pic viewers

melekalikimaka

I'm looking for one of those mp3/picture views where i can either connect my camera to it and copy pics over or read sd's? seen a few but they seem pretty crap, or mad expensive, i think the ipods do it but i'm really quite anti ipod and they're disgracefully priced. any recommendations?

Shrimp

how serious of a photographer are you that you need this?

Shiny

It would nearly make more sense to get
a laptop and a card reader.

but then again you cant fit a laptop in
you jacket pocket.

But if i had to choose I would go for an
iriver.

leinsterman

Shiny wrote:

But if i had to choose I would go for an
iriver.

I have the H340 ... marvellous little 40Gb MP3 with support for video (avi), mp3. wav, flac, monkeys, wma, ogg and just about any codec you'd want for music ... also has radio and recorder ... and can do jpg slide shows ...

one small compaint is it only has USB host 1.1 ... which is slow if you use 2GB cards and shoot a high proportion of RAW like me ... can't remember exactly but I think it takes well over 1 hour to back up 2GB pro CF card ...

... you would be better finding a player supporting USB host 2.0 ... but if money is a problem I'd say you would pick up the H340 cheap ...

... just to be clear my H340 also supports USB 2.0 for reading/writing with PC host ... but not for host/on-the-go connection to a card reader/camera ...

leinsterman

Shiny wrote:

But if i had to choose I would go for an
iriver.

I have the H340 ... marvellous little 40Gb MP3 with support for video (avi), mp3. wav, flac, monkeys, wma, ogg and just about any codec you'd want for music ... also has radio and recorder ... and can do jpg slide shows ...

one small compaint is it only has USB host 1.1 ... which is slow if you use 2GB cards and shoot a high proportion of RAW like me ... can't remember exactly but I think it takes well over 1 hour to back up 2GB pro CF card ...

... you would be better finding a player supporting USB host 2.0 ... but if money is a problem I'd say you would pick up the H340 cheap ...

... just to be clear my H340 also supports USB 2.0 for reading/writing with PC host ... but not for host/on-the-go connection to a card reader/camera ...

EireRoadUser

I've got the ipod accessorie for downloading from the camera ,forget it its slow and by the time you download a 1GB card the ipod dies.

Personally i'd stay clear of devices like that for another year or so ,there still overpriced. You can get devices a lot cheaper that just hold your photos but don't have a colour screen ,plus the battery lasts aswell.

EDIT: heres a link for such a yoke http://www.technikdirekt.de/main/en/computer/digitale-speichermedien/mobile-datentraeger/861880/-/Article.html?fillspace=1

melekalikimaka

Shrimp wrote:

how serious of a photographer are you that you need this?

I've only a tiny card, so i can't take that many pictures, and i go to a fair few gigs where i take alot, i dont want a dedicated one, i'm looking for a new mp3/video player too, and i was just seeing if i could sort out the small card issue too.

Fajitas!

Trust me, if you're doing gigs, your better off getting more memory! You don't wanna be stuck uploading pics while you miss some great shots!

EireRoadUser

I really would wait if i was you ,if you're determine to get a vid/mp3 player try and hold off for a while.

Shrimp

Ok well if you want a vid/mp3 player dont buy one thats good at been a stroage device. Anyway you've answered your own problem... You've got a tiny card. Get a 1 or 2 gig card and you will be fine. Also, Try and think a bit before you take so many, more then likely, useless photos!

EireRoadUser

Whenever I take shots in theatre and where there's coloured lighting ,I always take 4 shots for every shot if i can. A lot of the time what you'd think is a great shot is shaken ,I suppose though anyone doing these photos knows this anyways .

King Eric

Shrimp wrote:

Also, Try and think a bit before you take so many, more then likely, useless photos!

from DotOrg's FAQ on Music Photography

"And by simply taking lots and lots of pictures. The more you shoot, the more pictures you'll get in focus. If you don't take lots of pictures, you won't have lots of great pictures."

I do lots of gig photography too, and iv learned thru experience that because im shooting in low light conditions and because the lights are changing all the time, the best way to get good photos is to take loads of photos and pick out the best ones afterwards.

Fajitas!

