Bullying in big brother....scum

joe123

Hey Im not a major fan of big brother but have watched nearly all the series of it although not every night...but I have watched this years one so far and I just felt i had to comment on what ****heads they all are. Every single one of them.

I felt sick watching the way shabaz was treated by them especially that little arsehole seazar. Yes shabaz was annoying but my god what they did to him was fookn ****.

It was very hard to watch and every single one of them in that house are scum. No matter what you do no one deserves to get that sort of treatment from an another. Taking his clothes after they lock him out of the house? Picking fights for no reason. Seazar is a dickhead and I hope people see what I see because it was absolutely terrible.

That leaving scene with shabaz was terrible. I cant like one person in there now they are simply dickheads.

BTW does anyone else aggree that VICTOR was the best big brother housemate? He deserved to win it.

rsta

joe123 wrote:

Seazar is a dickhead and I hope people see what I see because it was absolutely terrible.

Agree. He is an sh*tn stirring posessive full of it idiot.

BuffyBot

joe123 wrote:

Hey Im not a major fan of big brother but have watched nearly all the series of it although not every night...but I have watched this years one so far and I just felt i had to comment on what ****heads they all are. Every single one of them.

I felt sick watching the way shabaz was treated by them especially that little arsehole seazar. Yes shabaz was annoying but my god what they did to him was fookn ****.

While it wasn't a particularily nice thing to do, it's easy to point the finger at their actions from the outside looking in. Plus everything looks great in retrospect. I'd imagine given the chance they would probably play it differently. However, their actions were very much an extreme reaction to the pressure they felt, and how worked up they were by Shabaz. Many a stupid idea was concieved in the spur of the moment.

BTW does anyone else aggree that VICTOR was the best big brother housemate? He deserved to win it.

Maybe it's just me, but isn't it a little ironic that you are championing one the more verbally abusive, and physically threathening people that have been the the house (remeber fight night, for example), yet you complain about this years contestants?

Chinafoot

I'm going to hope that the last line was an attempt at irony.

I agree on the bullying front though. Lea ranting at Shabhaz about how she won't tolerate bullies and then she sits there and laughs while they locked him out of the house and then stole his clothes.

Lisa verbally attacking him for being a "wasteful bastard" after Nikki stood there claiming that Shabhaz had thrown out 3 bowls of food when it had been Sezer was also painful to watch.

I agree that Shabhaz was a pain in the hole but treating him like that while accusing him of being a bully was bang out of order.

There are very few housemates that I actually enjoy watching. Pete and Richard would be the exception. They are all a lot more immature this year than previous years.

I hope Nikki gets her comuppance soon. She's a nasty little bitch.

Huggles

I think from day one I have been quite outspoken about my dislike of Shabaz, I disliked him because of his attention seeking, his sulks, and general nutcase-like behaviour

However, I too expressed my disgust at the the way the housemates treated him on his last day in the house. I think we will see more of this behaviour with regard to Nikki but she is setting herself up for it. I think we will see it in particular from Sezer who seems to be a really nasty piece of work.

Its funny to me that you start a thread on bullying in the house only to turn around and say that your favourite housemate was Victor, the mind boggles it really does.

This guy was one of the most aggressive (if not THE MOST aggressive) housemate ever to set foot on Big Brother. I really strongly disliked Victor for taunts to his fellow housemates like "do you know who I am? You don't know who your messing with, I've done dark things in the past." He was a horrible creature.

trishw78

Like the op I missed some of the first few shows. I thought what they did to Shabaz was awful and I sat there calling Leah a hypocryt while she said I don't tolorate bullies.

I think Seazar is a nasty piece of work and for once what we saw on his audition tape was the real person not some over exadurate person. I was sickened by his diary room appearance by saying that Imogen would be serving him and begging him by the end of the week. Don't let me down Imogen don't fall for stupid ploy.

Slinky>

I agree about Shabaz, the guy has some issues and I think Big Brother should have pulled him out before it got to that stage, He seemed to be Ok as a guest of one of the chat shows <bblb?>

Didnt Victor come very very close to hitting Emma ? If I remember correctly she was thrown out after the row , She was very emotional about the whole thing but he seemed to have a voilent streak

joe123 wrote:

Hey Im not a major fan of big brother but have watched nearly all the series of it although not every night...but I have watched this years one so far and I just felt i had to comment on what ****heads they all are. Every single one of them.

I felt sick watching the way shabaz was treated by them especially that little arsehole seazar. Yes shabaz was annoying but my god what they did to him was fookn ****.

It was very hard to watch and every single one of them in that house are scum. No matter what you do no one deserves to get that sort of treatment from an another. Taking his clothes after they lock him out of the house? Picking fights for no reason. Seazar is a dickhead and I hope people see what I see because it was absolutely terrible.

