Leinster Supporters

Lisapeep

Having been at the Munster vs Leinster match in Landsdown Road on Sunday, I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions as to why the stadium was filled with approximately three quarters Munster supporters, one quarter Leinster supporters? How did the Leinster supporters end up being so outnumbered?

I think that even if Leinster did have more supporters, that they would still have been outdone in terms of vocal support, singing etc. I have to say that I was a bit disappointed!

Crash

pff, i just ignored it and roared my ass off tried to swear less than i normally would though - there was a dad with his small son beside me

Snickers Man

Actually there were loads of Leinster Supporters there. The East Stand side was about 50 50, the North Terrace was nearly all Leinster. The West stand side was harder to determine because that was where all the corporate seats were.

Munster made more noise because they had more to cheer about.

That's it.

ferdi

on tv, all the supporters seemed to be wearing red, it was hard to pick out any leinster supporters...

Amazotheamazing

Red shows up on tv better than blue (seriously) so you cant trust tv images.

Keedowah

I heard the Leinster numbers were down because of the sale in Brown Thomas!

(only messin!)

Lisapeep

ferdi wrote:

on tv, all the supporters seemed to be wearing red, it was hard to pick out any leinster supporters...

What you saw on TV was accurate. I was in the East stand and it was pretty much full of just Munster supporters. There was the odd Leinster fan in amongst them but we were a rare species on that side of the stadium.

It's true, each team had its own terrace of supporters, but walking down the road both before and after the match, it was a sea of red - no Leinster supporters to be seen anywhere! Leinster fans were definitely outnumbered, no doubt about it!

Snickers Man

ferdi wrote:

on tv, all the supporters seemed to be wearing red, it was hard to pick out any leinster supporters...

You don't know, Man, coz you weren't there :mad:

PowerHouseDan

It did look like it was 3/4 Munster i was in the South Terrace... Full of Munster Obviously.. there was a few Leinster on the East... a large group in the east terrace.. And the North Terrace full of Leinster...

Lisapeep

PowerHouseDan wrote:

It did look like it was 3/4 Munster ...

So, any ideas why?

Snickers Man

Maybe this thread should be: Why do more Munster fans than Leinster fans wear replica jerseys? If you're just going by blue v red then that would be the fairer question.

I have been going regularly to Leinster matches for the past 10 years (ie for as long as I've lived here) but don't have a replica shirt. There always seems to be something else more important to buy. (Like match tickets)

Maybe the price pressures of living in Dublin are such that the amount of disposable income one has for peripheral purchases (ie over and above things like season ticket purchases) is less here than there.

Shock!! Horror!! Limerick skangers have more cash to spend on supporting their rugby team than many Leinster people.

I just throw it out as a suggestion, that's all.

Lisapeep

Well 3/4s of the stadium was full of people wearing red so I think that its fair enough to assume that these were mostly Munster supporters. Whatever the Leinster fans were wearing (replica jerseys or not), I presume not too many of them were wearing red.

Essentially the Munster jersey-wearers outnumbered the Leinster jersey-wearers AND the "not wearing any jersey" types combined.

Crash

I knew i shouldnt have worn my red rag week tshirt going to the match! *slaps forehead*

heheh

kermitdfrog

Of course Leinster fans were outnumbered - but the majority of the NT was Leinster, and 3/4 of the West stand, as well as 1/4 or so of the East Stand, and then portions of the East terrace. Still, we were defintely outnumbered, about 2/1 I'd say. Why? Well that's easy. Firstly, Munster has more fans. Secondly, there are loads of Munster folk living in Leinster/Dublin, playing for Leinster clubs, going to Leinster games etc, so some Leinster tickets got into Munster hands. You dont get the same number of Leinster folk in Cork/Limerick etc, so they werent getting tickets meant for Munster fans

Unshelved

Oh please, can someone tell that Brown Thomas joke again? It just gets funnier every time:rolleyes:

I thought that there were as many Leinster as Munster supporters there. We're just not as loud as Munster and red definitely shows up better. It was about 50/50 on the East Terrace where I was, with mostly Munster on the North and Leinster on the South.

Oh and btw, is it really necessary to point out to other supporters that Dublin isn't Leinster and D4 isn't Dublin? I got really bored with "hilarious" Munster fans doing Ross O'Carroll Kelly accents before, during and after the match. Almost as tired as the BT's joke or comments about Stab City.

Good luck in Cardiff Munster - third time unlucky would be too much to bear!

RuggieBear

pfft

Lisapeep

RuggieBear wrote:

pfft

What's that supposed to mean?

PowerHouseDan

I was out with alot of Leinster fans on the sat night wat a laugh!!!At one stage leinster had a good chant going on but munster took over!Great atmosphere for rugby though for whatever team

RuggieBear

Lisapeep wrote:

What's that supposed to mean?

it means did you not make enough noise supporting whichever team you support and not give a flying ****/notice if the people beside you wearing blue, red, quiet, loud, obnoxious, smelly....or the amount of them.

