Schumi back

Dcully

As much as im not a fan of Schumi its great for the sport to see him and Ferrari challenge Alonso and Renault.

Even though yet again yesterdays race was nothing more than a precession which i blame on the circuits more than anything else.
A lot of these European circuits just dont cut it for F1 racing.
They are far too narrow imo.
Compared to the latest ultra modern circuits like Bahrain,Sepang etc.

I really hope mclaren get their act together and make it a three horse race,Kimi imo with a good car has the beating of both Schumi and Alonso.
3 awesome driver,with 3 cars almost equal this years season could sparkle into life.

endplate

Ha it's the opposite for me being a big fan of Schumi. Did you see Alonso's face on the podium he was not a happy bunny. Flavio made the mistake of saying where were the opposition we are unbeatable in Australia and since then they haven't won.

McLaren have the speed to compete and get podiums Kimi lead a few times during the race yesterday so the pace is there. Their biggest problem is they keep shooting themselves in the foot by fueling heavy for qualifying and then they struggle in the race. Why they keep going with this stratagy I don't know.

The FIA are resposible for the lack of overtaking bring back slicks to improve mechanical grip and then reduce aerodynamic grip steel brake disks would be good too cause you will have longer braking distances and brake fade would be a problem for drivers.

Running Bing

I cant believe theres still idiots out there who dont rate him as a driver:p I hate to see the guy win but there is no denying he is sheer class, not to mention one of the greatest drivers of all time. Still another incredibly dull race is worrying. I dont think i am exagerating when I say there wasnt really one moment of excitement in the whole gp(except for a minor tussle between jpm and fisi). Also thats two races now without seeing one decent overtaking move iirc:eek: As much as people rate strategy as part of the sport that shouldnt be what its about but it seems to be getting to the stage where the pits are where the race is won or lost and the only opportunity to get in front of an opponent:( For me that is not what "racing" is about. and if it keeps up something drastic has to be done.

Running Bing

endplate wrote:

The FIA are resposible for the lack of overtaking bring back slicks to improve mechanical grip and then reduce aerodynamic grip steel brake disks would be good too cause you will have longer braking distances and brake fade would be a problem for drivers.

Two very good suggestions. Id also add getting rid of traction control. There was an interesting article in this months f1 racing with Max Mosley about this issue where he basically said getting rid of traction control would result in cheating as there would be no way to fully ensure cars arent using in. Id be sceptical about this claim but im no expert on the subject. It will be also interesting to see how these radical new wings will alter things.

Robbo

Babybing wrote:

Two very good suggestions. Id also add getting rid of traction control. There was an interesting article in this months f1 racing with Max Mosley about this issue where he basically said getting rid of traction control would result in cheating as there would be no way to fully ensure cars arent using in. Id be sceptical about this claim but im no expert on the subject. It will be also interesting to see how these radical new wings will alter things.

Well part of the reason why traction control was brought back in was because there was a lot of doubt over a number of trick diffs used and it made more sense to just allow the TC back in again because it was being implemented by proxy.

Kersh

2 dull races in a row - and where are we off to next, why its F1s second home, Barcelona, traditionally the dullest race ever. Good to see Schuey back up there (anyone to kick renault around a bit), I think he really took it out of Alonso, then again if Scuey were winning all the time, i would be hoping someone would challenge , I just like a fight.
As for Kimi, im sure he cant wait to get into that Ferrari.

Jonny Arson

Hardly surprising to see that when Schumi is back winning F1 becomes a boring snoozefest once again.

That race on Sunday was an absolute disgrace to motorsport. It was like a practice session, cars going round and round and round not racing. Simply further proof to the pudding that most of the F1 drivers on the grid have little ability to overtake competitiors, most of them are glorified test drivers not race drivers. Traction control needs to be got rid of now and not in 2 years time. It has killed F1 for the past few seasons.

Edwardius

Zane from MTV2 wrote:

Hardly surprising to see that when Schumi is back winning F1 becomes a boring snoozefest once again.

That race on Sunday was an absolute disgrace to motorsport. It was like a practice session, cars going round and round and round not racing. Simply further proof to the pudding that most of the F1 drivers on the grid have little ability to overtake competitiors, most of them are glorified test drivers not race drivers. Traction control needs to be got rid of now and not in 2 years time. It has killed F1 for the past few seasons.

it was a "snoozefest" when the blue cars were kicking ass too, I don't see what has changed apart from the colour of the car winning. I enjoyed the race though.

