Buying a 1999 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 6

StillBallygowan

Hi,

I'm looking for advice with regards to buying a 1999 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 6.
The car is advertised on carzone.ie.
What problems could I incur by buying this type of car etc.

Thanks.

Kimbot

Depends on what exactly is done to the car!! Have you a link to it?? I might know the owner and could tell you what condition it is in!!

xzanti

I know someone who has one, it was imported in from Japan and when he had a closer inspection of it (post purchase) there were shards of glass in the air vent.. he suspects the car was crashed in a ralley in Japan and fixed up to be sold over here.. other than that afaik its grand, apart from failing the NCT on emitions... Although Im no car expert tbh.. hes had it a good few years now and from what I see its running great, but its well taken care of..

Anan1

StillBallygowan wrote:

Hi,

I'm looking for advice with regards to buying a 1999 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 6.
The car is advertised on carzone.ie.
What problems could I incur by buying this type of car etc.

Thanks.

Your No1 problem will probably be penalty points. I have a Delta integrale, and the car is nigh-on impossible to drive legally.

Henry Ford III

Be ultra carefull. This type of car is likely to have lived a hard life.

If it all checks out however, fsh, HPI, proper top to toe mechanical inspection etc. it could be very nice.

I think the suspension will be a touch "firm" but handling and traction should be incredible. The overtaking performance should be startling.

StillBallygowan

jonny24ie wrote:

Depends on what exactly is done to the car!! Have you a link to it?? I might know the owner and could tell you what condition it is in!!

Link for the car is - http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=414987

Kimbot

She looks mint!!
Get a mechanic to check it over fully!! Alot could be wrong with it then again nothing could be wrong with it!!
Lovely cars so they are!!
Why not got to one of the Jap import places and see if they have a very clean one coming in??

cargrouch

North Dublin Cars? They have some beauties of cars ads:

Skyline 2.6L Turbo "2liter in log book"
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=420820

The infamous "THIS WILL SORT THE MEN FROM THE BOYZ COME AN HAVE A GO IF YOU THINK YOUR HARD ENOUGH. MORE EXTRAS THAN J LO." Altezza
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=370787

That's me convinced.

smash

I personally think you'd be crazy to spend that money on a 99 Jap import. Did you notice it doesn't even have a gear knob.... god knows where it's come from or what the service history is like. Have you any other cars in mind? what's the bhp on it?

Slinky>

That 2 Liter in log book is quite dodgy it means some one has fraudulently registered the car with the revenue which is quite dodgy I would suggest staying well away, If he's prepared to lie to the revenue who can shut him down ...................

If your buying from an import dealer like that INSIST on seeing the auction sheet,This will show you the milage and condition when it went through the auction (AFIK the auctions are government sanctioned so this should be good information) For that money car should be a grade 4 or at worst 3.5 but if its anything lower stay well away

Most of the export companies in Japan store the auction sheets online long after you buy the car so if he's 'lost it' he should be able to re print it.

There looks like a lot of oil splashed about the rocker cover there , hard to say from a picture and it could've just been some sloppy mechanic filling it but definitely worth checking,

The service intervals on evo's are horiffically low 5,000kms (i think) so its much much better to get one with a service history, 300+ bhp from a 2litre engine is obviosly highly tuned so they need to be looked after, Might be worth your while paying extra for a UK spec car with a service history???

Budget for late teens MPG and servicing ever couple of thou KM's!
MLR mitsubishi lancer register has loads more info

Good Luck with it!

cargrouch wrote:

North Dublin Cars? They have some beauties of cars ads:

Skyline 2.6L Turbo "2liter in log book"
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=420820

The infamous "THIS WILL SORT THE MEN FROM THE BOYZ COME AN HAVE A GO IF YOU THINK YOUR HARD ENOUGH. MORE EXTRAS THAN J LO." Altezza
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=370787

That's me convinced.

smash

with ads like that I'd say it's only a matter of time before they get investigated.

Slinky>

That sort of thing has been going on for years, seems particularly rampant round north dublin, The net effect to the revnue is huge for every year every dodgy car is on the road there not paying the correct tax + they didnt pay the correct VRT originally,

More worryingly is what happens when one of these cars is inevitably crashed and the engine size, log book and insurance dont tally up

Revenue are too busy uping the VRT for the honest people who pay it to notice it seems

smash

well I paid 4600 VRT on my car, it's hardly fair that he's gotten away with scamming it, these import dealers should be regulated and monitored.

ismynametoolong

If its a Jap import my advise is keep your money in your pocket ! All Jap imports especially Turbo models are designed for use in the Japan domestic market and to run on 100 Ron . They may be cheaper at the off but are guaranteed to cost you more in the long run .Have a look for a good Irish or European parallel import . I know lots of people burnt with Japo Turbo imports of all makes !

Slinky>

If its a Jap import my advise is keep your money in your pocket ! All Jap imports especially Turbo models are designed for use in the Japan domestic market and to run on 100 Ron . They may be cheaper at the off but are guaranteed to cost you more in the long run .Have a look for a good Irish or European parallel import . I know lots of people burnt with Japo Turbo imports of all makes !

