presents from Charleville?

solas

If the folk who went to Charleville on april 18th could have a look here I'd really appreciate it. That includes you Zillah. (someone might check to see if he's got his headphones on)

I've been picking up a LOT of energy over the last week or so and while it may have other sources, I'm aware of how easy it is to pick up stuff from haunted places.
Maybe all of you who went to charleville last week might consider performing a cleansing, be it a mental process or a physical one, the most important aspect is recognising and aknowledging that at the moment you guys may be subtely influenced by some residual energy.

You can help yourself by asking a few questions about how you been feeling since you came back, are you feeling caught up in emotional currents, do you feel angry, sad, confused any headaches or stomache aches, or maybe just a fuzzy tummy? (I know, silly it seems)

If ya think ya might be carrying around some residual stuff, just aknowledging the source of these symptoms will help to release them, then have a hot shower and let the water clense you, inside and out.
(if your into it you could burn some sage or light a candle and maybe relax with some chill out music

guy's I don't start threads very often, I just think this is an important issue and one that should be noted.

6th

Very valid and worthy post. Wheather its energy i pick up there or becuase of the negative stuff which i discovered after the fact i for one know i need a session with a reiki healer or something like that.

cheers Solas

6th

Zillah

I was not at charleville the second time. To the best of my knowledge my emotions are not supernatural in origin.

stevenmu

Funny you should bring this up, I have been feeling odd today (only really when browsing boards though I think ?). Kind of like there's a lot of pressure building, or something is delicately balanced and is going to topple over, either forwards or backwards very soon. I think it's something external to me that I'm picking up on, not actually me myself.

solas

steven wrote:

Kind of like there's a lot of pressure building

thats exactly how it feels.
[edit: I thought the server was gonna blow ]

to Zillah, the energy I "sensed" from you last week felt that way, perhaps you don't consider it supernatural but cleansing should be a part of the process for those comming back from investigations, there's no harm in being aware of how the process works or how you can be influenced by it and if neccessary how to deal with it.

Btw: I picked up a lot of info regarding that energy, (the charleville one) might discuss it sometime.

tc folks

6th

stevenmu wrote:

.......Kind of like there's a lot of pressure building, or something is delicately balanced and is going to topple over, either forwards or backwards very soon.....

Funny feeling this might have something to do with me, am feeling weird lately and need to work on it.

Riamfada

I have exams next week so Im guessing the constant build up of pressure Ive been feeling the past two weeks relate to that.

solas

you folks are all amplified to me lol, just seem like theres a lot of very heightened senses around since ye came back. (like you've all been exposed to some form of radiation

Zillah

solas wrote:

to Zillah, the energy I "sensed" from you last week felt that way, perhaps you don't consider it supernatural but cleansing should be a part of the process for those comming back from investigations, there's no harm in being aware of how the process works or how you can be influenced by it and if neccessary how to deal with it.

Solas im not sure how clear I can make this, I've explained it before. Whatever "energy" you were sensing from me had nothing to do with me, I was in an excellent mood when you claimed to be sensing it. Not a single bit of what you're claiming is reciprocated, and I will ask that you stop claiming to be connected to my emotional/pyschic state.

stevenmu

So much for your not going on investigations plan

solas wrote:

there's no harm in being aware of how the process works or how you can be influenced by it and if neccessary how to deal with it.

That's a good idea for something to keep in mind next time. I've been thinking about trying to get people to spend a bit of time meditating during the night to raise our energy/frequency (it's always seemed to me that something has happened right after I try it anyway). I suppose deliberatly opening yourself up like that may have it's downsides aswell though that people should be aware of before trying it.

6th

solas wrote:

you folks are all amplified to me lol, just seem like theres a lot of very heightened senses around since ye came back. (like you've all been exposed to some form of radiation

Well i am very Carismatic

solas

K Zillah, just chill out ok.

steve wrote:

So much for your not going on investigations plan

ye, just wanted to thank you guys for the presents you brought back

I have a few questions too, about charleville.

