Racexpert

wb

Anyone use it?

It seems to be popular on one or two other forums. Just wondering if it is worth it.

finnpark

wbailey wrote:

Anyone use it?

It seems to be popular on one or two other forums. Just wondering if it is worth it.

I wouldn't waste your money on it. Haven't tried it but it wouldn't be for sale if it was any good.

wb

finnpark wrote:

I wouldn't waste your money on it. Haven't tried it but it wouldn't be for sale if it was any good.

Why not?

Do you think they would produce complex software & provide daily updates for free?

Betangel Pro costs money, and it is worth it if you trade a lot

Similarly, RSB. A lot of people use it. (Race Systems Builder). It is about the most expensive racing software there is, but is highly regarded.

Why do you say it would'nt be for sale if it was any good?

finnpark

wbailey wrote:

Why not?

Do you think they would produce complex software & provide daily updates for free?

Betangel Pro costs money, and it is worth it if you trade a lot

Similarly, RSB. A lot of people use it. (Race Systems Builder). It is about the most expensive racing software there is, but is highly regarded.

Why do you say it would'nt be for sale if it was any good?

If you knew what tomorrow night's lotto numbers are would you tell us. Exactly.

These software sales are just a big scam.

If you want proper feedback from others you can be sure to get plenty of feedback on this issue from the Goodbet forum - www.goodbet.co.uk .

wb

No no no...

I think you have got this all wrong finn.

This software does not 'tell you' which horses are going to win. It is software to help analyse racecards, filter stats and build systems. You must do the work yourself, and produce the selections yourself. I use betangel to trade, and it is not a scam. It does not 'tell me' which horses to trade on, I have to do that myself, but the software helps me get an edge. It is not a tipping service.

Thanks for the link by the way, looks handy.

finnpark

wbailey wrote:

No no no...

I think you have got this all wrong finn.

This software does not 'tell you' which horses are going to win. It is software to help analyse racecards, filter stats and build systems. You must do the work yourself, and produce the selections yourself. I use betangel to trade, and it is not a scam. It does not 'tell me' which horses to trade on, I have to do that myself, but the software helps me get an edge. It is not a tipping service.

Thanks for the link by the way, looks handy.

Oh I see. That can be a help in big races anyway. Still its easy to be overcome by all this stuff. I found a system of picking winners and lays that Im extremely happy with. It has made me a lot of profit although I would never share it. If you don't use a system you will have losing runs > 10 which will eliminate your profits.

One major tip for everyone: Dont back horses under 2/1 unless you have inside information, in the long run you will only loose money - guaranteed.

Hobart

finnpark wrote:

I wouldn't waste your money on it.

I wouldn't waste anybdies money on anything tbh.

finnpark wrote:

Haven't tried it

Ok. But obviously you have had a look at it and formed an opinion? Yes? No?

finnpark wrote:

but it wouldn't be for sale if it was any good.

Ok Finnpark. Any more idiotic statements like that and you are banned permo. Is that clear?

You seem to be hell bent on peee'ing off members and contributers of this board for no other reason but to further your on "look at me" feelings. Your previous attempt at plagerism is a typical example.

Cool it down or fook off. I will permantently ban you if you appear on my radar once more. Please contribute, but make some sense.

finnpark

First of all Hobart, that crowd were taken to court for the claims they made. They started out with the Brimardon package in 1988 and changed its name for legal reasons so they could keep on conning people. They also got in trouble for spamming. Their 100% GUARANTEE claims were removed after the court case.

Hobart wrote:

But obviously you have had a look at it and formed an opinion? Yes? No?

Yes. And the opinion was that it was and still is a scam.

"Our aim is to always keep our thriving membership one step ahead of the Bookie at all times !!
RaceXpert is the NUMBER ONE software for UK Horse Racing

RaceXpert ratings have stood the test of time

We give you Top-Rated-Big-Priced winners EVERY WEEK !!

Everyone can bet on UK racing from anywhere in the world"

:rolleyes:

Ok Finnpark. Any more idiotic statements like that and you are banned permo. Is that clear?

He asked for an opinion and I gave it. Surely we are all entitled to an opinion on a public discussion board?

I was trying to save the lad some money .

Here is another customer's feedback:

Hi Guys,

My weekly update.

I'm another £25 down on Racexpert and at a point where I actually hate it. In 7 days I've won 3/28. I was doing better just from comparing Racing Edge and Massey.

