remaping ecu

KELTICKNIGHTT

looking for place to remap ecu as there a flat spot in pickup
cheers

DirtyDog

http://www.logicautomotive.ie/

Peter will sort you out

maidhc

The manufacturer?

They generally update the ECU firmware periodically, but you might have a different problem too.

drdre

maidhc wrote:

The manufacturer?

They generally update the ECU firmware periodically, but you might have a different problem too.

i think the original poster is looking for extra bhp.;) , also i have heard that http://www.logicautomotive.ie/ id good.but i have never used them.

KELTICKNIGHTT

DirtyDog wrote:

http://www.logicautomotive.ie/

Peter will sort you out

cheers for that

drdre

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote:

looking for place to remap ecu as there a flat spot in pickup
cheers

what car do you have that you want to get remapped?
also what benifits does it have to the car other then improve bhp.

5500

Whats the make/model engine size ect?

KELTICKNIGHTT

jeep cherokee 2002 2.5 crd diesel commerical

KELTICKNIGHTT

got it done to my scoda octivia 1.9 tdi 2.5 yrs ago by mc namaras in dublin,dont think they around anymore

DirtyDog

Peter in logic has the distribution for upsolute, here's the improvements for your car with a bit of an ecu remap

http://www.upsolute.com/eng/index.html

drdre

DirtyDog wrote:

Peter in logic has the distribution for upsolute, here's the improvements for your car with a bit of an ecu remap

http://www.upsolute.com/eng/index.html

the remapping is interesting.how much do you think it would cost to remap a gti to 240bhp.
http://www.upsolute.com/eng/index.html

ando

drdre wrote:

the remapping is interesting.how much do you think it would cost to remap a gti to 240bhp.
http://www.upsolute.com/eng/index.html

about 3 or 400 I'd say off the top of my head for an upsolute generic remap. Remaps in the UK (REVO) go for about £450 but they have the ability to go stock with the flick of a switch. I'd say a custom remap would cost a good bit more

drdre

ando wrote:

about 3 or 400 I'd say off the top of my head for an upsolute generic remap. Remaps in the UK (REVO) go for about £450 but they have the ability to go stock with the flick of a switch. I'd say a custom remap would cost a good bit more

yeah but i have heard revo and apr are really good.so i would think if i get a golf gti i would rather get it done from uk than here as theres more choice over there.but still 4-500 is not that bad for a 40bhp increase.

DirtyDog

I've had mine done already, big difference - but you have to get use to it as flooring it will just leave you and your tyres at the lights! But once you master it its fantastic

KELTICKNIGHTT

this my third remapping
first was in uk by superchips,what asetup
second was nc namaras in dublin ,who where agents for superchips,wasnt impressed as had to take back twice to get it right,so wouldnt be going to them,there is acouple in munster,but not impressed from what l heard about them
want to improve pickup and get rid of flat spot
most say 30% to 45% improvement which is alot depending on car
from what l have read,dealer do remap,but improvement are poor as they want you back son for service

KELTICKNIGHTT

DirtyDog wrote:

I've had mine done already, big difference - but you have to get use to it as flooring it will just leave you and your tyres at the lights! But once you master it its fantastic

did you get from above guy

DirtyDog

I did, in fact this is my 3rd time back with him

KELTICKNIGHTT

drdre wrote:

yeah but i have heard revo and apr are really good.so i would think if i get a golf gti i would rather get it done from uk than here as theres more choice over there.but still 4-500 is not that bad for a 40bhp increase.

most of them charge between 350-450 euros which isnt bad
mcnamaras charged 700 euros up which was a lot

KELTICKNIGHTT

DirtyDog wrote:

I did, in fact this is my 3rd time back with him

different cars

drdre

people and reviews say 30% more power.but its not always right.

why donot you just go back to superchip.are they really good.any website for them

KELTICKNIGHTT

dont seem to have local agent anymore
mc where,dont know if they still are

maidhc

Did you get any injector problems from the Octy? how about smoke?

KELTICKNIGHTT

maidhc wrote:

Did you get any injector problems from the Octy? how about smoke?

no,just wanted to most out of it without more mpg
now have slight flat spot with jeep ,my friend whos does rallying ,told me by remapping it will get rid of it of it,lived usa for 10 yrs and got any commerical remaped and did improve all around without burning more fuel

DirtyDog

Sorry was out last night - I've had 3 golf's done - 2 new TDI's (1.9 & 2.0) and a new GTI

No problems with any of them.