Agreed, I'll always shoot off as many as I can. I used up a 512MB card when I while shooting American Headcharge in the 15-20 minutes I had in the press pit. Ended up with some useless shots, but ended up with some great shots too, that I mightn't have gotten had I not taken so many! Every gig I do, I expect to come home with full cards.

EireRoadUser

I've seen 2 Gigabyte sandisk cards for as low as 85 euro ,I think i'll be getting one myself.

I tried my IPOD again last night with the latest update and it would only download .jpg files from my camera ,at about 9MB a minute speed
The drive I gave a linky for does a 1GB card in seven minutes.

cgf

Follow this link for 2gb CF/SD for 60euro

http://www.pc-memory-upgrade.co.uk/s100406/

I ordered a 2gb USB and received it 3 days later via an post

despite the web address, they are actually based in Celbridge

also ordered a 2gb CF on Friday as a backup for the one I have already

Shrimp

King Eric wrote:

from DotOrg's FAQ on Music Photography

"And by simply taking lots and lots of pictures. The more you shoot, the more pictures you'll get in focus. If you don't take lots of pictures, you won't have lots of great pictures."

I do lots of gig photography too, and iv learned thru experience that because im shooting in low light conditions and because the lights are changing all the time, the best way to get good photos is to take loads of photos and pick out the best ones afterwards.

DotOrg's definitive guide, oh all hail..

A) thats concert photography, slightly different.

when i said dont take so many photos i mean only take a few, i mean dont take the ones u know aren't really gonna be great, like u can kinda tell you know. Still just get a bigger card

EireRoadUser

I thought it was better to buy branded memory cards ,as non branded can be less reliable ??

I could be completley wrong ,but if a card was even slightly dodgy ,I'd bin it.

Fajitas!

Chocheese will give his comment on cheap cards when he comes back online I'm sure. He works in a developers...Cheap cards can mean big problems!

King Eric

Shrimp wrote:

DotOrg's definitive guide, oh all hail..

A) thats concert photography, slightly different.

slightly different from what?

melekalikimaka said she wanted the extra space for photos because "i go to a fair few gigs where i take alot"

cgf

Fajitas! wrote:

Chocheese will give his comment on cheap cards when he comes back online I'm sure. He works in a developers...Cheap cards can mean big problems!

Not necessarily true. Transcend have been around quite a while. I have a few for various bits & pieces and have yet to have any problems.

I think 60Euro for 2gb 80x CF is a good deal.

Some reviews of CF cards, dpreview is a bit dated but we do see transcend along with the more recognised brands.....

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/mediacompare/default.asp#fwperf

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007

The Galbraith site is quite good - has performance by camera model.

Shrimp

King Eric wrote:

slightly different from what?

melekalikimaka said she wanted the extra space for photos because "i go to a fair few gigs where i take alot"

oh ok, but still at a gig u take loads of pics, if ur going mountain hiking you may not take quite as many, it depends on your style of photography.

Matthewthebig

Shrimp wrote:

Also, Try and think a bit before you take so many, more then likely, useless photos!

Wow you're a ****ing twat

melekalikimaka

humm.. ok i just wanted to kill two birds with one stone. I've a 256 card, and using a d50 that doesnt give me many shot in nef, so i was just seeing if anyone could point me in the direction of an all in one soloution, of course a new memory card would be the best option, but what am i supposed to do when i got go travelling in the summer and pc access becomes an issue and i run out of space.

andy1249

Of course there is always this , vicious price though , but really really nice


http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/epsonp2000/

Edit , And the latest model which is on the way

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0603/06031501epsonp4500.asp

Fenster

I have two 1gb cards and a 40gb portable HD. I've never yet filled one card up before I've emptied the other one into the HD. All three were fairly cheap, no fancy gadgets needed!

Fajitas!

melekalikimaka wrote:

but what am i supposed to do when i got go travelling in the summer and pc access becomes an issue and i run out of space.

Even while traveling, there'll surely be an internet cafe, and if not, a pharmacist that you can upload your photos onto a cd!

An all in one solution, would be a 4 gig card...Give you plenty of room!

JackKelly

Shrimp wrote:

DotOrg's definitive guide, oh all hail..

Good god, you're a tosser.

King Eric

Fenster wrote:

I have two 1gb cards and a 40gb portable HD. I've never yet filled one card up before I've emptied the other one into the HD. All three were fairly cheap, no fancy gadgets needed!