Re traction control: It was brought in in (amongst other reasons stated above) an attempt to level the playing field when a certain character was mowing the competition into the ground. There were overtaking manoeuvres throughout the field during the race, it's just that when they don't involve the driver people follow, they get ignored.

OSiriS

Aye, the guy in charge of directing the tv footage of races is probably the most to blame for how boring F1 can be. I have watched many races in the past where the director chose to show schumacher 30 seconds ahead of the field driving laps, all the while ignoring all the battles for position further down the field. People watch races to see racing, not laps of the track.

Running Bing

Yes this is another issue, the coverage for the last two races has been deplorable. The camera just follows the lead driver for the entire race. There must be some action happening in the midfield, but if the car aint red and the driver doesnt have an ample chin Italian and german tv stations, respectively, dont seem to care.

lost_for_words

Have you met the tifosi??? Don't blame the tv ppl for poor coverage, they probably fear for their lives
Although seriously it's just not the same having no Jordan and Arrows battling away down the back, it's nice to see what else is going on aside from the few cars that get away fast at the start.

OSiriS

I wasn't just talking about the last few races, the wost case I remember was the Brazillian GP a few years back when Schumacher had a monsterous lead. The only time you would have known there were other drivers on the track was when he lapped back markers. The cameras literally did not leave him.

steviec

I don't get the singling out of Schumacher. The McLaren dominance of 98 was excruciating at times, and todays race where Alonso dominated was the most boring of the season so far. At least at Nurburgring and Imola there were moments of doubt at pitstops and he had to do some work for his win. Personally I thought Imola was really exciting, Alonso clearly had the best car and Schumacher was never remotely safe, it took some real skill and great tactics to get the pitstops just right and not to make a single mistake under a ton of pressure.

Today's race in Spain on the other hand had nothing of interest whatsoever. The Renault was the fastest car by miles and he just ran away with the race. I do find though that year after year at this stage in the Season after a typically processional Spanish GP(regardless of who wins), everyone complains about what a snoozefest formula 1 is, but the upcoming races once they travel to Canada(Monaco can be 50/50) always make up for it. Simple solution is to take a good look at the race calendar. If I was in charge Barcelona would be first to go, followed by Hungaroring. Unfortunately in the real world there's a lot more considerations to be made when holding a GP than just track layout.

OSiriS

It's not the dominance of Schumacher, it's that he is the F1 equivalent of Man U. Everyone and their granny jumps on the bandwagon to support him, including the television directors who decide what action to show. No other team or driver has had the kind of coverage that we have been forced to endure from Schumacher. Even when other teams are dominating and schumacher is struggling he will still get his fair share of TV time.

Darwin

I wholeheartedly agree with steviec's remarks. The layout of the Barcelona circuit simply doesn't lend itself to an exciting race - e.g a very fast final corner leading on to the main straight limits overtaking opportunities. Modern circuits such as those in Asia (Malaysia, Shanghai) show how it should be done with wide tracks and long straights. Funnily enough though, the street circuit of Montreal has always provided extremely entertaining races. I wonder what sort of reception F1 will get this year in Indianapolis after last year's fiasco

Running Bing

Tbh a driver dominating isnt the most annoying thing for me, its the lack of anything that could actually be deemed racing. The race ended yesterday with the top 10 more or less being in the order of the starting grid and the only deviaitons were not as a result of overtaking but good strategy and a less than spectacular collision. Honda would be my team but aside from that im pretty much neutral and couldnt care who comes where but I expect to see at least some battling on the track. The only thing that could be interpreted as battling yesterday was trulli and rosberg on the last lap and the camera was swiftly brought away to show the renault garage celebrating:mad: After a promising enough start the last 3 gps have been absolutely horrendous, I pray it picks up:rolleyes:

edwin privitera

Dcully wrote:

As much as im not a fan of Schumi its great for the sport to see him and Ferrari challenge Alonso and Renault.

Even though yet again yesterdays race was nothing more than a precession which i blame on the circuits more than anything else.
A lot of these European circuits just dont cut it for F1 racing.
They are far too narrow imo.
Compared to the latest ultra modern circuits like Bahrain,Sepang etc.

I really hope mclaren get their act together and make it a three horse race,Kimi imo with a good car has the beating of both Schumi and Alonso.
3 awesome driver,with 3 cars almost equal this years season could sparkle into life.

I agree with u, its always good to see a proper competition with real contenders. next year should be more interesting due to the sole tyre make. Bridgstone will be the tyre contractors for the F1 2007. by eliminating the tyre equation we will be seeing more of the capabilities of the car and the driver although we hope to have an interesting season this year with ferrari and the 'mighty shumi' giving a challange