6th wrote:

Well i am very Carismatic

<me thinks religious healers>

6th

Ask away.

solas

k, earlier I was going to go into detail about a situation in another thread but it feels someway connected to Charleville. I'm aware it may not be entirely relevant but I've a feeling there might be some synchronicites (sp) that might be applicable in some areas.
I haven't been to Charleville and I don't know too much about the story, I'm aware there was a girl who fell/or was pushed over the rail and that there was a guy involved too, for now I'm going to try and blank out those thoughts and give you what was on my mind earlier.

solas

I don't know first of all if there was any mention of guns or anyone being shot, or even if guns were in the possesion of anyone in charleville at any time but something which occured previously led to a shooting situation. It was something done as an act of "defense" but somehow it doesnt seem so straightforward.

apologies if this in drips and drabs. do any of you know anything about a situation like this?

6th

I'm currently looking into getting a guides book for the place (the one they use for walking tours of the place) but i do know it was a british strong hold so guns would definately have a bit of a place there alright. I'll see what i can find but it may not be quick.

Of course Grimes might "dig up" something quicker than me?

stevenmu

Kenneth probably knows more about the history than the rest of us, but it was the local english stronghold, so it's quite likely that at various stages people were either shot while attacking it, or shot as punishment for crimes against the crown.

There's also something more recent which comes to mind, but I'd be interested to see if you come up with any more detail before I mention what I'm thinking of.

solas

k, i've edited this message, the story is an actual incident that occured but is more appropriately discussed in the voodoun thread in spirituality.
I associated it with charleville because theres an underlying victim mentality which runs through both scenarios, the abused v's the abuser, regret and denial etc..its all very similar, where the senses are concerned.

stevenmu

Nowhere close to what I was thinking of (the dog was shot recently by a neighbour). The abusive man does sound right, but I don't know anything about the rest of it, Kenneth may be able to shed some light (but then again events as you describe them don't always make the history books).

solas

k, well thats all I got. The feeling anger is very much a result of the abuse that was endured there, thats the man. The sense of confusion is a result of regret through an incident where someone was killed.

I guess looking back thats about as much as anyone knows about charleville.

stormkeeper

Off the top of my head, I can't tie in anything to do with the abuse, regret, etc but I might need to go over there and see what I can find. Regarding any "presents", I'm not too sure about it to be honest, though that said, I have been feeling neutral these past few weeks, so I wouldn't know. There may have been a chance that the anxiety attack that I had a day or two ago could have been amplified by the energies, but I haven't a clue... I think I should cleanse myself to be sure, but I dunno how to... lol

stormkeeper

stevenmu wrote:

Funny you should bring this up, I have been feeling odd today (only really when browsing boards though I think ?). Kind of like there's a lot of pressure building, or something is delicately balanced and is going to topple over, either forwards or backwards very soon. I think it's something external to me that I'm picking up on, not actually me myself.

I noticed while I was reading this post, I had a little pressure in my head, though I dunno if it was always there today and I'm just noticing it now, or it flared up because I'm on here...

solas

I had a good sleep last night and things are a lot clearer this morning.
The stuff I recalled yesterday was something that I felt tied in with the charleville connection, I figure its not so much the scenario thats relevant but the feelings associated with it, the anger, feelings of abuse, regret and confusion. I think people might have an obscure understanding of what residual energy is and how it can affect us, more or less it is just like a transferal of that energy or those feelings, although subtely and might be perceived as nothing more than sligh agitation. (depending on how sensitve you are)

There's no harm in doing a cleansing anyway Andy, even when not hunting down ghosts, if your anyway sensitive at all its something that can be beneficial regualarly.
edit: I left some details on how to in the op.

stormkeeper

solas wrote:

I had a good sleep last night and things are a lot clearer this morning.
The stuff I recalled yesterday was something that I felt tied in with the charleville connection, I figure its not so much the scenario thats relevant but the feelings associated with it, the anger, feelings of abuse, regret and confusion. I think people might have an obscure understanding of what residual energy is and how it can affect us, more or less it is just like a transferal of that energy or those feelings, although subtely and might be perceived as nothing more than sligh agitation. (depending on how sensitve you are)

There's no harm in doing a cleansing anyway Andy, even when not hunting down ghosts, if your anyway sensitive at all its something that can be beneficial regualarly.
edit: I left some details on how to in the op.

