Help me with Nostradamus please!

Oriel

Folks,
Here's a paragraph my Nostradamus:

"The blood of the just will commit a fault at London,
Burnt through lightning of twenty threes the six:
The ancient lady will fall from her high place,
Several of the same sect will be killed."

This isn't one of these fake things. It's an actual real one by him.
I immediately started to think of recent terrorist attacks:

The blood of the just will commit a fault at London
Naturally, the 7th July attacks.

The ancient lady will fall from her high place
A reference to the Statue of Liberty - close to the twin towers. Is the Statue of Liberty next to fall?

Several of the same sect will be killed
And a reference to the suicide bombers.


BUT:
Burnt through lightning of twenty threes the six

What could this mean?
Twenty threes = 60? The six, 66?
Co-ordinates?

What?

S.

Ag marbh

On a side note there is a film on Nostradamus tonight 9pm Discovery

Jack Bauer

All of them predictions are ambiguous so it you COULD interpret it as the 7/7 attacks...meanwhile I'll be waiting the collapse of the Statue of Liberty

mikedragon32

Perhaps the royal family will be killed on June 23rd? The Queen is pretty ancient!

jaggeh

The ancient lady will fall from her high place

i think this is a reference to the justice system.
justice was usually a lady with a blindfold-scales-sword, and people nowdays really have no faith in the justice system in general.


dont call it the 7/7 attacks thats almost as retarded as calling the twin tower attacks as 9/11. if i punch you in the face today will you always remember it as the 17/5 attack?

Degsy

They have been proved to be the least accurate,vaguely-couched peices of mumbo jumbo ever written.He has failed to predict anything by simple dint of the fact that his writtings are meaningless garbage.Nobody has given any credence to anything he has said for years and a lot of stuff attrubuted to him have been inveneted in order to sell books.

So Glad

Here is a website about Nostradamus' predictions for the future. It's amazing:

Nostadamus on the future

Degsy

jaggeh wrote:

The ancient lady will fall from her high place

i think this is a reference to the justice system.
justice was usually a lady with a blindfold-scales-sword, and people nowdays really have no faith in the justice system in general.


dont call it the 7/7 attacks thats almost as retarded as calling the twin tower attacks as 9/11. if i punch you in the face today will you always remember it as the 17/5 attack?

Only since the 1800's has justice been portrayed as a lady with a blindfold.In the last 400 years have there not been any number of elederly female figures who could have fallen?Including an old woman who kept a wine shop on nostradamus' road?Why does everybody think his nonsense has to relate to world events of great importance???

Louisiana

Degsy wrote:

They have been proved to be the least accurate,vaguely-couched peices of mumbo jumbo ever written.QUOTE]

i agree, dont waste your time trying to bring meaning to something that obviously could mean pretty much anything you wanted it to.

Gosh

Originally Posted by sinecurea
The blood of the just will commit a fault at London
Naturally, the 7th July attacks.

Stretching the imagination to label suicide bombers as "just" - ([SIZE=-1]good: of moral excellence)

I thought this prophecy was to do with the Great Fire of London in 1666
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Mr. Presentable

"The ancient lady will fall from her high place"

WOAH! Juventus are known as the Old Lady. Does this mean they will be relegated?

jobonar

Did he not corrcetly predict Nelson Mandella as the 1st black president in South Africa?

Degsy

jobonar wrote:

Did he not corrcetly predict Nelson Mandella as the 1st black president in South Africa?

No.No he didnt.South Africa didnt exist when he was writing his nonsense.

humanji

No he didn't. Everything he said can be said to relate to some event merely because people are creating links between them. It's all just coincidence. If you took shakespeares works as prophecies you'd be able to easily map the events in his stories to recent history and to pretty much any other event in world history.

Kiera

jobonar wrote:

Did he not corrcetly predict Nelson Mandella as the 1st black president in South Africa?

Unless he said those actual words then no he didnt!

Gosh

Degsy wrote:

No.No he didnt.South Africa didnt exist when he was writing his nonsense.

Nor did Nelson Mandella - that's what predictions are all about

Oriel

Anyway Back on topic then? "twenty threes the six"?

Degsy

sinecurea wrote:

Anyway Back on topic then? "twenty threes the six"?

Who knows?Its all drivel!

robinph

sinecurea wrote:

Anyway Back on topic then? "twenty threes the six"?

Sounds like it could be a cricket score to me.

So Glad

Degsy wrote:

Who knows?Its all drivel!

Actually, I'm going to clear this up right now.

Nostradamus was not just some ordinary man who wrote what he thought for the craic. The man lived through pain. He continuosly had horirrific nightmares and visions and lived in a state of shock and paranoia. He didn't write these things in his sitting room on a boring sunday morning. He rote them throughout his life from the nighmares and visons he was having. If you would think his whole life of pain is a put-on then I would think you have some neck.