I have spent well over 80 hours burning the midnight oil, just studying the various buttons, seeing how effective they are in producing results etc.. At one point I decided to start looking for ongoing patterns and I ended up with over 65 boxes to tick for each horse. Yeh, right..

It's said that a bad workman always blames their tools.. well, I'm not blaming RX. But I'm currently no advocate either.

Last week I was pi££ed off. This week I'm just plain angry and extremely frustrated. I find no quality or value from the programme or the time I'm investing.

I think if he takes my advice he will save himself a few euro but thats MY OPINION. . These guys have made millions from this software and I feel strongly about such issues. Its hard enough to make decent profits from racing without these sort of things. Anyone agree.

GavinJCD

finnpark wrote:

One major tip for everyone: Dont back horses under 2/1 unless you have inside information, in the long run you will only loose money - guaranteed.

Yeh I'd stay away from the race altogether if it had a horse that heavily favoured.

Gav

wb

This has gone way off topic.

Finn, I dont want to have a go at you here, as you seem to feel that you are getting a raw deal lately. But there are one or two things that I have to say.

I use one or two different types of racing software, and I can assure you that they are not all rip-offs. Some of them can make you money, some cant.
I don't take much notice of profit claims on the websites to be honest, likewise, I don't take the negative reviews as gospel either, as there are some people out there that can not turnover a profit, no matter what they back, due to bad staking.

Also, I want to question/take issue with a couple of things you said in this thread. You said that you have your own back/lay system that turns over a profit, yet you would never give it out.

Why?

Also, you gave some advice about not backing under 2/1 as you will lose guaranteed. This is simply not the case. I back under 2/1 regular, and will do and odds on every so often, yet I am not losing too often. Don't get me wrong, I'm not making a fortune or anything, but with careful selection, and sensible staking, it is possible to profit. Sure, if you back 2/1 and under blindly, you will loose - but most people here dont back blindly (I hope!).


And - You said you make profit from laying. Laying is simply backing the rest of the field ODDS ON. So your claim about backing under 2/1 does not stand up if you lay.

I realise that you are a novice at this, but I think you should not make such sweeping statements about software, and betting in general, until you have more experience, as newbies to the forum may take what you are saying on board, and lose money.

Anyway the original quesiton:

wbailey wrote:

Anyone use it?

As you can see, I was looking for advice from people who actually use it. While I appreciate your comments and views about racing software, I don't agree, and I was hoping for responses from racexpert users.

Hope I'm not being too harsh here finn, but I just wanted to clear them issues up.

scojones

I haven't used Racexpert but I have to say it does look interesting. If you do end up using it please let me know how you get on with it. If it's any good it would be something I would definately be interested in.

wb

sjones wrote:

I haven't used Racexpert but I have to say it does look interesting. If you do end up using it please let me know how you get on with it. If it's any good it would be something I would definately be interested in.

I'm really in two minds about this one to be honest. I 'know' a guy from another forum who uses is. He is a very sensible gambler, and he swears by it, In fact, it is all he uses to produce his selections. The thing that is putting me off, is the regular payments you need to make to them. That does not sit well with me at all. I don't mind buying anything if it is worth it for a once off payment, but I don't like the idea of paying them regular. Also, I'm not sure if I would have the time to give it 100% attention at the moment. I'll let you know if I get it though.

Regarding other software, I'm currently using betangel basic to trade at the moment, and find it great. It is low risk (but low profit). Depending on the stakes, I currently making less than a euro per race, but it is hard to lose much money if you stick to strict rules. Like everything though, I could do with spending a bit more time using it.

scojones

wbailey wrote:

I'm really in two minds about this one to be honest. I 'know' a guy from another forum who uses is. He is a very sensible gambler, and he swears by it, In fact, it is all he uses to produce his selections. The thing that is putting me off, is the regular payments you need to make to them. That does not sit well with me at all.

Nor me, I was unaware of this until now. That has changed my mind somewhat. I'd prefer to just pay them x amount for it instead of paying every month / week / whatever. Is their a trial version available? I'd like to be able to try something before buying it.

wb

Was talking to the guy who uses it and he said it costs about a quid a day (sterling). He thinks it is well worth it, but for me, I think it would be pointless paying that money if I don't have the time to do it. I already put a lot of time into betting as it is, so I don't want to take something else on if I can't give it 100%. May look into it in the future though. I'm not aware of any free traills either....