I understand what you are saying, though I'm kind of odd with my emotions anyway in that I haven't a full handle on them (though I can for the most part), so I don't necessarily need external influences to have them be either erratic or amplified - I can very much do that on my own! That said, I still honestly don't know if I've ever been affected by those feelings. It's a possibility, yes but I haven't seen evidence of such at this moment, which I consider to be a good thing.

Regarding the cleansing, I absolutely agree, and when I get back home, I'll look at what methods you suggested to see what I'd be able to do in my room. Either way though, cheers for the advice.

solas

kennett wrote:

I understand what you are saying, though I'm kind of odd with my emotions anyway in that I haven't a full handle on them

yes, I recall you telling me you were adhd,

That said, I still honestly don't know if I've ever been affected by those feelings.

I remember previously you would discuss at length how you were often affected by the sensing of others emotions, even via the internet!

Over time (and with plenty of experience) I've learned how to differentiate my feelings from whats going on around me, its a little like just aknowledging others peoples issues are not mine to own.
Cleansing in this instance is just being able to stand back or remove yourself from the emotions of a particular situation, I guess its just a logical (or psychological) process thats handy to have anyway.

stormkeeper

solas wrote:

yes, I recall you telling me you were adhd,

Not ADHD per se, but Aspergers, though the symptoms of each overlap, or ADHD may be a comorbid symtom of Aspergers....

I remember previously you would discuss at length how you were often affected by the sensing of others emotions, even via the internet!

That is very true! I think I may have initially misworded what I meant to say, in that I was trying to say that those particular emotions didn't seem to affect me, though I could be wrong about that...

Over time (and with plenty of experience) I've learned how to differentiate my feelings from whats going on around me, its a little like just aknowledging others peoples issues are not mine to own.

I've yet to be able to do this, though I think I'm making progress, albeit relatively slowly, but it is progress nonetheless...

Cleansing in this instance is just being able to stand back or remove yourself from the emotions of a particular situation, I guess its just a logical (or psychological) process thats handy to have anyway.

I can kind of do this already. I've been known to emotionally shut down when I'm overwhelmed by emotions (I can also be emotionally detached), which is a double-edged sword really. I need to learn to deal with the "standing back" part a little better, as opposed to completely removing myself from emotions, because I get in the state where I cannot vent the current emotions, nor can I feel anything either...

Thankfully, this only happens in extreme situations, though I think I may end up doing it a lot less, because this coping mechanism has broken down somewhat...

solas

newly diagnosised? I remember the topic of add comming up years ago and I recall the associations especially in relation to the paranormal
I know its slightly off topic, but would be good to discuss it again in another thread sometime. You can share your special abilities with all of us

6th

this seems to be going off topic a bit or am i wrong - personal issues forum springs to mind?

solas

I was reading in the evp thread about the cross over between psychological perceptions and paranormal occurances. Maybe we could start a thread here and discuss it.
I remember reading a report stating higher incidents of paranormal activity in children diagnosed with add and other similarly related conditions, which discussed the development and activity of a section of the frontal lobes, other reports note the same symptoms in people with strong religious beliefs.
it would make an interesting discussion. Is it all in the mind or does it suggest an area responsible for esp?

Nevyn

It is not out of context for this forum imho.
Sometimes being slightly different means we look at and interpet the world in a slightly differnt way.

stormkeeper

solas wrote:

newly diagnosised? I remember the topic of add comming up years ago and I recall the associations especially in relation to the paranormal
I know its slightly off topic, but would be good to discuss it again in another thread sometime. You can share your special abilities with all of us

Nah, I've been diagnosed since I was about 4 or 5, if I recall. I've had some strange experiences as a child, which I'm generally wary of mentioning, in case people think I'm crazy, which doesn't help me all that much as I have never truely been comfortable with mentioning I've got a mental illness (however miled it is), in case people think I'm a freak. It does kind of also have the possibility that people might doubt what I say because I'm not "quite right in the head", though it tends not to affect me too much, all things considered. Sure, I'm eccentric and all that, but I'm not so crazy as to think that every noise could be paranormal... or at least I hope I'm not!

