You have 7.5BBs and TT. Im all in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    fuzzbox wrote:
    I would have moved all-in to start with. You have 7.5BBs and TT. Im all in.

    Yeah i know and 9 times out of 10 probably would have done this too it was just to do with my notice of the pause before the limp behind me and i had so far to get round the table.

    Opr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    Thanks think as was said am letting the result influence my thinking but was so looking forward to 2 weeks in australia with 4grand :(

    I am very new to tournament play been playing almost all cash games for the last year only have played about two MTT's before this.

    Got some buzz from last night it really is like learning a new game all over again.

    Anyway as the learning curve begins i am sure i will be meeting some of you in tournament aroud Dublin from now on :)

    Have to say i woke up with a real love for a poker again this morning like a kid that discovered a secret room in his house thats full of toys !!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    KT is a clear push, I think the fold with TT is brutal. You are almost getting the right price to hit a set even if you are behind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    RoundTower wrote:
    KT is a clear push, I think the fold with TT is brutal. You are almost getting the right price to hit a set even if you are behind.

    What do the rest of you think on this ?? The right price to hit the set its 50 more into a pot that will be 240??

    I agree with Fuzz that it should have been a push but i explain my reasons for not doing this but after all the action i think it was an easy lay down ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭jbravado


    I cant understand your raise with 1010-as it turns out you were in bad shape but thats not really the point.Bit unlucky with your final hand but youd let yourself get so short you cant really complain.


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