His descriptions are vague because they have obviously not happened yet. Look up his predictions on Napoleon. They are correct and unnervingly precise. Nostradamus also wrote his predictions in the form of poetry which would explain the vagueness.

Degsy

So Glad wrote:

Actually, I'm going to clear this up right now.

Nostradamus was not just some ordinary man who wrote what he thought for the craic. The man lived through pain. He continuosly had horirrific nightmares and visions and lived in a state of shock and paranoia. He didn't write these things in his sitting room on a boring sunday morning. He rote them throughout his life from the nighmares and visons he was having. If you would think his whole life of pain is a put-on then I would think you have some neck.

His descriptions are vague because they have obviously not happened yet. Look up his predictions on Napoleon. They are correct and unnervingly precise. Nostradamus also wrote his predictions in the form of poetry which would explain the vagueness.

LMAO!!!Brilliant!From predicting the future to being unable to sleep at night with the horrors.Its a wonder half the junkies in Dublin arent predicting the future..maybe they are...give them a typewriter!

Ciaran500

Why am I not suprised you believe this?

Degsy

Ciaran500 wrote:

Why am I not suprised you believe this?

huh?

Gosh

So Glad wrote:

Nostradamus also wrote his predictions in the form of poetry
which would explain the vagueness.

And in French so again translation into English would add to the vagueness

Ciaran500

Degsy wrote:

huh?

I was talking about So Glad, he's always in the 911 threads screaming about conspiracies.

Degsy

Gosh wrote:

And in French so again translation into English would add to the vagueness

And the fact that he wrote rambling,disjointed quatrains that didnt translate very well into any language,largely because they were whats colloquially known as gibberish.

Degsy

Ciaran500 wrote:

I was talking about So Glad, he's always in the 911 threads screaming about conspiracies.

Ah yes..the chap what reckoned stone age man built space ships,flew to mars,had a brief holiday there and returned to earth to lapse backwards into primitive,barely-human ape-men who left no trace of thier previous existence?

Terry

So Glad wrote:

Actually, I'm going to clear this up right now.

Nostradamus was not just some ordinary man who wrote what he thought for the craic. The man lived through pain. He continuosly had horirrific nightmares and visions and lived in a state of shock and paranoia.

yeah. i went through the same thing when i was suffering from depression.
it surely was a horrible time. thankfully, modern medicine was able to help me and the nightmares, pain, shock and paranoia went away.
some efexor and xanax would have sorted nostradamus out. worked for me.

Gosh

juleps signature ...

The people fled the city
But not our heroes
They followed the chick
She knew the secret of the light.

OMG - is this another Nostradamus prediction??

The_B_Man

no its just the plot for the next Tomb Raider Movie.

growler

It's obvious

23 X 6 = 138
+ 23 = 161
x 6 = 966

which is almost 666 ( except for the 9 , which is an upside down 6)

see ?


either that or it's the answer to one of the questions on Countdown sometime, spooky .

robinph

growler wrote:

It's obvious

23 X 6 = 138
+ 23 = 161
x 6 = 966

which is almost 666 ( except for the 9 , which is an upside down 6)

see ?


either that or it's the answer to one of the questions on Countdown sometime, spooky .

You can only use each number once though so your not going to be able to get 966 from just 23 and 6.

Although it did say sixes though didn't it?

Thats either he's just asked Carol for 6 small ones, I thought they were only given 5 numbers though, or they messed up the numbers board and gave him more than one six to begin with.

Either way the only person likely to solve this riddle is Ms. Vorderman.

Gosh

The sixes refers to the date 1666 of the Great Fire of London. The fire started on September 2 and ended September 5. If you add the numbers 9 (9th month), and 2, 3, 4, and 5, the total is :eek: 23 ...

growler

robinph wrote:

You can only use each number once though so your not going to be able to get 966 from just 23 and 6.

Although it did say sixes though didn't it?

Thats either he's just asked Carol for 6 small ones, I thought they were only given 5 numbers though, or they messed up the numbers board and gave him more than one six to begin with.

Either way the only person likely to solve this riddle is Ms. Vorderman.

are you suggesting that the wise Nostradamus incorrectly predicted the format of a Channel 4 gameshow ? What cheek.

I refer you to the passage

"there will be ties of many hues
and puns a plenty
Lynam rises when the white one ails
and the man of volder will be quite clever with the numbers and stuff
and liked by many of retirement age
numbers will multiplieth and conundrums there will be "

seems perfectly clear to me.

Terry

Gosh wrote:

juleps signature ...

The people fled the city
But not our heroes
They followed the chick
She knew the secret of the light.

OMG - is this another Nostradamus prediction??

it's about "the last night on earth"

robinph

growler wrote:

are you suggesting that the wise Nostradamus incorrectly predicted the format of a Channel 4 gameshow ? What cheek.