KELTICKNIGHTT

dirtydog,WILL make apointment with peter on monday

drdre

DirtyDog wrote:

Sorry was out last night - I've had 3 golf's done - 2 new TDI's (1.9 & 2.0) and a new GTI

No problems with any of them.

dirtydog what did you get done to your new gti.also how much did it cost you.

Big Balls

700 quid is normal really.. Revo charge the same.

If somewhere else is cheaper then there's a reason - with Upsolute it's less power than Superchips or Revo, for example.

DirtyDog

BB has a point it is less BHP than the others, but I have to say its more than enough - as I said earlier its hard enough to get what I power I have down as it is

Chip cost me 400 and v happy with it AGAIN!

drdre

DirtyDog wrote:

BB has a point it is less BHP than the others, but I have to say its more than enough - as I said earlier its hard enough to get what I power I have down as it is

Chip cost me 400 and v happy with it AGAIN!

yes i have heard revo and superchip are good

whats the upgrade bhp for the vw golf gti.what model do you have the latest or the mark 4
any website links to the increase of bhp on a vw 2005 gti.

DirtyDog

Its mkV and now up to 245 bhp ..

Check out the upgrade's at the site:
http://www.upsolute.com/eng/index.html

drdre

DirtyDog wrote:

Its mkV and now up to 245 bhp ..

Check out the upgrade's at the site:
http://www.upsolute.com/eng/index.html

also the website states 240bhp, is that increase just from chip or did you change the induction kit.
also does this chip have a switch to change it back to normal settings eg the 200 bhp.
also does it increase fuel economy.

and the final question is have you informed insurance company and if yes did the insurance quote increase.
thanks and so sorry for all the questions:D

Delta_ie

Should try Westward Engineering ( www.westwardeng.com ), they are an official revo dealer and also have rolling roads for better tuning.

Trackday Performance ( www.tdp.ie ) are also another that can do diesel tuning and have very good facilities, dynapack etc...

drdre

Delta_ie wrote:

Should try Westward Engineering ( www.westwardeng.com ), they are an official revo dealer and also have rolling roads for better tuning.

Trackday Performance ( www.tdp.ie ) are also another that can do diesel tuning and have very good facilities, dynapack etc...

yes friends have said that westward are good.so i will call them to get a qupte and see what they say.

DirtyDog

drdre wrote:

also the website states 240bhp, is that increase just from chip or did you change the induction kit.

No didnt get the induction kit and 240 is an average figure - tbh I think mine might be about 242

drdre wrote:

also does this chip have a switch to change it back to normal settings eg the 200 bhp.

no, if you want to go back to stock they can do it, but they have to reflash the ecu

drdre wrote:

also does it increase fuel economy.

They say it doesnt but to be honest I cant see how it doesnt, the thing rips along!!

drdre wrote:

and the final question is have you informed insurance company and if yes did the insurance quote increase.
thanks and so sorry for all the questions:D

I didnt tell them, I keep meaning to ring them and find out whats the increase (if any) for it...

drdre wrote:

thanks and so sorry for all the questions:D

No worries

drdre

thanks for answering the questions dirtydog.

DirtyDog

No worries

KELTICKNIGHTT

got 2 car remapped by superchips
once in dublin which was distaster and had to go to superchips in uk and was first class and second car superchips in uk and cost me 800 euros,to wasnt worth it as l comepare to a guy who got remapped by another ,wasnt much of difference,depends on car
for me ,have slight flat spot when picking up speed ,by remapping ,would get rid of it and get a better performance,for 400,would be worth it,not for7-800 euros
could get a tuning box for less
just my 2 cents

drdre

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote:

got 2 car remapped by superchips
once in dublin which was distaster and had to go to superchips in uk and was first class and second car superchips in uk and cost me 800 euros,to wasnt worth it as l comepare to a guy who got remapped by another ,wasnt much of difference,depends on car
for me ,have slight flat spot when picking up speed ,by remapping ,would get rid of it and get a better performance,for 400,would be worth it,not for7-800 euros
could get a tuning box for less
just my 2 cents

yeah id rather pay the extra and not get a tuning box.i would go for revo as i have heard alot of good stuff about them on the net regarding vw golf gti's im not sure anout other cars.but i would only pay max 500 i wouldnt pay around 800.