That leaving scene with shabaz was terrible. I cant like one person in there now they are simply dickheads.

BTW does anyone else aggree that VICTOR was the best big brother housemate? He deserved to win it.

Gandalf23

Yep, I agree too. The bullying of Shabaz was very disturbing and difficult to watch.

And Seazar is a nasty piece of work indeed.

Bamboozled

I agree on the Shabaz front, and now I see them turning on Nikki.
Nikki is also as fragile as Shabaz was and she wont be able for them in my opinion so she'll either end up being one of those nominated by the majority, or may end up being taken out/walking for health/mental reasons.

SprostonGreen

The bullying of Shabaz wasnt right, but calling them collectively scum isnt right either.

The mob mentality sets in, remember it from school, interesting viewing though.

popebenny16

It was very interesting. The only one to stick with him was Pete. Rest are idiots.

Nikki is a real stirrer as well, another on the verge.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Bamboozled wrote:

I agree on the Shabaz front, and now I see them turning on Nikki.
Nikki is also as fragile as Shabaz was and she wont be able for them in my opinion so she'll either end up being one of those nominated by the majority, or may end up being taken out/walking for health/mental reasons.

She the whingey one who want's a real man/pretty boy (contradiction in terms, I know)...? She's hilaroius!! Any shallower and she'd evaporate...

Bamboozled

Yip thats her.

iFight

Bamboozled wrote:

Yip thats her.

It was her that urged stealing Shabaz's clothes while he swam, although she forced others to carry out her work. She deserves it to come back at her. Goes around comes around.

Bamboozled

Oh i know that. its in one of my posts somewhere.

I just meant that they're picking off the weaker ones - IE Shahbaz, Nikki

Anyone that doesnt fit in with the Prat Pack or is useful to them somehow.

IT was cruel when they did it to Shahbaz, because he was ill.
It's the same for Nikki.

Tobias Greeshman

joe123 wrote:

felt sick watching the way shabaz was treated by them especially that little arsehole seazar. Yes shabaz was annoying but my god what they did to him was fookn ****.

Yeah have to agree with you here, that turk sezar is a right little sh1t if you ask me. The abuse and bullying he gave Shabaz that morning about the cereal, was totally wrong. I wish someone would have punched that little twat in the gob. The only person to give any sort of sympathy to Shabaz was Pete and George (to a lesser degree). Someone should have urged him or BB to leave the house. It was a major fault on BB letting him into the house.

I thought Richard was assuming the group mediator (much like Dan did 2 years ago), but he just took the side of the group, and cut off Shabaz.

dbnavan

joe123 wrote:

Hey Im not a major fan of big brother but have watched nearly all the series of it although not every night...but I have watched this years one.......

Is it me or have u contradicted urself twice in 1 sentence here.

BigWilly

To clear something up, Victor was never a bully. He almost hit emma? What big bro were you watching. She began to get very violent towards him and iirc called him a 'black ******'. He stood up to her was all. It was an arguement. He didn't get all the housemates together and talk about how they should bully people. In fact when his friends were being harassed he stood up for them too.

Dislike Victor all you want, but for 99% of the show when he was on it, he was just a funny guy who had fun.
Get over yourselves..

BuffyBot

Victor was never a bully

What big bro were you watching

Indeed.

Huggles

BigWilly wrote:

Dislike Victor all you want, but for 99% of the show when he was on it, he was just a funny guy who had fun.
Get over yourselves..

Difd you watch that series with the sound off by any chance? :rolleyes:

Bamboozled

He may have been funny at times but he did make a lot of veiled threats to people in there.

Huggles

Thank You!!

remember teh wedding task when he was SUPER abusive to the little blonde one...Shell was her name I think??

I think it was then he was roaring "do you know who I am..."

Bamboozled

No, it was the night with Emma "Fight Night" - that was when Stuart had him in a head lock and was shouting at him "Slick" when Victor was roaring that stuff.

I'm surprised Stuart didnt get a punch in the face. If it was anyone else I'd say sparks would have flown. It was only Stuart that kept him off Emma so he was gonna go for someone.

Maybe he did shout it at Shell too. I dont know. I cant actually remember much about the night of the wedding as I was moving house. It wasnt long though before I got the TV connected

Huggles

Bamboozled wrote:

It wasnt long though before I got the TV connected

hahaah I'll bet! I'll be in London on the weekend of the penultimate show, I'd love to go see an eviction.

Bamboozled

Start entering the BBLB competitions so!

joe123

First of all im when i say im not a major fan, I dont watch bblb, I dont watch it every night nor do I bother watching every eviction.