Why be dissapointed? As long ass you made as much noise as you could...why care?

Nobody near me was louder than me and i stopped many a munster chant dead in its tracks.

Besides there are only about 4000-6000 real Leinster fans. Tbh, judging by Musgrave Park and Thomand park crowds this season in the celtic league, i reckon there's probably not even twice as many real munster fans.

wingnut

One thing I can think of is that there would be more Munster ex pats involved in Dublin branch clubs then vice versa. Munster fans would move to Dublin for work and get involved with clubs up there and tickets through the clubs. Sorry to hear about the D4 crowd fallen on such hard times that they can't afford a replica shirt. How much is Heroine these days?

Amazotheamazing

Lads, whats does this achieve, sly digs on each side, referring to Limerick people as skangers, same old jokes about D4/O'Carroll-Kelly, sniping about how many real fans each team has, if it makes ye happy both sides are showing the churlish qualities that was happily lacking between the fans yesterday.

Trampas

Why were people who are born and live in Leinster with no connections to Munster going around wearing Munster jerseys??

I would support Munster in every other game bar playing against Leinster.

Lisapeep

Trampas wrote:

Why were people who are born and live in Leinster with no connections to Munster going around wearing Munster jerseys??

Yes I noticed this too. I think it's cool to support Munster at the moment. I know a few people from Leinster who were supporting Munster because they wanted to be supporting the winning side! :eek:

Amazotheamazing

Trampas wrote:

Why were people who are born and live in Leinster with no connections to Munster going around wearing Munster jerseys??

I would support Munster in every other game bar playing against Leinster.

Honestly? I partly blame Paul Howard, he advanced the D4 stereotype with Ross O'Carroll-Kelly and it's really pigeonholed Leinster into being a team representing a corner of Dublin, rather than the province as a whole. Why should a "working class" person suport Leinster, when many of their jokes (Paul Howard etc) are on some level about laughing at the lower middle-class/working class Dubliner.

It's not enough to say, "You're from Dublin, follow Leinster" becuase rugby isn't a popular enough sport for many people to have been raised on it a la the GAA. People see no reason to support them, other than geographic accident, and in rugby's case, geographic accident isn't a compelling enough argument.

Amazotheamazing

Lisapeep wrote:

Yes I noticed this too. I think it's cool to support Munster at the moment. I know a few people from Leinster who were supporting Munster because they wanted to be supporting the winning side! :eek:

In light of Ruggie's joke about Munster support, I'll rehash an oldie but a goodie.

"Leinster aren't the most popular team in Ireland at the minute, hell Leinster aren't even the most popular team in Leinster at the minute"

RuggieBear

which joke by me?

Amazotheamazing

RuggieBear wrote:

which joke by me?

I assume you were joking about Munster's real support being circa 3,000. Munster Cl average in TP is 6,375 and in MP it's 6,040 (according to my rough figures).

RuggieBear

Amazotheamazing wrote:

I assume you were joking about Munster's real support being circa 3,000. Munster Cl average in TP is 6,375 and in MP it's 6,040 (according to my rough figures).

Oh no you misunderstood me...i'm estimating that Munster's core support is 7000-10000 (In and around twice that of Leinster's).

But judging by your figures it's not even that.

Amazotheamazing

It's probably close to 5,000 in each city. No-ones really sure of the numbers that travel to every game.

RuggieBear

10,000 sounds about right.

Amazotheamazing

Makes you wonder why Thomond Park will soon be 26,000 though. Hopefully if we build it, they will come.

panda100

Usually I get my tickets down in Limerick but got them from the Leinster Branch this time.Couldnt believe it when they handed me the tickets cos they gave me these two piecesof paper with it telling me the words to a Leinster song and to sing Molly Malone to out roar the munster supporters.
Then there was a list of things to do to help support Leinster e.g putting flags up etc etc.
I think this just shows the diference in the fans really.No one in Limerick or down in Munster needs to be told how to shout on their team wheras Leinstre supporters generally are a bit more reserved,a bit like French supporters.

RuggieBear

Amazotheamazing wrote:

Makes you wonder why Thomond Park will soon be 26,000 though.

for the large bandwagon

Sangre

Know a load of Munster people who got Leinster tickets.

LostinBlanch

So we'll see if the IRFU stick to their word then and ban Leinster clubs who sold tickets to Munster fans from getting international tickets for international matches (probably some of the Autumn internationals rather than the 6 nations next year).

I'm not holding my breath though

Chucky the tree

If a munster person is plays in a leinster club why shouldnt he be allowed a ticket? should he not be given one becuase he has a country accent? or when going up to buy his ticket he has to wear a leinster jersey?

Any post of the thread goes to snickers man trying to imply that leinsters fans cant afford the jersey, classic.

Crash

Chucky the tree wrote:

Any post of the thread goes to snickers man trying to imply that leinsters fans cant afford the jersey, classic.

