Concern B**tards and other do gooders

Gator

Ok...so I am in town and walking along wicklow street and like vultures the are all around me...I have no problem with people trying to raise money for charity but come on....I tell the first sap I dont want any..thanks and then like a cult trying to recruit, the next person comes to me and ask me if I have a minute...leave me alone..please god....anyone else run in to these...

latenia

Gator wrote:

Ok...so I am in town and walking along wicklow street and like vultures the are all around me...I have no problem with people trying to raise money for charity but come on....I tell the first sap I dont want any..thanks and then like a cult trying to recruit, the next person comes to me and ask me if I have a minute...leave me alone..please god....anyone else run in to these...

Never run into one of these before....tell me more.............

super_furry

"Can you spare a minute for cancer research?"

"Alright, but I doubt we'll get much done in a minute."

flogen

yeah, was actually just speaking to someone about the dangers of a walk down Wicklow street today; it's rediculous to have four or five people gathered within spitting distance of each other; I just walk along saying "no, thanks" aloud..

Still; they're not as bad as those bastards from the Hanley Centre... sneaking up on you and walking along begging for you to buy a scratch card.

GeorgeBailey

flogen wrote:

Still; they're not as bad as those bastards from the Hanley Centre... sneaking up on you and walking along begging for you to buy a scratch card.

One thing that always confuses me about the hanley centre gig is that they're encouraging you to gamble (buying a scratch card) yet they're a treatment centre for addictions and I presume one of these addictions is gambling. Maybe their real aim is to get more clients?

LFCFan

Anytime I see them one after the other on I imagine the scene in Airplane when yer man beats the sh1t out of each of the religious nuts trying to sell him something. That would be most refreshing

Like the OP said, I've no issue with giving to charity but I am sick of these people getting in your way when you're trying to make a bus etc.

meldrew

Actually if I recall someone on boards actually worked as a chugger for a while maybe they could share their experience !

b0bsquish

i just usually give em a nod and a no thanks, althou recently I had some lad (forget the charity) stop me to tell me that "ac/dc sucked" and that was it! didnt ask for my time or anything!

Devon

super_furry wrote:

"Can you spare a minute for cancer research?"

"Alright, but I doubt we'll get much done in a minute."

Brilliant! I love it. I'll use that next time.

BlueSpiral

One once chased me down the road, and stood there telling me about the charity for five minutes. He just stopped, and gave me a concerned look.
"are you 18?"
"um no"
"oh sh*t!, sorry, thanks for listening anyway"
he just walked off looking really annoyed.

Hobbes

http://www.boards.ie/wiki/index.php/Chugger

Beans_On

...and have you seen the guys on O Connell st.To get your attention they gesture their hand for you to shake it.its usually a natural reaction to shake back. not here tho, unless you have a handbuzzer (or leperacy)

johnp

Thought that I read on here previously that the companies that these chuggers work for (the chuggers do not work for the charity directly :eek: ) only have to give 30% of the money brought in to the charity.
I never have and never will (when funds allow) give money to these guys. I'd go directly to the charity itself.

Karl Hungus

If I was in power, I'd fine charities who use chuggers, and award that money to charities who don't.

jay-me

Personaly I find "I don't have a bank card","I'm already signed up" or "I work for the same company" keeps them at bay.

Karl Hungus

jay-me wrote:

Personaly I find "I don't have a bank card","I'm already signed up" or "I work for the same company" keeps them at bay.

I've actually made so much of a nuisance of myself towards these guys they basically see me coming, and go out of their way to avoid me.

I started knocking clipboards out of their hands when they tried to stand in my way, and I once started chatting away about nothing with one fellow, or rather 'At' him as it were. It was hilarious listening to him keep trying to change the subject. I think I got a good 10 minutes out of it, before he actually copped on and realised I was just wasting his time. Another time I tried to get one guy to come for a drink with me.

This is how to deal with these people. There's absolutely nothing like the feeling of chuggers actually avoiding you.

grimloch

Karl Hungus wrote:

This is how to deal with these people. There's absolutely nothing like the feeling of chuggers actually avoiding you.

Tee-hee.

I had to walk up and down Wicklow Street at least three or four times a day during my Summer job.

Three of them were lined up in a diagonal line so as to "catch" the most people. The first one asked me to stop and was told, loudly I may add, no. The second one then stopped me, despite the fact that he or she was facing the first chugger and me when I declined the first. Cheeky feckers.

I dislike the fact that they stand in your way though and jump out in front of you. The "knocking clipboards out of their hands strategy" sounds amusing for some of them.

