Intertoto Cup 2006

Töpher · 10-04-2006 8:49am #1

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/IntertotoCup/news/Kind=1/newsId=411768.html

Draw takes place at 11:00 GMT today, and the draw is regionalised. Portugal have declined entering a team.

Guess I find out my holiday destinations before midday today then!

May not find out what team I'm going to watch Shelbourne annihilate, but I'll know the country I'm invading!

_blank_ · 10-04-2006 9:25am

It doesn't say on UEFA.com what regions there are, does it?

Am I just not seeing it?

UEFA

Töpher · 10-04-2006 9:32am

No, it doesn't say what regions are what! Madness! Assuming like in the UEFA Cup, it'd be Germany/Denmark/Sweden/Finland and the like.

DEmeant0r · 10-04-2006 9:48am

so what english team is going?

gimmick · 10-04-2006 9:50am

No one at this early stage.

MrJoeSoap · 10-04-2006 9:58am

What is the format for qualification for English clubs does anyone know?

_blank_ · 10-04-2006 10:04am

League position isn't it?

Sixth ot Seventh, or whoever fancies it after that.

Töpher · 10-04-2006 10:08am

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4895064.stm

Everton, Blackburn, Boro, and 4 other English clubs have applied.

MrJoeSoap · 10-04-2006 10:10am

Importance of Europe clear

Half the Premiership could find themselves in mainstream European competition next season if Middlesbrough go on to collect the UEFA Cup.

Boro tackle Basle in the first leg of their quarter-final tomorrow knowing, unlike Arsenal, victory in the competition will open up an extra European space.

UEFA amended the Champions League qualification rules last summer to prevent any country having five representatives in the tournament, as was the case this year.

It means if the Gunners emulate Liverpool's achievement last term and win the Champions League but finish outside the Premiership's top four, the fourth-placed club - currently Tottenham - will drop into the UEFA Cup.

However, if Boro triumph in the secondary European competition England will gain an extra place, even if the Teessiders also win the FA Cup or are beaten by Chelsea or Liverpool in the final.

In addition, England are in line to gain entry into the annual Fair Play draw, which could bring a place in the UEFA Cup first qualifying round, while a record seven teams have expressed an interest in taking part in this summer's revamped Intertoto Cup.

Previously derided, the Intertoto has suddenly become far more attractive to Premiership clubs who, under the competition's new format, now only have to win one two-legged tie in July to reach the UEFA Cup second qualifying round the following month.

Unlike previous seasons, only one English club will be allowed to participate - the highest ranked side who have not already qualified for Europe - with the draw due to be made in Nyon on April 10.

England's potential 10-team European entry:

# Champions League - FOUR.

Top two in the Premiership (currently Chelsea and Manchester United qualify automatically for group stage), third and fourth placed teams (Liverpool and Tottenham) into final qualifying round.

But if Arsenal win Champions League and finish outside top four, they become third English club straight into group stage with Tottenham going into UEFA Cup.

# UEFA Cup - THREE OR FOUR

Fifth and sixth in Premiership (Blackburn and Arsenal), plus FA Cup winner or runner-up (West Ham, Charlton or Middlesbrough) straight into first round.

If Middlesbrough win UEFA Cup and reach the FA Cup final, they will go into first round as tournament holders and seventh placed Premiership team (Bolton) would join them.

# Fair Play - ONE

Country which finishes top of UEFA's Fair Play League (currently Belgium) automatically allocated one place in UEFA Cup 1st qualifying round. All countries with a final average of eight or above (England was 8.023 in December) go into a draw for the two remaining places. If successful, the highest placed team in Premiership Fair Play League not already in Europe (presently Charlton, then Wigan) would take the European place.

# Intertoto Cup - ONE

Highest-ranked team to apply not already in Europe takes England's place in third round. Not all seven teams to express their willingness to participate have done so publicly but it is believed Blackburn, Bolton, Everton and Middlesbrough are among them.

Very interesting.

Pity theres no live internet feed for this draw like the other UEFA competitions. Price of a bad season I guess!

Töpher · 10-04-2006 10:15am

We should know by 12:00. Hopefully!

Kingp35 · 10-04-2006 11:02am

Any word on this yet?

Töpher · 10-04-2006 11:08am

Shelbourne -v- Lithuanian Entrants. (Cork showed last year this can be done no problem!

).
Winners play a Danish side.
Winners play a Scottish side.
Winners go into UEFA Cup QR2.

Bluetonic · 10-04-2006 11:17am

Link to the draw online? Can't find anything on UEFA.com at mo.

gimmick · 10-04-2006 11:18am

Should progress past Lithuanians without much problem, though they will have their homework done this season.

Danish opposition doesn't sound too promising though, but City said the same about Swedish and Dutch opposition in recent years. Very interesting should Shels meet Scottish opposition. Maybe the age old question will finally be answered.