Any chance you could stick a link up to the one you own

I know somebody put a link up already, but just wondering which one you actually own

Thanks

melekalikimaka

Fajitas! wrote:

Even while traveling, there'll surely be an internet cafe, and if not, a pharmacist that you can upload your photos onto a cd!

An all in one solution, would be a 4 gig card...Give you plenty of room!

true true, a 4 gig would solve the gig issue, and, true about the pharmacy, hopefully... but the convience of popping the card in to a media player, and loading it up, whilst also i can keep all my music/few movies whatever on it while travelling is what i'm looking for that epson link looks very good, its got everything i want...might look into that

Fajitas!

Again, my problem with gigs is, your gonna need the space as you take the photos, you won't have a chance to do anything like uploading until after the gig!

EireRoadUser

melekalikimaka wrote:

whilst also i can keep all my music/few movies whatever on it while travelling is what i'm looking for that epson link looks very good, its got everything i want...might look into that

If you are going to use it for video ,check the specs for battery life with video.
Some untis only play a movie on a charge, also the bigger the screen the less battery life .
Also some units come with a built in lense for recording video and taking pictures, all the best with your decision.

Shrimp

opps I've upset people again....

cgf

A few more options:

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6501_7-5145238-1.html

http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=115803&tab=1

cgf

Shrimp wrote:

opps I've upset people again....

It just wouldn't be the same Shrimp if it was any other way

Roen

cgf wrote:

Follow this link for 2gb CF/SD for 60euro

http://www.pc-memory-upgrade.co.uk/s100406/

I ordered a 2gb USB and received it 3 days later via an post

despite the web address, they are actually based in Celbridge

also ordered a 2gb CF on Friday as a backup for the one I have already

Are those USB sticks 1.1 or 2.0 USB?? Judging by the 110 naming convention I'd guess they are 1.1. I can't find any details on the site though.

EireRoadUser

cgf wrote:

A few more options:

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6501_7-5145238-1.html

http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=115803&tab=1

the expansys link device has 50 minutes power on a single charge at 480mbps ,but sometimes thats the bus speed between the pc and the drive and not the card to drive speed.
You'll need to ask on the high street about these devices.

mloc

I agree, at gigs, like sports events, speed is key, and big cards come in handy.

For travel tho, depending on where you're going, the ould pharmacies are pretty handy for transferring stuff to cd. For places where thats not an option however, the epson is a nice little device though it is quite expensive, and a small laptop might just be a better idea in the long run.

King Eric wrote:

melekalikimaka said she wanted the extra space for photos because "i go to a fair few gigs where i take alot"

Sorry, just had to point out she's a he! melekalikimaka is a guy. Physically at least!

melekalikimaka

mloc wrote:

Sorry, just had to point out she's a he! melekalikimaka is a guy. Physically at least!

she raises a valid point

EireRoadUser

I get mixed up sometimes ,it's the mel thing and the animation is like a character he created .
Sorry about the confusion ,nothing got to do with your post or way of writing it's the animation thingy that confuses me sometimes.:(

Matthewthebig

mloc wrote:

Sorry, just had to point out she's a he! melekalikimaka is a guy. Physically at least!

what!

so many [strike]wet[/strike] dreams ruined

melekalikimaka

Matthewthebig wrote:

what!

so many [strike]wet[/strike] dreams ruined

<shudders>

Alun

Roen wrote:

Are those USB sticks 1.1 or 2.0 USB?? Judging by the 110 naming convention I'd guess they are 1.1. I can't find any details on the site though.

www.transcendusa.com

I think what you mean is are they USB 2.0 Hi speed (there is a version of USB 2.0 called rather confusingly "full-speed" which is only as fast as the old USB 1.1!)?

If so, the answer is yes.

mloc

melekalikimaka wrote:

she raises a valid point

HE raises a valid point. I'm a he. For the time being, at least.

Roen

Alun wrote:

www.transcendusa.com

I think what you mean is are they USB 2.0 Hi speed (there is a version of USB 2.0 called rather confusingly "full-speed" which is only as fast as the old USB 1.1!)?

If so, the answer is yes.

Cheers m8.