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  • 11-05-2006 10:43pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭


    So have been playing table a while for 400+ hands
    Have been tight but a button whore
    I have probably raised 9 out of 10 limped buttons
    1 or 2 players are cottoning on and i have started to get action back

    any way
    Hero 120 button
    V1 CO has noticed that i raise limpers and has raised before me a lot recently and started re raising me stack 75
    On 1 of them i folded and he got heads up with SS with K8
    V2 BB not much on him except i think he is pi$$ed of at my stealing his blind
    stack 40
    Limped to me in 6 max NL HE .25-.5
    I make it 3 to play from button with jts ALL players call
    So family pot 12 bucks flop 789 rainbow checked to me i lead for 6 BB makes it 15 CO calls i call (comments) all else fold
    Turn 9 pairing the board checked to me

    Action


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    I think you are consistently betting too small on the flop. I remember another recent hand you posted, forget how it went preflop but you led for 11 into 20 or something like that. Just bet close to the pot and you won't have so much trouble getting the money in with your good hands.

    As played I would 3 bet the flop, I think calling here is quite bad. You could even push, but at least make it enough for the BB to be all in, then the CO will have to get his last 35 in at some point.

    I don't think you can get away from your hand once the board pairs, so just bet whatever now and call a raise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    As i am a button whore i regularliy bet half pot as a continuation its usually enough
    I am hoping that by continuing this trend I might get action here from a lone pair or maybe a str8 draw
    Is his range for raising and betting turn not a lot bigger than his rannge for calling all in back ?

    The two checks have me very worried of a set


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    Bet more anyway, it will still work. You don't have to raise every time you are on the button, you should probably raise just as much in the CO.

    I expect your average $50 player will call a flop push with a lot of hands that he won't always push the turn, especially I am thinking of hands like T9 or 67. Also if something like a T comes off on the turn you may not get paid. Thirdly you give a cheap card to a set or something like QT which is getting almost the right implied odds.

    I agree it looks like either of them might have a full house, but then again they might not. You will get called by any 9 (the 9 was the best possible card to pair) or a smaller straight, or some strange hand like TT. If someone has a full house they will push the river and you will call anyway, so you may as well get the money in now before another scary card comes off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    Preflop raise is fine
    Bet 8-10 on the flop. U have the nuts you want to play a big pot
    After the re raise and the cold call I definitely 3 bet this, probably all in trying to represent a scared overpair and hope somebody has 2 pair, or a pair + draw or a set


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    Pot the flop and push any raise


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    As i am a button whore i regularliy bet half pot as a continuation its usually enough
    I am hoping that by continuing this trend I might get action here from a lone pair or maybe a str8 draw
    Is his range for raising and betting turn not a lot bigger than his rannge for calling all in back ?

    The two checks have me very worried of a set

    Half pot is much better when heads up on the flop, or when you are oop.
    When in position after flopping the nuts, on a supercharged board, against 3 other players, who think you are whack-job ... pot and push a raise works good.

    If you lose to a set, then it sux, but c'est la vie ... you see 9T, 8T, QJ, 78 and so on here an awful lot. You really dont want another card to come off on that board, because there arent many safe ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    i called as i thought this might be a move on me from a raggy draw and i wanted him to go again i dont like cold call from co and possibly shold push there
    I bet 3/4 pot on turn and both folded ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭pok3rplaya


    fuzzbox wrote:
    Pot the flop and push any raise

    Agree. Keep playing like you were before, ie. very aggro without the cards. Thats th whole idea of using your table image - the whole table has been watching you raise with little strength, now they've started playing back and at the wrong time. Now's your chance to stack someone.


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