Business and Legal

joxer05

Hi everyone,
im doing the leaving cert this year and i have put down business and legal as my first choice. i was just wondering could people tell me what the course is like, is it good craic and do you really get to use laptops in most classes. i was also wondering what the chances are of me getting on campus accomodation ( i live in meath).


Thanks very much!!

Jonny Arson

I'm not B&L but many who post here are but if you're from Meath you won't have a hope of getting on campus accomodation. (Selection is based on distance you live from the college so the further away you live from UCD the better chance you have)

Paul Tergat

Business and legal is a quality course (im in second yr). U get to use your laptop in pretty much all of the business subjects (with net access) and you can type ur notes in the law classes but there is no wireles network in law rooms.

My particular yr is class, ev1 is up for a laugh and the nights out are pretty decent. I recommend Business and Legal, easy hours over the week, you may have around 17, and there is hardly and continuous assessment work throughout the year

joxer05

what is the timetable like in 1st year. are there many early starts? where do u go when you don't have lectures?

Paul Tergat

the timetable will vary from year to year. first, 2 of your 3 law subjects (taught by barristers) are gunna b evenings, as the lecturers work durin the day. contract will likely be in late mornings, maybe 11 o clock ish. the business subjects will vary, prob a couple in the morn and rest in afternoon. in my first year i had 1 9 oclock, 1 10 oclock and the rest startin at like 2/3 in afternoon, its very student friendly

when u dont have lectures u can do what u want, student bar opens at like half 10, best place thought is bed in the mornings and then bars durin day. but u'll find u will have other things to do during lecture gaps (gym, societies, sports teams etc). there is always the quinn school, where they have wireless net access until late at night

hope this helps

joxer05

yeah, this is a great help. do u know is it hard to get accomodation near the campus. i dont fancy commuting for hours every day!

Paul Tergat

well in first year i got campus, coz then they didnt have this rule of being far from the uni, but being from england id have got it neways.

This year im living in Stillorgan (don't know if ur familiar with Dublin) but it's pretty close, bout 30 min walk or 5/10 mins on bus. there are always plenty of places around august for students but u'd wanna get together with some people to grab a place at that time.

The best site is www.daft.ie, grab a map of the nearby areas of Dublin and search for affordable areas around the south side of the city on that site. i pay 450 a month for my gaff, which i share with 2 others. u'll def get a place to stay in the end but it may take a while. but even if u dont find one straight away there will always be the accommodation office open where someone will help u find sumfing. it just depends on how much ur willin to pay.

from experience i can tell you that when u accept a place in UCD (hopin u get it and want it) then get lookin for accommodation becayse if u leave it too late u'll end up maybe sumwhere u dont really wanna be....

besty

I'm in 3rd B&L and would fully recommend it. There's great course content and the year is split into 3 groups so you really get to know people moreso than in other programmes.

TheVan

joxer05 wrote:

what is the timetable like in 1st year. are there many early starts?

I hope you're not basing your choice of course on that!! :eek:

If we don't have lectures, some people go home, some doss on the laptops, others go for coffees or just socialise or if its exam time its off to the library with ya!

B&L is an amazing degree, I've never met a nicer group of people, I've made many life-long friends! Also the course work is really interesting and its just great overall! There's a real sense of community in B&L.

There's plenty of college accomodation nearby, Goatstown and Booterstown being your best bet but as far as I know, everyone finds somewhere!

Sangre

Girls in law are trolls compared to in BnL.

Font22

aw sangre, stop! i'm blushing. where in the name of god where u this morning by the way??? missed an amazing lecture......

Font22

for the OP, i really recommend B+L. v good degree,opens doors for you in loads of disciplines. theres a good balance between the business and law subjects and if u prefer one from the other u can always specialise in 4th year. good luck with the leaving, i know the orals are on around now!!!

joxer05

if you study b and l are you kind of like a leper. not accepted as a proper law student by the law people and not accepted as a proper commerence student by the commerce people:D ? when you are attending law lectures thorugh b and l, do you get the same lecturers as the bcl students? are you in together?

singingstranger

TBH as a non-B&L but Quinn Student I think they fit in equally in each end. Anyway, there are about 140 people in each year doing B&L so it's not as if you're a castaway, there's a nicely sized group in the same boat so that you don't feel like a pariah.

As for attending the same lectures as BCL, I'll let someone in the know (p_larkin99, I'm looking at you...) field that one.

Paul Tergat

singingstranger wrote:

As for attending the same lectures as BCL, I'll let someone in the know (p_larkin99, I'm looking at you...) field that one.

errr...18 hours and counting

You're not an outcast at all, and for whatever reason the b n l classes seem to be a close group! We have different law lecturers to the Law class and are in our own lectures, if not the classes would be huge. We also have law tutorials for each subject, which are much smaller groups (maybe around 12 in each)
which some people prefer as you can ask more questions etc

Font22

you end up in lectures with BCL students in third year. well i did anyways for international business law. nice bunch of people despite the rumours (JOKE)

joxer05

is b and l 17 hours a week including lectures? how much time do tutorials, etc take up?

Paul Tergat

You are likely to have around 17-20 hours a week (including 3 hours of law tutorials)....to be honest i wouldn't worry too much about the timetable or number of hours, just make sure you do a course that you enjoy doing!

Having said that the timetable for b and l is pretty sweet

singingstranger

p_larkin99 wrote:

to be honest i wouldn't worry too much about the timetable or number of hours, just make sure you do a course that you enjoy doing!

I've got to agree with this one - if you check the 'Lecture Attendance' thread you'll see how some people will do up to 40 hours a week, and attend everything, if they enjoy the subject matter. It's like how you won't mind working half an hour extra in a job that you really enjoy that way - if you have an interest and find enjoyment in what you're doing, then anything up to 25 hours really won't be a problem for you.