sinnfein informer shot dead in donegal

ronbyrne2005

the sinnfein informer who came clean recently seems to have been killed by either republicans or british secret service, murky dealings indeed.

Tchocky

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nuttz

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054912946

Wertz

Links? Source? Nothing on BBC about it...when did this happen?

netwhizkid

Wertz wrote:

Links? Source? Nothing on BBC about it...when did this happen?

It was on RTE news right now.

nuttz

http://www.breakingnews.ie/2006/04/04/story252512.html
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2006/0404/breaking75.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4877516.stm
more to follow...

ronbyrne2005

suspected to be suicide or maybe was made to look like suicide?

Wertz

Dondalson?! Had it coming really. Murky indeed.
Would the provos risk doing this "officially"?
British military intelligence may have a lot to gain from a move like this, not least being making it look like the provos did it and throwing the peace process up in the air, or tying up a loose end before he get's round to writing memoirs or revealing his whole story...
Or maybe it was personal...he's certainly not the only shinner living in Glenties, and there's plenty who'd have a big axe to grind with the man.

Who knows?

ghostdancer

Wertz wrote:

Would the provos risk doing this "officially"?

definitely not.

and i'd be almost certain they wouldn't do it unofficially either.

both anti-GFA dissidents on both republican and loyalist sides would love to de-stabilise the PP at the moment, now that's it's looking like some real progress.

donaldson being a high figure in the IRA for many years would be both a sore spot for both camps aswell.

his pics and location were in the sunday world last week....if anyone wanted to find him, they easily could have.

if the provos wanted to murder him, it wouldn't have taken them this long, and they wouldn't have done it a few weeks before the Assembly is recalled.

Wertz

ghostdancer wrote:

his pics and location were in the sunday world last week....if anyone wanted to find him, they easily could have.

Aye just caught that bit on the end of the Last Word.

I agree on the convenient timing...just like stormontgate itself which was instigated as a result of Donaldson's actions.

So how long before the PSNI come out with some convenient information about movements of known dissidents across the border?

Johnny_the_fox

ghostdancer wrote:

his pics and location were in the sunday world last week....if anyone wanted to find him, they easily could have.

*apparently* - he owned this house long before stormontgate and the carried a photo of this house around with him... so if anyone knew him - knew about the house.

joebhoy1916

ghostdancer wrote:

donaldson being a high figure in the IRA for many years.

Sure he wasnt even a high member racked member in sinn fein well ok he was in stormont in there offices stuff like that but as far as im aware he was never at meeting about the peace agreement or anything like that. Funny how his office was the one that the brits claimed they found documents involved in the so called spy ring when he was a british agent.
The fool should not of stayed in Ireland. If your an informer you die simply as.

Zebra3

No surprises he was killed.

Did he really think he was safe hanging around in Ireland?

A lot of enemies in Republican circles and well, once you start working for the Brits, you can't trust them as far as you could throw them.

ghostdancer

joebhoy1916 wrote:

ghostdancer wrote:

donaldson being a high figure in the IRA for many years.

Sure he wasnt even a high member racked member in sinn fein well ok he was in stormont in there offices stuff like that but as far as im aware he was never at meeting about the peace agreement or anything like that.

he was. and he was also a huge player in funding from the US for the wider republican movement. my cousin told me before about what roll he had in the IRA for a few years, can't remember what, but i think it was one of the GHQ staff, the level under the Army Council.

finnpark

He was tortured before he was killed. He had to cut off his hand off:eek: . Now, I have no eviddence of this but it appears to be the case. No real surprise really considering the amount of people on both sides he was responsible for killing etc.

Anyway, not for me to judge. God rest him and you really have to feel sorry for his family.

ghostdancer

finnpark wrote:

He was tortured before he was killed. He had to cut off his hand off:eek: . Now, I have no eviddence of this but it appears to be the case. No real surprise really considering the amount of people on both sides he was responsible for killing etc.

Anyway, not for me to judge. God rest him and you really have to feel sorry for his family.

how do you know his hand was cut off before he was killed as opposed to after?

finnpark

ghostdancer wrote:

how do you know his hand was cut off before he was killed as opposed to after?

I don't. But I don't see the point of cutting off his hand after killing him. Not much pain in that.

It seems to a torturous murdEr. Thats how the story goes anyway.

ghostdancer

finnpark wrote:

I don't. But I don't see the point of cutting off his hand after killing him. Not much pain in that.

It seems to a torturous murdEr. Thats how the story goes anyway.

a message perhaps. or to make it look like a message.

muffler

The latest speculation about the hand is that it was blown off with a shotgun apparantly while trying to protect himself

joebhoy1916

Police launched a murder inquiry on Tuesday after finding the mutilated body of former Sinn Fein member Denis Donaldson who last year admitted spying on fellow Irish nationalists on behalf of British security forces.

The IRA denied it was behind a killing that risks heightening mistrust two days before a fresh bid by Dublin and London to end a political stalemate in the province.

"The Gardai are treating it as a homicide not a suicide," Irish Minister for Justice Michael McDowell said.

"They found the body on the floor with a bullet wound to the head," he told Sky Television. "There is damage to his right forearm ... it is almost severed."

Police in the Republic of Ireland confirmed they were investigating the discovery of a man in his mid-50s in Donegal.

Donaldson was a convicted IRA bomber who spent time in prison with Gerry Adams, now leader of the paramilitary group's political ally Sinn Fein.

Donaldson was again arrested in 2002 and accused of spying for Sinn Fein at the Stormont parliament in Belfast but in a dramatic twist he was expelled from the party in December after admitting he had been a mole for the British for two decades.

"SERIOUS REPERCUSSIONS"

The IRA took the unusual step of issuing a brief statement on Tuesday: "The IRA had no involvement whatsoever in the death of Denis Donaldson."

The guerrilla group called a cease-fire in 1997 and pledged last July to down arms and pursue its fight for a united Ireland through democratic means. An independent watchdog reported in October that the paramilitary group was keeping to its pledge.

But Northern Ireland's main unionist party cast doubt on whether the IRA had renounced violence.

"If what I have heard is true, that they cut his hand off then that would show that they were saying 'here was the hand that signed away his obligation to IRA/Sinn Fein,'" said Democratic Unionist Party leader Ian Paisley.

"If this is so, or there is any suggestion that this is so ... this is a terrible happening that has very serious repercussions," he said.

Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams condemned the killing, agreeing it could damage efforts to restore the province's regional government.

"It is likely that his death at this time is intended to undermine current efforts to make political progress," he said in a statement. "Those who carried out this murder are clearly opposed to the peace process."

Prime Minister Tony Blair and his Irish counterpart, Bertie Ahern, are both expected in Northern Ireland this week to unveil their latest plan to kick-start a mothballed assembly which collapsed in part due to the 2002 allegations that Donaldson and others had been spying for Sinn Fein.

The Stormont assembly, in which Catholic and Protestant parties on either side of the Northern Ireland's sectarian divide shared power, collapsed three years ago after a police raid on Sinn Fein offices.