I was reading in the evp thread about the cross over between psychological perceptions and paranormal occurances. Maybe we could start a thread here and discuss it.

I'd definately be interested in discussing this... do you want to make the thread or shall I?

I remember reading a report stating higher incidents of paranormal activity in children diagnosed with add and other similarly related conditions, which discussed the development and activity of a section of the frontal lobes, other reports note the same symptoms in people with strong religious beliefs.

I'd be pretty interested to see the results of such studies. I've noticed for some time now that people with any form of disability or MI seem to generally have a heightened 6th sense compared to "regular" people, perhaps to make up for what they lack in other areas?

it would make an interesting discussion. Is it all in the mind or does it suggest an area responsible for esp?

Very much agreed. Perhaps I'll explain my experiences in more detail then...

Thaedydal wrote:

It is not out of context for this forum imho.
Sometimes being slightly different means we look at and interpet the world in a slightly differnt way.

I think that Mark would agree that I certainly do that!

solas

kennett wrote:

Nah, I've been diagnosed since I was about 4 or 5, if I recall. I've had some strange experiences as a child, which I'm generally wary of mentioning, in case people think I'm crazy, which doesn't help me all that much as I have never truely been comfortable with mentioning I've got a mental illness (however miled it is), in case people think I'm a freak. It does kind of also have the possibility that people might doubt what I say because I'm not "quite right in the head", though it tends not to affect me too much, all things considered. Sure, I'm eccentric and all that, but I'm not so crazy as to think that every noise could be paranormal... or at least I hope I'm not!

Is kinda why I brought it up, I figured it would be good to seperate fact from fiction.
Y'know i used to work in the field and there was one lad (7yrs) who's skills I found particularly impressive. His ability to say what others were thinking was marked
Afaik, aspergers is considered a condition, not a mental illness insofar as it is not particularly debilitating and is more often associated with higher levels of intelligence, not retardation. Often perceiving the world differently is a sign of genuis
Not trying to swell yer head now or anything lol, just trying to clear up some issues re the perception of mental illness conveyed in the evp thread.

I'd definately be interested in discussing this... do you want to make the thread or shall I?

if theres anything in particular you'd like to discuss feel free to start a new thread, as for the material referenced I'll have to do a bit of googling. I know that there have been many tests done which demonstrate heightened senses in areas where there is a deficiency,such a blindness or deafness, tho the area of defining what can be categorised as esp is always going to be a bit controversial. I'll see what I can find.

edit:as for sharing your experiences, I do my best to keep an open mind. if there's things you don't feel comfrtable discussing in public for fear of reprisal, my pm box has been emptied and is in full receiving mode I know katie and mark are both as wiling to listen and share as much too, so don't be afraid to just givus a shout.

Nevyn

I certainly would not see it as a mental illness, I don't see eplisy that way either.

solas

Thaed wrote:

I certainly would not see it as a mental illness, I don't see eplisy that way either.

I know its a bit OT, just wanted to share.I was reading a short article on shamanism earlier and I found this piece interesting.

"Professor Stanley Krippner is one of the worlds leading experts on shamanism and as part of his ongoing research, he has travelled the globe to meet these healers in their own tribes. One of Krippners reports details how a shaman was initiated into her own tribe in southern Africa.

At school Margaret Umblazi began to have seizures thought to be the result of epilepsy. Instead of trying to gain medical treatment for her seizures, Margarets tribal elders asked her about her "dream life" and she told them of a recurring dream that she had been having in which she was dragged to the bottom of a lake by a giant serpant. In her dreams however, everything was alright as she found she was able to breathe underwater. Her elders told her that the serpant was one of her ancestors and the lake into which she was being dragged represented the astral world. By showing that she could breathe underwater, Margaret had in effect been shown that she was able to survive in that other world and therefore had the makings of a shaman and she was duly trained to be a tribal healer."

stormkeeper

That's quite interesting...