I'm a leinster fan and i cant afford a jersey at the mo. hell i'm wearing jeans that are a few years old at this stage. LOL LETS MAKE D4 JOKES LOL HAHAHA.

witty idiots. :rolleyes:

Hermione*

Jerseys are about €80 ffs. If it wasn't for the fact that I badgered my parents into buying me one for Christmas, I wouldn't have one. My Dad was so upset at the thought that he used to have a drawer full of munster jerseys when he was my age, and now he had to hand over nearly €100 to get one for me ... serious amount of sucking up ensued after opening that present I can tell you!

Chucky the tree

&#231 wrote: »

I'm a leinster fan and i cant afford a jersey at the mo. hell i'm wearing jeans that are a few years old at this stage. LOL LETS MAKE D4 JOKES LOL HAHAHA.

witty idiots. :rolleyes:

yet munster fans are rolling around in money so thats how they can afford a jersey? Munster fans make any scrafies to buy a jersey. Even the "bandwagon" Munster fans will have jerseys. Its just a different mentality between the two fans.

Crash

So i'm not a diehard fan because i dont have a jersey? tell you what, next time i'm at home shouting at the screen, in the pub shouting at the screen and getting asked by my local barmen to shut the **** up, or at a match shouting my lungs out, then you can tell me that i've "just got a different mentality to munster fans" - i dont get this superiority complex some of your lot try so hard to engender over leinster fans - granted a lot of ours are quiet, dont cheer etc. but the simple fact is that I was standing there as Halstead went over the line with my head buried in my leinster flag- does it make it worth less that i got it for free rather than paying for it by the way? just to check like...

Big Ears

&#231 wrote: »

LOL LETS MAKE D4 JOKES LOL HAHAHA.

witty idiots. :rolleyes:

I know why there weren't as many leinster fans at the game..................there was a sale in Brown Thomas .

Chucky the tree

&#231 wrote: »

So i'm not a diehard fan because i dont have a jersey? tell you what, next time i'm at home shouting at the screen, in the pub shouting at the screen and getting asked by my local barmen to shut the **** up, or at a match shouting my lungs out, then you can tell me that i've "just got a different mentality to munster fans" - i dont get this superiority complex some of your lot try so hard to engender over leinster fans - granted a lot of ours are quiet, dont cheer etc. but the simple fact is that I was standing there as Halstead went over the line with my head buried in my leinster flag- does it make it worth less that i got it for free rather than paying for it by the way? just to check like...

When did i say you werent a diehard fan for not having a jersey?

We have a superiority complex because we know were better then you.

I just found snickers mans comment rather funny, implying that munster fans have more disposable income then leinsters fans, so thats why we buy jerseys.

I dont own a munster jersey even. Does it mean i am not a fan? of course not. Same as you. As you said, leinster fans are quieter and dont cheers as much, doesnt mean they dont love leinster. Its just leinster people seem to have a different mentality about supporting there team.

Crash

Heh, i actually got really pissy at the leinster bath game in the RDS because no one, and i mean no one, other than myself, my brother and a five year old were cheering. it was sad

youcancallmeal

What really pi**ed me off today wasn't the fact that all the Munster lads in work were giving loads and still wearing their beer soaked jerseys from yesterday but that a load of double decker Dublin buses all of a sudden now have Munster(Toyota) advertisements on them. If leinster had won yesterday I somehow doubt buses in Cork/Limerick city would be sporting Leinsters hoardings today?

RuggieBear

If it annoys you so much don't buy a Toyota next time you are looking for a car:D

I'm sure if Leinster were successful and Bank of Scotland Ireland were opening a branch in Cork and Limerick you'd have blue adverts with BOD and Den on it.

rugbug86

oh cos that joke wasn't already posted :rolleyes:

I was at the match, north terrace, surrounded by munsters. i shouted my head off for the entire match.

munster fans are unbelievable tho, i've been going to rugby matches all my life and i never heard noise like i heard in landsdowne yesterday. makes me want to go to cardiff. now whether to use the ticket i have or give it to my uncle...!

PowerHouseDan

Neither give it to me Rug Bug :P

PowerHouseDan

go to google and type leinster supporters club

besty

PowerHouseDan wrote:

go to google and type leinster supporters club

Ha, that's quite funny.

Snickers Man

Chucky the tree wrote:

Any post of the thread goes to snickers man trying to imply that leinsters fans cant afford the jersey, classic.

As my post said, I threw it out as a suggestion that's all.

I know it's low down the list of my priorities at the moment. I'd rather be at the game in the first place than meet the dress code.



Less of the personal abuse please.
Amz

Snickers Man

Fair enough Amz.

Let's put cards on the table. I'm still totally pissed off by Sunday's result. It really hurts.

But I admire Munster's supporters for their passion and I do really hope they lift the trophy in Cardiff in May. They deserve it for the effort and passion they've invested in the competition over the years.

I've promised the two tickets I bought to a Munster relative.

And I would really love a Munster Leinster HC return in Thomond next year where we would have a crack at taking that unbeaten record. That would nearly make up for things.