Karl Hungus

grimloch wrote:

I dislike the fact that they stand in your way though and jump out in front of you.

Ah, reminds me of another time some girl tried that one on me, and I just said loudly and sharply (didn't quite shout it) move! You should've seen the poor thing jump back.

The_Minister

As someone who is 6' 4" I find walking through them makes them back off:) They always get out of the way.
When (at school) we were collecting for Happy Hearts, a woman shouted "rape" at one of my friends.

Sofaspud

Karl Hungus wrote:

Ah, reminds me of another time some girl tried that one on me, and I just said loudly and sharply (didn't quite shout it) move! You should've seen the poor thing jump back.

Karl is my hero

Flex

I cant stand those guys, they seriously piss me off. I admire them for trying to raise money for charity and all, but its a major pain in the ass that I cant walk through the city centre without being stopped about 10 times, and they always stand in groups of four or five, about 10 feet away from each other, and some of them are so pushy aswel

Karl Hungus

Flex wrote:

I admire them for trying to raise money for charity and all

They're not. They're working a job, and get payed out of the money that's supposedly going to charity.

orangerooster

A good old thousand yard stare generally tells them you dont want to talk, although once in Templebar doing this led to this scenario:

Chugger: " A moment of time for concern"
Me:......
Chugger: "A moment of time for charity"
Me:.......
Chugger "A moment of time to acknowledge my existence"
Me:.....

Smarmy bitch! Hate chuggers so much.

Odysseus

No time for it myself, I find it very intrusive, as other posters said I have no problem giving to charity, I raise money myself when I can. However, there is almost a bullying element with these guys the way the stand in front of you, and that just does'nt work with me. I've never given to these guys, however, afaik they are looking for a monthly donation which I think is just too cheeky.

weemcd

pair of headphones in your ears and a quick shake of the head should have you sorted...

there are some intrusive fúckers who get in your way tho

RSF

Many of those who engage in harrassment to get your money are actually sub-contracted by other companies to the charity. They get paid for doing it, so the charity isn't fully responsible for these horrible people who give charity a terrible name.

judomick

has anyone seen the concern HQ across form the bleeding horse pub? its brand new must be worth 10-15 million at least, why dont they buy a warehouse out in the suburbs for 1 or 2 million and donate the rest to charity, i said this to one of there collectors, a look of bemusement and embarassment:D

Aard

I remember when they used to target the gullible eleven y.o emo kids. Now they avoid anybody in a school uniform.

Rb

I know a few people who've worked for them before, €11.50 an hour they were getting for it.
They're some of the most annoying pr1cks you can come across, sure they're only doing a job but they're herding in little packs for their conversations and then spreading about two feet apart so it looks like they're actually working, then each one takes their turn at annoying the same person as they try to walk down the street past them.
Now they're even standing infront of the main doors in Dundrum Town Centre, four of them at two doors pestering everyone who walks in our out.
They also cover the steps into the forecourt and along parts of the road in Dundrum village for maximum annoyance.
Not even the homeless who approach you for "spare change for a hostel" are as annoying as them.

weemcd wrote:

pair of headphones in your ears and a quick shake of the head should have you sorted...

You'd think so, but there's been times when I've been walking down Grafton st. with headphones on and they'd still come over and actually walk infront of me while facing me to try and get my attention.

Piste

Being under 18 really helps cos there's not much they can say back to you then.

Karl Hungus

rb_ie wrote:

You'd think so, but there's been times when I've been walking down Grafton st. with headphones on and they'd still come over and actually walk infront of me while facing me to try and get my attention.

Elbows are there for a reason, people. Use them.

Stench Blossoms

God i hate them. I especially hate this one guy who used to stand outside the Bank Of Ireland on Dame St (he's normally outside cleary's now). He's a stupid hippy. I always have my headphones on and he always dances when he see's me trying to get my attention.

pkeno

The other day walking down O Connell St(at a brisk pace) with my brother

Chugger: Can i have a word?
My Brother: Yeah, velocity!

grimloch

orla wrote:

God i hate them. I especially hate this one guy who used to stand outside the Bank Of Ireland on Dame St (he's normally outside cleary's now). He's a stupid hippy. I always have my headphones on and he always dances when he see's me trying to get my attention.

I know that guy!! Beard and long hair guy. He's been working as a chugger for a good two years at least. He is a perfect example of what I mentioned earlier.

He leaps in front of you and does what one could class as a dance and he's one of the feckers that you have to walk around.

Flex

Karl Hungus wrote:

They're not. They're working a job, and get payed out of the money that's supposedly going to charity.