Secondly Im not being ironic when I say Victor was my favourite...he actually was. I know my post is about bullying but there is something alot different from what Victor did and what 13 housemates did to one person.

Shabaz had no one ( not even the guy with terrets sp? ). Walking out of the room when he came in? All were sheep bar one. Locking him out of the house? For the person who replied and said its easy looking in and its a quick reaction to the annoyance of shabaz being in the house...first of all they had plenty of time to think about their actions. Maybe the likes of glynn and the quiter ones were to shy to stand up to the likes of sezar but still what they did as a group to him was terrible.

Victor on the other hand for the most part was good fun and had the craic. He was nice to people alot of the time although he had a temper. But you cant forget the way they tried to rile him up. The bald fella and emma? They were in his face and really did insult him. He has a temper and THATS what you would call a quick reaction. Not tying a door, locking someone out and sitting laughing and then deciding to take his clothes....emotinal bullying at its worse...a far cry from victor loosing his temper when he was ganged up on by emma the bald fella and nadia. Victor had a temper but did have a good side...

This crowd especially Grace, sezar and richard. They are bullies. And now there ganging up on nikki.

If you think Victor is the same as the likes of grace and sezar I cant see it. Its my oppinion but Victor seemed like a cool guy with a temper. The ones ive mentioned above seem like nasty bits of work who think they are superior to everyone else. Grace and sezar are the worst they annoy the ****e out of me. Ah well the world cup will take my mind of it

btw if ive mixed some of the names up sorry but i think i know who im on about in this years series anyways.

Bamboozled

It is hard for quieter ones to back away from the louder "group". They did work as a "mob" against Shabaz. They had time to think and calculate.

Victor: I can see where you're coming from with the bit aobut his reactions and temper. Yes the bald fella (Marco) and Emma annoyed him. They annoyed a lot in the house and the rest didnt react like Vic did. But i do not agree that he wasnt a bully. Plenty of times he muttered the "do you know who i am" "do they know who i am" when he was within airshot of the rest of them and with jason. The only difference I see is that he was alone in his bullying and tried to intimidate those that were weaker than him in a slyer way than the group did to Shahbaz. They openly discussed it with each other and didnt care about the cameras catching them. Vic tried to do it on the sly.

Just my opinion, and remember, we all see different things in different people.

BuffyBot

If you think Victor is the same as the likes of grace and sezar I cant see it.

Well say he was in the house now...do you think he would have stood up for Shahbaz? I highly doubt it..

r3nu4l

I'm completely convinced that Shabaz was/is mentally ill and needs help. The mob rule mentality was unbelievable! Unfortunately Pete, while very intelligent is unable to sufficiently express himself or take an authoratative stance but I could see that the bullying upset him.

Nikki has been getting a lot of flak, God knows I think she is spoiled rotten and obviously has no clue about real life but again I could see how earlier in the day that little b1tch Grace was stirring the pot.

Grace reminds me of those uber-bitches you see in American high-school films, using behind-the-back malicious character slating language and generating an "exclusive" club-like feeling. Then the smart b1tch decides to be the one to "act" adult and be the one to smooth the wrinkles by having a heart-to-heart with Nikki.

popebenny16

Just reading about Victor. I agree with Buffy Bot and Bamboozled about him, but there was something about Marco which was really nasty, he would wind people up and run off when they exploded. BB still was never taken to task over fight night, as you'll remember Emma and Michelle had been wound up for days in the private room before being let back, with loads of booze, that was bound to happen. I still remember Emma and Marco and someone else jumping up and down screaming whilst Victor and Jason looked on, really pissed off. Four hours later they were all swinging for each other.

Regading this group, Pete didnt leave with them, he stayed with Shabaz who told him to go, lest he be also picked on. The real ringleader of all that was Richard, who couldnt really face being out-gayed by Shabaz. That said, Sahbaz has an obvious self-destructive tendancy and I think he actually went along with some of the bulyling, esp the tape on the mouth. They took advantage of a man who had serious problems and now it is happening again with Nikki.

Luckily for Lea that Sam came in last night, I have a felling that Richard wont at all like him either and he'll be the next to get the gang treatment. As for Sleezer, the second he's nominated he's gone, and good riddance. This years Maxwell. Pup.

Bamboozled

r3nu4l wrote:

Grace reminds me of those uber-bitches you see in American high-school films, using behind-the-back malicious character slating language and generating an "exclusive" club-like feeling. Then the smart b1tch decides to be the one to "act" adult and be the one to smooth the wrinkles by having a heart-to-heart with Nikki.

Perfect. That's her to a T

Marco was like a spiteful little girl in that BB and he did push the lot of them to the limits.