KELTICKNIGHTT

have tryed tuning box before,as you not great
will give a few call and see what they charge and offer
have checked there websites and we see
logic auto and westward seem good,asked around today ,will call them and check on others

KELTICKNIGHTT

just rang westward and they only would install tuning box and not ecu
have to head to belfast to superchips and would cost 800 euros
havent been able to get hold of tpe
got hold of logic-auto[peter]
he was helpful,and no bull
told what he can and cant do
would remap for €400 and take 4 hrs to do
one could argue that superchips is better,but not at that cost and as its a jeep and want to get rid of flat spot which is common in jeep,remapping would get rid of it and get 30bhp as well ,if l used superchips,would cost me 800 euros and may give me more power,not really looking for more power ,onl get rid of flat spot
will keep you informed

drdre

why pay 800 for superschips if you can get it done from dublin for 400.

also why can they not remap the ecu.and who is the dealer for superchip in belfast.
thanks

KELTICKNIGHTT

lm going with peter in logic-auto for 400 euros
got superchips in belfast off superchips.co.uk website
mcnamaras used to be only superchip agent in ireland and and doesnt seem to be anymore
so belfasrt is closest
was told by someone there was agent in cork for them.but doesnt say that on website

KELTICKNIGHTT

drdre wrote:

why pay 800 for superschips if you can get it done from dublin for 400.

also why can they not remap the ecu.and who is the dealer for superchip in belfast.
thanks

westward wouldnt say why they wouldnt remap ecu in jeep ,only to say they only fit tuning boxes and they cost 490 fitted or take way for same price,so they out

Henry Ford III

DirtyDog wrote:

(Insurance).....I didnt tell them, I keep meaning to ring them and find out whats the increase (if any) for it...

I suggest you need to do this as a matter of some urgency. Your cover may be invalid.

KELTICKNIGHTT

ok
have called 5 places
only got good feed back from 2
logic-auto and autoremap
both told as it is ,without the polish talk

both places have done jeeps before

KELTICKNIGHTT

rang insurance,and gave them details of engineers report on remapping and why and was told no increase will be on policy

drdre

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote:

rang insurance,and gave them details of engineers report on remapping and why and was told no increase will be on policy

:eek: Thats excellent.does the remapper give you an engineers report.
thats really good news but what company us that with.

KELTICKNIGHTT

got local engineer to read the data by company and sumit a e-mail to me and l sent it to insurance and they said ok
as the data show it improve car and not give it higher top end speed ,as dat show it only improves what there already,in some countrys ecu are down graded to match climate and there grade of fuels
plus dealers do it to get you to get more services with them

Henry Ford III

Hang on a second.

If the remap is designed to increase power, the top speed will increase. If it's designed to increase torque, the in gear acceleration times will improve. either way some element of performance will be increased. Otherwise you wouldn't bother doing it presumably.

I suggest you get a response in writing as any motor underwriter who knows what they are doing, will realise that increased peformance brings increased risk. If a claim occurs and liability is refused, relying on something said on the phone is worthless.

Furthermore the standard suspension, steering, transmission, and brakes are only designed to be able to handle the standard engine output.

I think this is a very ropey area.

KELTICKNIGHTT

Henry Ford III wrote:

Hang on a second.

If the remap is designed to increase power, the top speed will increase. If it's designed to increase torque, the in gear acceleration times will improve. either way some element of performance will be increased. Otherwise you wouldn't bother doing it presumably.

I suggest you get a response in writing as any motor underwriter who knows what they are doing, will realise that increased peformance brings increased risk. If a claim occurs and liability is refused, relying on something said on the phone is worthless.

Furthermore the standard suspension, steering, transmission, and brakes are only designed to be able to handle the standard engine output.

I think this is a very ropey area.

It doesnt increase top end speed,only improve between gear changes which lessen and its a software upgrade and not hardware,same power,so touque also improves
had this debate long time ago
all this upgrade does is tell the ecu when to get fuel and other controls
data was on e-mail and not phone,and insurance company was happy with it
and has nothing to do with brakes etc
only doing it to get rid of flat spot in pickup as its a bug with software only,read first post

Henry Ford III

If it's solely a fuel economy thing that makes perfect sense.

However increased torque = improved pull and in gear acceleration which is a
change in performance characteristics.

I did read your original post btw.

We may have to at best agree to disagree here, but I know quite a bit about insurance (mainly non motor admittedly) and the only reason I posted was concern over the continuing validity of your cover.