I refer you to the passage

"there will be ties of many hues
and puns a plenty
Lynam rises when the white one ails
and the man of volder will be quite clever with the numbers and stuff
and liked by many of retirement age
numbers will multiplieth and conundrums there will be "

seems perfectly clear to me.

Well I'll admit that he was pretty close on that prediction.

Gosh wrote:

The sixes refers to the date 1666 of the Great Fire of London. The fire started on September 2 and ended September 5. If you add the numbers 9 (9th month), and 2, 3, 4, and 5, the total is 23 ...

OK, so if we now have 9, 2, 3, 4 and 5 that might make achieving 966 a bit more likley. Anyone up for the challenge?

Remember you only have 30 seconds before the duh-duh duh dums start...

growler

robinph wrote:

OK, so if we now have 9, 2, 3, 4 and 5 that might make achieving 966 a bit more likley. Anyone up for the challenge?

Remember you only have 30 seconds before the duh-duh duh dums start...

don't you need a large number too ?

and indeed the great fire was in 1666 .........................:eek:

ball ox

Nostradamus was not just some ordinary man who wrote what he thought for the craic. The man lived through pain. He continuosly had horirrific nightmares and visions and lived in a state of shock and paranoia. He didn't write these things in his sitting room on a boring sunday morning. He rote them throughout his life from the nighmares and visons he was having. If you would think his whole life of pain is a put-on then I would think you have some neck.

1. Nostradamus made these preditcions based on "astrology"

2. He published them in a book, calender, alminac which all made him alot of money and sold largely due to their controversial content, in the same way as Chaucers Cantibury tales or an Eminem album.

3. The guy was a cowboy, an old school Derek Trotter. During the plague when he was working as an apothecary he claimed to have come up with a pill that would cure . It didnt but it sure did sell.

Sam Vimes

jobonar wrote:

Did he not corrcetly predict Nelson Mandella as the 1st black president in South Africa?

i'm sure he did. this is probably the prediction they're attributing it to:


something will happen in africa at some point in the future (dressed up in flowery language)



if he said:
"a man named nelson mandela will become president of a country called south africa"
i'd believe it but his predictions are so vague that they could mean anything.

and since they're so vague, people only fit the predictions to events after they've happened, so even if they are real, they're completely useless for predicting the future. they can only be used to predict the past

ball ox

Commander Vimes wrote:

so even if they are real, they're completely useless for predicting the future. they can only be used to predict the past

I think that sums it up really, well said

MrJoeSoap

Yet again I'm called out to deal with the cast of Police Academy.

It is sad to see that in this day and age people are still paying any attention whatsoever to this chancer from 500 years ago.

blu_sonic

does he know who'll win the world cup? I've a fiver that i can bet or set fire to.

Degsy

MrJoeSoap wrote:

Yet again I'm called out to deal with the cast of Police Academy.

It is sad to see that in this day and age people are still paying any attention whatsoever to this chancer from 500 years ago.

The same people who think the Da Vinci Code is historical fact.

Gosh

blu_sonic wrote:

does he know who'll win the world cup? I've a fiver that i can bet or set fire to.

Based on this thread so far, save yourself the time and energy of walking to the bookies and just burn it now ...

blu_sonic

ah its a smouldering pile of ashes. Degsey what are you trying to say???? but its,,,, its in a book!!!!!!!!!

Gosh

Degsy wrote:

The same people who think the Da Vinci Code is historical fact.

You mean it isn't ?

Gosh

blu_sonic wrote:

ah its a smouldering pile of ashes. Degsey what are you trying to say???? but its,,,, its in a book!!!!!!!!!

and a film ...

blu_sonic

so it must be true, next thing he'll say that there isn't an island where dinosaurs live.

growler

blu_sonic wrote:

does he know who'll win the world cup? I've a fiver that i can bet or set fire to.

I believe this one refers to the world cup or possibly chelsea

The great empire will be for England, with Walcott to the fore
The all-powerful one will hurt his foot for more than three hundred years:
Great forces to pass by sea and land and leicester, and the Eurotunnel
The Brazilians will not be satisfied thereby and have a big sulk
They will probably mention the war , forsooth.


you're fiver shall be well invested.

Gosh

blu_sonic wrote:

so it must be true, next thing he'll say that there isn't an island where dinosaurs live.

but I've seen the film, read the book and played the game .. surely somebody didn't make it up ... :eek:

Manic Moran

I'm certainly not convinced by him. I've read his work in the original, and in the English translation, and they're so vague that they can be interpreted pretty much to mean whatever you want them to mean. I recall that the english translation I read was written in the early 90s, and it was pouring over how the recently transpired events such as the collapse of the Soviets under Gorby, the election of Bush I and the invasion of Iraq had been predicted but then went completely wrong when it attempted to use the writings to predict near future events which had already not-transpired by the time I read it, such as Bush I winning re-election with someone other than Dan Quayle as a running mate.

NTM