I thought it was all volunteer stuff. Great, now Ill feel even less guilty when I ignore them Correction: I wont feel guilty at all

doctor evil

Its been my dream to lassoo them or just man handle them and throw them in a skip, or the Liffey with weights on their feet.

elvis2002

I hate them with a passion. They are the most annoying people in the world. I was walking with my gf recently and the usual "Can u spare a few minutes?" I said 'No'. The guy then proceeded to follow on my girlfriends side and asked her where is she from?... he said like he was in a pub. I told him that it was none of his business and he was all defensive saying that there's loads of girls etc and I said 'Go f yourself'. He stood there for a second and then went back to his pack of annoying scumbags.

nlgbbbblth

There were other threads on chuggers a few months ago,

I printed off some pages from one of them and now keep a few copies in my bag.

Any chugger that stops me now, I hand him/her a copy of the thread.

F'UCK THOSE GUYS

Photi

pkeno wrote:

The other day walking down O Connell St(at a brisk pace) with my brother

Chugger: Can i have a word?
My Brother: Yeah, velocity!

Shouldn't that be 'Can I have a quick word'?

seanos

One sentence usually leaves such people stunned long enough,
'Sorry, I don't speak English'

maddog

SeanOS wrote:

One sentence usually leaves such people stunned long enough,
'Sorry, I don't speak English'

Just say....

Do you have any Gear Bud!!! (In your best junkie Scanger accent)


They fcuk off pretty quick!

Regards,
Maddog.

Hobbes

SeanOS wrote:

'Sorry, I don't speak English'

Or "No english! No English!"

Stench Blossoms

grimloch wrote:

I know that guy!! Beard and long hair guy. He's been working as a chugger for a good two years at least. He is a perfect example of what I mentioned earlier.

He leaps in front of you and does what one could class as a dance and he's one of the feckers that you have to walk around.

Yeh thats him alright. Long hair, beard, wheres some sort of thing wrapped around his waist and legs.

I was thinking about making a huge scene some day when he trys to stop me again - like screaming crying begging him to leave me alone, roll around on the ground and then just quickly stand up and walk away calmly.

DublinWriter

johnp wrote:

Thought that I read on here previously that the companies that these chuggers work for (the chuggers do not work for the charity directly :eek: ) only have to give 30% of the money brought in to the charity.
I never have and never will (when funds allow) give money to these guys. I'd go directly to the charity itself.

Not even that. Chuggers aside, charities are not under any legal obligation in this country to disclose how much of the money they take in goes to their actual cause.

I remember seeing a Primetime documentary a few years ago about the big charities in this country, suggesting that after costs (admin, salaries, advertising, etc) that only 30% of the money collected actually goes to the cause.

Personally, I prefare to give to charities staffed entirely by volunteers, such as Fr. Peter McVerys Welcome Home charity, Chun Mhuire, etc, etc

skywalker

http://www.glimmerofhope.org

"Another unique aspect of A Glimmer of Hope’s approach is 100 percent of donor funds are directed to those partners and communities in need. This is made possible by the income arising from the foundation’s endowment being used to cover all operating overheads."

Thats a real charity.

Ardent

I just look them in the eye and shake my head. That usually ends it before it starts.

Jumpy

Hobbes wrote:

Or "No english! No English!"

Or "I am sorry my good gentleman, but I truly do not speak a word of English wot?"

Wacker

b0bsquish wrote:

i just usually give em a nod and a no thanks, althou recently I had some lad (forget the charity) stop me to tell me that "ac/dc sucked" and that was it! didnt ask for my time or anything!

That is rather ignorant (especially because AC/DC rule!). Were you wearing an AC/DC T-shirt at the time? If not, then it is simply bizarre.

LegacyUser

i signed up 2 years ago.

said this to one of these tossers, and he got v sarky "ta v much"

should have gotten his name.

there was swarms of em around oconnel street the other day, fuping loosers.

The Doktor

There`s no need to get smart with these guys...


A good old fashioned "**** off" always worked for me...

Degsy

Couple of thing worth mentioning.I worked for the hanley cetnre for a year,our flat rate was 40% of the take,my supervisor got 20% of that and HIS boss got between 10-20% of the remaining ctach.5% went to print the crads and the remaining 5% went to the charity.Its an utter scam,all those "charities" are on the make,they've got well paid staff and expensive premises.Give them nowt.
If you dont want to sound like a total bastard by saying no or whatever just say "i've a direct debit" it does wonders and they will actually say thatnk you!!