Sky TV and colonialism...

02-05-2006 8:44am #1

...the Sland Arsenal game was on the telly yesterday and the co-commentator made some remark about where Sl'and got their players, and said Nosworthy was a free from Gillingham, Whitehead from Oxford, and Daryl Murphy was 'from the sticks in Ireland'...

:rolleyes:

Mossy Monk · 02-05-2006 8:50am

have you ever heard of someone being from the sticks?

i declare war

02-05-2006 8:54am

Mossy Monk wrote:

have you ever heard of someone being from the sticks?

Yes, plenty of times. I have also heard people being called 'savages', but if the Sky commentator said 'the Irish are savages' would you think it fine because it can sometimes be an appropriate description for someone?

chamlis · 02-05-2006 8:59am

Cry Hovok and let slip the Dogs of War

lukin · 02-05-2006 9:00am

Murphy's from Waterford, a place that hardly qualifies as "the sticks".

dar83 · 02-05-2006 9:08am

lukin wrote:

Murphy's from Waterford, a place that hardly qualifies as "the sticks".

Outside Dublin = The Sticks.

*fans flames*

Spalk0 · 02-05-2006 9:28am

Im surprised they didnt let slip "Son of a tarmac layer....."

War it is then:D

Sauce · 02-05-2006 10:19am

Let us gather all the people from the sticks and attack sky tv. Maybe we could get help from the boggers.

Now what could the weapon of choice be??????????????????????????????

Mossy Monk · 02-05-2006 10:31am

Deleted User wrote:

I have also heard people being called 'savages'

hardly the same as saying people are from the sticks though. i think i am not seeing something here

nitrogen · 02-05-2006 11:03am

Deleted User wrote:

...the Sland Arsenal game was on the telly yesterday and the co-commentator made some remark about where Sl'and got their players, and said Nosworthy was a free from Gillingham, Whitehead from Oxford, and Daryl Murphy was 'from the sticks in Ireland'...

:rolleyes:

Oh relax!

Spalk0 · 02-05-2006 11:09am

Sauce wrote:

Let us gather all the people from the sticks and attack sky tv. Maybe we could get help from the boggers.

Now what could the weapon of choice be??????????????????????????????

A couple of bags of spuds and golfing drivers?:D

02-05-2006 11:14am

nitrogen wrote:

Oh relax!

I am relaxed. I'm not screaming blue murder - hence the 'rolleyes' emoticon rather than an 'angry' one. It was just extremely stupid.

Dermington · 02-05-2006 12:44pm

Deleted User wrote:

I am relaxed. I'm not screaming blue murder - hence the 'rolleyes' emoticon rather than an 'angry' one. It was just extremely stupid.

chill out. its not the end of the world that some sky guy said something that offended someone. relax.

02-05-2006 12:48pm

Dermington wrote:

chill out. its not the end of the world that some sky guy said something that offended someone. relax.

Did you actually read my post. Try the first three words again.

Is this site only reserved for extremely serious stuff? I was making an observation, not advising a march on Sky HQ...

Davei141 · 02-05-2006 2:04pm

I think im offended.

simu · 02-05-2006 4:47pm

Uh.... wtf, OP?

WhiteWashMan · 02-05-2006 5:46pm

i wonder OP, would you be in a state of uproar if he had said the chap from Gillingham was from the sticks?

or is this just being really melodramatic.

it would seem that some people just live to get insulted by the smallest of things.

if you spend your entire life looking for insults, youll find them. whether they are meant or not.

time for a reality check methinks...

zAbbo · 02-05-2006 5:49pm

Was the commentator Irish?

02-05-2006 5:59pm

WhiteWashMan wrote:

i wonder OP, would you be in a state of uproar if he had said the chap from Gillingham was from the sticks?

or is this just being really melodramatic.

But I am neither 'in a state of uproar' or 'melodramatic' - merely commenting on what I thought was a poor phrase.

As for the analogy, I can't think of a Gillingham trait. But if, for example, he said that the player was from Liverpool and ergo stole hubcaps for a living before football, I would expect a few people in Liverpool to be dissatisfied and a certain amount of adverse comment.

02-05-2006 5:59pm

zabbo wrote:

Was the commentator Irish?

No. As English as jellied eels and pearly queens.

WhiteWashMan · 02-05-2006 6:18pm

but to be fair, he does come from the sticks.
i fail to see the insult.

more melodrama for melodrams sake tbh, but hey, at least you got your revenge withthe last comment you made eh?
hope you feel vindicated now.

02-05-2006 6:25pm

WhiteWashMan wrote:

more melodrama for melodrams sake tbh, but hey, at least you got your revenge withthe last comment you made eh?
hope you feel vindicated now.

Ah, now I see.

We should put up with being patronised, but stereotyping someone in England is outrageous!!