Sam and Richard? I dont know about that. He was having a fine old time getting his hhands massaged by Sam today and spent a lot of the day chatting with s/he.

I did notice that as soon as someone that wasnt used to their ways arrived, that they backed off Nikki. Probably figured that the new ones would be easier to target than Nikki was and they could get her when the two new ones were out.

Huggles

Bamboozled wrote:

I did notice that as soon as someone that wasnt used to their ways arrived, that they backed off Nikki. Probably figured that the new ones would be easier to target than Nikki was and they could get her when the two new ones were out.

Evenin' Bam Bam, I think they are backing off Nikki as they probably see her as a ally now against the newbies who have probably been watching ect....

Bamboozled

'lo Goon

I see it more as a "Look how much we get on well together, dont you dare upset the applecart" thing to the newbies.

Kinda like, "we're all able to have fun in our house, dont even think about settling in because you'll be gone... we're all "friends"

:rolleyes:

Huggles

Bamboozled wrote:

'lo Goon

I see it more as a "Look how much we get on well together, dont you dare upset the applecart" thing to the newbies.

Kinda like, "we're all able to have fun in our house, dont even think about settling in because you'll be gone... we're all "friends"

:rolleyes:

So wise, so wise!

BigWilly

Anybody catch sezer there?

To quote him in regards to the new housemates, "They're gonna get bullied"

iFight

BigWilly wrote:

Anybody catch sezer there?

To quote him in regards to the new housemates, "They're gonna get bullied"

Yup yup, with Imogen, discussing tactics against the blonde one. Why must i forget her name so often!!

jbravado

I predict Grace will become the most hated housemate EVER.She is vile.Sezar same difference.I wish Pete would stand up to them....theyll get whats coming to them though!

popebenny16

Having watchd tonights show and updated it a bit over on c4's board it really is a little gang of bullies (Grace, Imogen, Sleazer and Nikki being their bitch) who are trying to get people out one by one.

Interestingly even though Richard compleatly won the argument between him/imogen/sleazer this morning at 11.30 C4 keeps sayin it wasnt conclusive - shades of a conspiracy theory anyone? Look at the contemporanious posting of those who were watching the live feed and compare what is on the news part of the site and alo on p 444 of C4 teletext and see the differnce.

BuffyBot

Well Sezer and Imogen were barred from nominations, so it's not all bad.

joe123

Just watched tonights show...that little gang that think there the "cool" ones....there going to get what they deserve sooner or later. Pete is definetly beginning to emerge fair play to him for mentioning what grace and them were at.

That little gang are fools...to say the least the people in england better have the same idea as usually who ever i was up for always got a big booing???

Seazar and grace do my head in I hate the sight of them

That new blonde one is veerrry nice will enjoy watching her :P that grace one has nothing on her

joe123

BuffyBot wrote:

Well say he was in the house now...do you think he would have stood up for Shahbaz? I highly doubt it..

Well obviously I cant say more than likely not seeing as the whole house didnt. But there was a soundness in victor he was likeable, he did stick up for the crazy ahmed fella and alot of the time i think victor was playing up with his gangster persona.

Sezar is a nasty little ****e, Victor was different. Cant really explain it but i think there is a big difference. But again people see different things in people.

popebenny16

Buffy Bot, did you get that from C4? I'm on diall up at home and it takes too long to load. If Sleazer and Imogen cant nominate it should mean the end of that little gang. I would suppose that the newbies cant nominate either?

BuffyBot

Buffy Bot, did you get that from C4?

It's what I understand from Digital Spy, nothing confirmed yet.

Jazzy

yeah, victor was cool

pity that airhead "kooky" girl shell had to ruin the best character on bb.

i hate that word... "kooky".
ppl that are "kooky" should be slapped untill all the "kookyness" is gone tbh

Bamboozled

I agree. Good for Pete. Its hard for him to do because he was bullied himself over suffering from Tourettes but fair play to him for calling Grace on what she was doing.

Hopefully it'll mean that Sleazer is up automaticaly and when Davina calls out the names, hopfully the crowd will be heard either boo'ing or making comments. Would love to see him taken down a peg or 50 but its possible it may not happen.

C4 have been monitoring public opinion and there's very few that actually like Sleazer so its possibly they may hand-pick fans to ensure there's no booing. Like they did on previous occasions. Shame really. Its no longer a reality show, more like a soap.

SprostonGreen

Bamboozled wrote:

I agree. Good for Pete. Its hard for him to do because he was bullied himself over suffering from Tourettes but fair play to him for calling Grace on what she was doing.

Well said, I thought it was great when Pete confronted Grace, her climb down was cringey, I hope the cow gets a chorus of boo's this Friday.