Niteclubs:not letting me in cos im on crutches?

gary the great

Was up at my local nightclub last night and they wouldnt let me in cos im on crutches! surely this is illegal or something or discrimination, if I had of went up in a wheelchair would they of refused me?

Im going to be on the cructches for another 2 months and my exams finish this week and was looking forward to a good night out next week with the rest of my class, but I cant go if this is the way im going to be treated.

Does everywhere in town operate the same policy? COs if they do looks like I wont be going out. I know there cool about it in pubs but whats so different about clubs, im hardly going to be up dancing and I probly wont even drink.

?????

whiskeyman

at the end of the day, the management reserve the right to refuse admission.
However, they can not do so on grounds of discrimination.
I'd say in your case, they are using health and safety reasons - i.e. you'd be an issue in a fire scenario / evacuating the premises.
I've heard such stories before for niteclubs, but not in pubs.

Fast_Mover

A friend of mine was in crutches before and as soon as the bouncers saw he was on crutches, they let him in another door which was for wheelchair access so he wouldnt have to stand in the big long queue and have to manage the stairs..

godtabh

A while ago a work colleague broke her leg. She wasn’t allowed to work for 6 weeks because she worked up stairs.

It was down to the fact that in the case of a fire she wouldn’t be able to evacuate as fast or as safely as every one else.

She didn’t care and she didn’t think it was discrimination.

takola

kearnsr wrote:

A while ago a work colleague broke her leg. She wasn’t allowed to work for 6 weeks because she worked up stairs.

It was down to the fact that in the case of a fire she wouldn’t be able to evacuate as fast or as safely as every one else.

She didn’t care and she didn’t think it was discrimination.

Well in fairness, Who's going to complain about that???? :rolleyes:

godtabh

takola wrote:

Well in fairness, Who's going to complain about that???? :rolleyes:

ANother lad in broke his collar bone last year playing hurling and was given a doctors note for 8 weeks. Got bored silly and was back in work 2 weeks later.

gary the great

Well if anyone does know nightclubs in Dublin that do/dont let people in cructhes in, let me know !

But surely if I was in a wheelchair I would be even more of a hazard in a fire situation? They have to take account of this so therefore shouldnt be a problem I think.

Ruu_Old

Maybe they are afraid you might get someone a belt with one. It happened to a friend of mine (who thought he was a bit of a tough guy) and the bouncers knew he was a trouble maker. Probably not the same or your case....or is it?:eek:

godtabh

gary the great wrote:

Well if anyone does know nightclubs in Dublin that do/dont let people in cructhes in, let me know !

But surely if I was in a wheelchair I would be even more of a hazard in a fire situation? They have to take account of this so therefore shouldnt be a problem I think.

Your just the same hazard

Fast_Mover

just remember to mind your crotch..err, i mean crutch!:)

seamus

The Equal Status Act of 2000 covers this.

Where applicable, a service provider (in this case a club) should make every effort to accomodate a disabled person's access to that service. However, if providing this access would result in significant cost to the service provider, they are exempt from their obligation.

They are also permitted to refuse a disabled person's access to a service, if they would present a danger to themselves or to others.

So, essentially yes they can do this. Especially since a lot of nightclubs only provide stairs to access the club.

wheres me jumpa

I know a nightclub that lets people on crutches in free. Im told this is for insurance reasons. Dont really understand it, perhaps somebody could shed some ligh on it.

Chucky the tree

wheres me jumpa wrote:

I know a nightclub that lets people on crutches in free. Im told this is for insurance reasons. Dont really understand it, perhaps somebody could shed some ligh on it.

Heard this too, and this is the reason i have heard(not sure if its ture or not).


When you pay the cover charge into a club this covers your insurance. If you dont pay a insurance charge and get in free you are not covered by their insurance. And since a person on crutches is most likely to have a accident in a club they let them in for free.

Jonny Arson

In reality the main reason a person on crutches isn't let into a club is for the clubs image reasons. Sad but its true.

faceman

Zane from MTV2 wrote:

In reality the main reason a person on crutches isn't let into a club is for the clubs image reasons. Sad but its true.

LOL

wheres me jumpa

Chucky the tree wrote:

Heard this too, and this is the reason i have heard(not sure if its ture or not).


When you pay the cover charge into a club this covers your insurance. If you dont pay a insurance charge and get in free you are not covered by their insurance. And since a person on crutches is most likely to have a accident in a club they let them in for free.

Now that you say it I have heard this before but never thought there was any truth in it, seems a bit silly.

Dave!

Zane from MTV2 wrote:

In reality the main reason a person on crutches isn't let into a club is for the clubs image reasons. Sad but its true.

lol, doubt it mate

lostexpectation

But surely if I was in a wheelchair I would be even more of a hazard in a fire situation? They have to take account of this so therefore shouldnt be a problem I think.

thats a good point gary, if the clubs have a worry over disabled people causing problems they should reduced the number they allow in, so many small pubs and clubs over fill their venues.

gary the great

Ok so looks like I wont be going out for a few months, dam...unless them anyone suggests somewhere where they will let me in.

Being disabled sucks big time, thank God im only like this for 2 months......

Femelade

i got stopped yrs ago in a nite club in killorglin. they said my crutches were dangerous,as they could be used as weapons..........(they let me in eventually when i told them that i was even more dangerous around the streets of killorglin by myself..slightly drunk)

ferdi

Yes, the "More Slappers, Less Cappers" policy is common.

Terry

Ruu wrote:

Maybe they are afraid you might get someone a belt with one. It happened to a friend of mine (who thought he was a bit of a tough guy) and the bouncers knew he was a trouble maker. Probably not the same or your case....or is it?:eek:

my local nightclub has, on occasion, refused people on crutches, but they do allow my wheelchair bound friend in. i would imagine the no crutches policy is there to keep out people like your friend.
not that it stops fight. you're guaranteed to see at least one on any given night.

melekalikimaka

ferdi wrote:

Yes, the "More Slappers, Less Cappers" policy is common.

<falls of chair giggling like a schoolgirl> brilliant

faceman

gary the great wrote:

Ok so looks like I wont be going out for a few months, dam...unless them anyone suggests somewhere where they will let me in.

Being disabled sucks big time, thank God im only like this for 2 months......

hopefully its changed ur view of the world. next time disabled ppl are doin charity colletions give them a few bob (if u dont do so already)

Consider urself lucky chief!

wheres me jumpa

Femmy wrote:

i got stopped yrs ago in a nite club in killorglin. they said my crutches were dangerous,as they could be used as weapons..........(they let me in eventually when i told them that i was even more dangerous around the streets of killorglin by myself..slightly drunk)

Wow, thats amazing.....theres a night club in Kilorglin?!

CuLT

ferdi wrote:

Yes, the "More Slappers, Less Cappers" policy is common.

rofl, oh god ferdi have my children.

Hail 2 Da Chimp

Femmy wrote:

i got stopped yrs ago in a nite club in killorglin. they said my crutches were dangerous,as they could be used as weapons...

Maybe they'd let you in covered your crutches in cotton wool... then they wouldnt be dangerous!

stepbar

Try operating a pair of crutches when ur drunk.... Think about that one and come back and give me a reason why Mr. Bouncer should let you in?

gary the great

as i said, i wont be drinking, and i have operated the crutches while drunk, im on them a month now I know how to use them.

stepbar

So how does Mr.Bouncer know that?? Because you tell him? Why should he believe you? Im not defending bouncers a lot of them are not very nice but if if I was a bar owner to me ur a risk and thats why I wouldnt let you in