Kingp35 · 10-04-2006 12:02pm

Should progress past the first round anyway. Danish opposition may be a tricky tie but I believe Shels have the ability to get past them but the Danish side would certainly fancy themselves to go through. A match against a Scottish side would be very interesting indeed.

COuld have been a worse draw so Shels must b reasonably happy with it.

Töpher · 10-04-2006 12:11pm

Scottish aren't guaranteed into Round 3, they play Latvian or Faroe opposition in Round 2. The early reports must have assumed the Scottish side would progress.

eirebhoy · 10-04-2006 12:22pm

I think Hibs will be representing Scotland in the intertoto. Inverness are the only other team to apply.

blu_sonic · 11-04-2006 1:06am

i don't see shels winning it

Töpher · 11-04-2006 6:26pm

We need to hit some sort of form first!

Töpher · 12-04-2006 5:39pm

Thats an exception, and credit to you if thats what you chose to do. Most don't venture past the pub doors, or out of their livingroom. How is that supporting a team?

Generally (to myself anyways) support is an ongoing interactive thing. Anything else is just viewing, or experiencing the odd game. Being there in the good times and bad, applauding your team off the pitch, being back in the stands a few days after a bad defeat and roaring your team on to hopefully a vital 3 points, is support. Yelling "YES!", followed by "I'll have another pint of your finest wheat based drink my good man" is a cop out, and generally seems to just be something to have over a few mates when results go your way. It's not really "support" is it?

KdjaCL · 12-04-2006 7:14pm

Anywho, this is way off topic now! AirBaltic do reasoabley priced direct flights to Vilnius, for those interested!

Bet they beat you easily

kdjac

Blackjack · 12-04-2006 9:30pm

I would not rule Shelbourne out against Hibs, to be honest, and certainly would rate them against ICT.

Hibs had a tour of Ireland in July of Last year, drawing 3-3 with Cork City, beating Pats 5-0, and drawing with Shamrock Rovers 1-1.

They've sold one of their better front Men, Gary O'Connor to Locomotive Moscow, and Derek Riordan will most likely go at the end of this season, and they've not really arranged replacement of these. When you think that this was the team that finished 3rd in the SPL last year, there's an indication there that outside of the Old Firm (and I will grudgingly say Hearts as well), EL is not that far if not only quite on Par with the SPL.

A bit of success for one of the Irish teams in Europe would go a long way towards raising the profile of the Eircom league, which would not be a bad thing.

KdjaCL · 12-04-2006 9:35pm

Umm Shels have to get tru 2 rounds before they get near
Scotland, i know its great that we expect an EL team to win but Shels are awful this season (sadly...oh woe is us..what a world, what a world!!) and any team who gets them would fancy their chances if they only watch 5 minutes of them defending.

/spooky 1st time a thread on soccer where most thought the EL team would handily get tru 2 rounds in Europe.

kdjac

Blackjack · 12-04-2006 9:44pm

KdjaC wrote:

Umm Shels have to get tru 2 rounds before they get near
Scotland, i know its great that we expect an EL team to win but Shels are awful this season (sadly...oh woe is us..what a world, what a world!!) and any team who gets them would fancy their chances if they only watch 5 minutes of them defending.

/spooky 1st time a thread on soccer where most thought the EL team would handily get tru 2 rounds in Europe.

kdjac

Yeah, but Hibs have been falling apart since December too. I've not really been following Shels progress though, so I was probably going on their form from a while back.

KdjaCL · 12-04-2006 9:46pm

Shelbourne face a tricky assignment in the first round of this year’s Intertoto Cup competition after being paired with Lithuanian side Vetra Vilnius in Monday’s draw.

Shels qualified for the tournament by virtue of their third-placed finish in the eircom League last season.

Vetra finished fourth in the Lithuanian top division last season, 35 points behind champions Ekranas – who found Cork City too hot to handle in last summer’s Uefa Cup.

The winners of the tie take on Danish side OB Odense in the second round.

The first round tie takes place over two legs on June 17th and June 24th.

kdjac

MrJoeSoap · 12-04-2006 11:50pm

OB's current squad:

http://www.eufo.de/football/den/2005/odene_bk.htm

Not sure whether it is definitely them though, because they are currently only 3 points behind the team above them...

http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=52233/domestic.html

Töpher · 13-04-2006 8:05am

So just hope that Ollie gets battered in Europe, and that Shels progress? Everyone's a winner, baby!

lol

KdjaCL · 13-04-2006 8:08am

Blu sonic theres trolling and theres having a view on an issue, the above isnt a view to a debate its abusing and condescending to anyone who doesnt support EL. Below is my 1st game ever

_blank_ · 13-04-2006 9:01am

1948?

Or have I been whooshed?

gimmick · 13-04-2006 9:57am

^ Thats what i was thinking.

Intertoto Cup 2006

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