I believe they call it the 'tipping the cap' mentality...

Mossy Monk · 02-05-2006 7:08pm

but coming from the sticks isnt an insult, and how the fook is it stereotyping

WhiteWashMan · 02-05-2006 7:45pm

Deleted User wrote:

Ah, now I see.

We should put up with being patronised, but stereotyping someone in England is outrageous!!...

ah, so what i said was outrageous, but what you said wasnt even melodramatic?

come on now. lets gain a foothold on sanity here.

lets face it, you called the thread skyTV and colonialism. get over it.
850 years blah blah blah.
the man on the tele is patronising me, i must go and complain about it on an internet forum and let everyone know i am staunchly irish blah blah blah
im insulted to the nth degree blah blah blah
toicfaidh ar la blah blah blah

obviously not enough meaning in your life to be worrying about and getting on with if someone getting called coming from the sticks in ireland is at the front of your problems.

of course, im sure if it was on setanta, or good old TnG, sure it would have been a gas expression eh? shure, tis grand to be oirish begorah begorah top o the morning to ya!

over reacting much?

Gray · 02-05-2006 10:14pm

Don't get paranoid in England anyone not from the Smoke is from the Sticks, if he was being colonial he would have said from beyond the Pale

03-05-2006 8:22am

WhiteWashMan wrote:

sanity
850 years blah blah blah.
blah blah blah
im insulted to the nth degree blah blah blah
toicfaidh ar la blah blah blah
not enough meaning in your life to be worrying about
sure it would have been a gas expression eh?
shure, tis grand to be oirish begorah begorah top o the morning to ya!

over reacting much?

I bow to your undoubted expertise in the melodrama and overreacting departments...

It was a mild observation by me. To link it to (i) 850 years (ii) my life, of which you know nothing about (iii) the IRA and (iv) the 'Oirish' routine is slightly hysterical on your part. Relax. Chill out. Not everything on this site has to be a deep and serious comment on life.

WhiteWashMan · 03-05-2006 11:14am

im aware of that.
im just a little peed at the moment at the level of perceived antagonism from english media etc towards the irish.

i definately think there is a very thinned skinned pressure pad that most irish people have.

or maybe i just take it too personally becuase i my old man was english and i see perceived slights at these perceived slights!

who knows.

maybe i should just not mod anymore.

bullrunner · 03-05-2006 11:39am

anybody else dislike the way the english tv presenters pronounce Ireland as 'Island' ??

maybe we should stress the IRE part to them!!

Mossy Monk · 03-05-2006 12:12pm

accents

03-05-2006 12:19pm

WhiteWashMan wrote:

i definately think there is a very thinned skinned pressure pad that most irish people have.

Possibly alright. And I can be guilty of it too - my particular bugbear is the 'Mick and Paddy' stuff, which I hate. But I assure you I was merely observing this time round - to use the football analogy it wasn't a red card offence by the commentator, but maybe a word in his ear from the ref...;)

squire1 · 03-05-2006 1:23pm

It's a mildly valid point Conor but to be honest, I for one am sick to the teeth of all this PC stuff. Whatever happened to a sense of humour. I didn't hear the comment but I'd be fairly sure it was just meant in a funny rather than insulting manner.

I know you are just pointing it out but ask yourself this and answer honestly, was it the fact that it was an English person saying it that bothered you? If Micheal O Muirihertig (sp?) said it on the Sunday Game would it bother you or would you laugh at it?

He is from the sticks, so am I, so what.

WhiteWashMan · 03-05-2006 1:45pm

bring back jimmy mcgee and his marvelous commentaries?

after a testicle threatening tackle - 'and that will rattle the ol onion sack!'

or, i dont recall who it was, but i do recall him saying someone was from the sticks of kerry.

but dont et me wrong, i live in england, and i get wound up by the stereotypical 'top of the morning to ya' rubbish i get every day i go into work.

im still trying to let it slide, but if im tired in the morning, the response will usually be 'top of the fck off and die to ya'.

i guess its just easier for me to be tolerant on here, although god bless me, there are some people i want to throttle.

03-05-2006 5:13pm

squire1 wrote:

I know you are just pointing it out but ask yourself this and answer honestly, was it the fact that it was an English person saying it that bothered you? If Micheal O Muirihertig (sp?) said it on the Sunday Game would it bother you or would you laugh at it?

If Micheal were to say that Padraig Joyce is from Galway, Ciarán Whelan from Dublin and Billy Joe Padden 'from the sticks' in Mayo, I would expect Mayo people to take notice and/or comment.

WhiteWashMan wrote:

or, i dont recall who it was, but i do recall him saying someone was from the sticks of kerry.

The fecker! That's my county he's insulting. While I'll let the Sky one slide past, I'm off to stalk Jimmy...

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