Thats not always the case in a lot of cars the ECU will make changes to allow for the differnce in petrol,

I have a skyline at home that i didnt have to make any changes to and been dyno'd at 334bhp on 95oct with a rich mix no knock ect

Obviously as you say some cars can burn a piston from poor fueling/over boosting

ismynametoolong

ismynametoolong wrote:

If its a Jap import my advise is keep your money in your pocket ! All Jap imports especially Turbo models are designed for use in the Japan domestic market and to run on 100 Ron . They may be cheaper at the off but are guaranteed to cost you more in the long run .Have a look for a good Irish or European parallel import . I know lots of people burnt with Japo Turbo imports of all makes !

While true, most modern cars have knock sensors to adjust the timing if detonation/knocking occurs. Should be the same with the evo.

Since 98RON or Super unleaded is rare in this country you should be using octane booster, an additive you put in your car just to be sure.

Bear in mind if you use plain 95RON and the car has had any performance modifictions like running increased boost, larger turbo install or if it has been chipped this will increase the likelyhood of knocking and having your engine destroyed.

If you go the import route, consider getting the engine remapped for 95RON.

And lastly, if your buying an Evo you are definatly thinking with your heart not your head so don't listen to the doomsayers. Do your own research, know what to look for, join one of the many evo owners clubs online and ask real owners their experiences.

Best of luck.
Ronoc (not an Evo owner....yet!)

bspoke

If you are getting any high powered car from Japan the first thing you will need to do is get it remapped for 95oct. Try Nengun or takiara (not sure of the spelling on that one) for a power fc. Normally cost about 600 delivered to your door.

Bring it of to a specialist tuner who will rolling road it not some gob****e with a laptop out to make some quick cash. Martin Treacy in Enfield comes highly recommended.

As mentioned the main things with Evo' is that they need to be regularily serviced - every 3000 miles at most

ismynametoolong

Quote "Since 98RON or Super unleaded is rare in this country you should be using octane booster, an additive you put in your car just to be sure."

Unless you are prepared to mix your fuel outside the fuel tank Octane boosters can cause more problems than they solve as throwing a bottle into the tank produces pockets of different calorific values within the fuel .
There is no proper remap available in Ireland reducing the ignition timing and and boost control is not a remap !!!

Rolling roads are con jobs in Ireland and are only as good and reliable as the people who own and operate them the figures can be manipulated to achieve any figure you want and then the figure achieved is at the driven wheel where the manufacturers figures are at the fly wheel . There is then a non tangiable calculation or guesstimate to obtain the final figure which will be different on any given day !! " A fool and his Money "

bspoke

bspoke wrote:

As mentioned the main things with Evo' is that they need to be regularily serviced - every 3000 miles at most

What orifice did you pull that figure from?

ismynametoolong

ismynametoolong wrote:

ignition timing and and boost control is not a remap !!!

But thats all you need to change...

ismynametoolong

Quote:
Originally Posted by ismynametoolong
ignition timing and and boost control is not a remap !!!

"But thats all you need to change..."

In that case the vehicle is still running on its original Ignition and fuel map with figures substituted at certain values "UNSAFE" This is the same as putting a power chip into a turbo powered vehicle all it does is send corrupted or misleading info to the ECM to allow for higher boost output by delaying waste gate actuator opening time .

ismynametoolong

ismynametoolong wrote:

Quote:

In that case the vehicle is still running on its original Ignition and fuel map with figures substituted at certain values "UNSAFE" This is the same as putting a power chip into a turbo powered vehicle all it does is send corrupted or misleading info to the ECM to allow for higher boost output by delaying waste gate actuator opening time .

Yes, again this is all that needs to happen.

If you adjust boost and retard the timing, you are doing the same thing the engine does when it detects knocking.

merlinsmerryman

ronoc wrote:

What orifice did you pull that figure from?

When Topgear reviwed the Evo 9 in the last series that was one of the main points made. Given that a 2 litre engine is producing 300+ horse power it is going to need a lot of care and servicing regulary i.e 3000-5000 miles.

merlinsmerryman

merlinsmerryman wrote:

When Topgear reviwed the Evo 9 in the last series that was one of the main points made. Given that a 2 litre engine is producing 300+ horse power it is going to need a lot of care and servicing regulary i.e 3000-5000 miles.

It was an Evo 8.

The limited edition 400 bhp one. And the service interval is 4500.

djeclips

www.lancerregister.com

Will be great for advice.

Have a for sale section,Great thing you can check back through sellers past posts and see how the car was treated.

bspoke

ronoc wrote:

What orifice did you pull that figure from?

It seems im not the only one to pull that figure form the same orifice

Slinky wrote:

The service intervals on evo's are horiffically low 5,000kms

bspoke

ronoc wrote:

It was an Evo 8.

The limited edition 400 bhp one. And the service interval is 4500.

Jeez give or take 1000 miles! If you are using the car as a daily driver that would only be one months difference either way they have to be serviced more regularily than other cars