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Poker Theory explaination

  • 03-05-2006 2:39pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭


    Ok i am completely ignorant of what folding equity is and how it influences you decisions. So if anyone fancies the task of tring to explain it, it would be much appreciated.

    Also is it explained in Harrington part 1


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭BigDragon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    On this point, do people consciousley think percentages when they calculate folding equity, with me I just tend to bet by instinct as in I want them to fold so I bet an amount where I think they will but I never think of the % odds that they will fold, should I?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    Yes you should, and you should know in advance how often you need them to fold in order to make your play profitable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭handsfree


    thanks for that big D.

    Fuzz how does one calculate it or hould it be left to poker tracker


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Norwich Fan Rob


    calculating folding equity is a feel thing, but largely based on how deep villians and your stacks are, and how much is already in the pot.

    ie, the greater % he has in the pot, or the larger the pot relative to either players stack, the less chance he can fold to a big bet.

    Knowing your % chance of winning a hand with a draw is also vital.

    The easiest way to do this, is count the number of cards that can come to win u the hand (outs), and multiply this by 4 if there are 2 cards to come, and x2 with 1 card to come.

    Ie: you have 5d6d........flop is 3d4dQs.
    u have villian on AQ, KK, AA or the like.
    Therefore, and diamond (9 left), or any 2 or 7 (for the str8, 6 of these left, dont double count the 2d and 7d) will win u the hand.
    This gives u 15 outs, u have an approx 60% chance to win this hand on the flop, and if u miss the turn, u have a 30% chance of winning it on the river.


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  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    But remember, an "out" isnt any card that can improve your hand. Its cards that give you a fairly high chance of winning the pot. Personally I draw the line at "will put me in front if I'm not already" but obviously it very much depends what you have put your opponent on and what his redraw is.

    DeV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭BigDragon


    My fold equity calculations envole position, stack size and at what point in the tournament we are (adjusted for ring games). This is gut not maths.

    See hector post #23 in this thread.


    Also, folding equity comes into play when re-raising. One thing I like to be able to see is that I have enough chips that my stack is a factor of his raise (ie he raises 4xbb then I can reraise all-in more than 4xRaise) and that if he calls he will have approx half his original stack. This is a good fold equity raise with a marginal hand in the situation where you know the player can fold decent hands. Not to be tried with maniacs......


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Not to mention what YOUR table image is and whether he's paying a blind bit of notice :)

    DeV.


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