Bird Flu

xzanti

Did anyone else hear the news report on the radio today regarding bird flu?? *Apparently* the HSE have ordered 3,000 body bags and have advised the Government to buy in large freezer units for storing bodies in preparation for the arrival of the disease :eek: Any body else freaked out by this??

scojones

xzanti wrote:

Did anyone else hear the news report on the radio today regarding bird flu?? *Apparently* the HSE have ordered 3,000 body bags and have advised the Government to buy in large freezer units for storing bodies in preparation for the arrival of the disease :eek: Any body else freaked out by this??

Only 3,000? I like those odds! I wouldn't worry about it to be honest.

Peace

I'd be more fraked out by bodies lying in the street rotting. Better have the freezer units & bags.

7aken

this is on the advice of the who, apparently the first option mary harney came up with was mass graves so this new option appears slightly more user friendly methinks. am very freaked by it all though, its going to happen (unlike sars killing everyone)

SoupyNorman

I've the onset of a flu now, wonder can uniflu give the birdflu the oul 1-2?

Peace

7aken wrote:

this is on the advice of the who, apparently the first option mary harney came up with was mass graves so this new option appears slightly more user friendly methinks. am very freaked by it all though, its going to happen (unlike sars killing everyone)

I swear... every problem Mary Harney comes across the first suggestion is mass graves.

SoupyNorman

Peace wrote:

I swear... every problem Mary Harney comes across the first suggestion is mass graves.

Stylists included.......

ferdi

Peace wrote:

I swear... every problem Mary Harney comes across the first suggestion is mass graves.

when she dies she's gonna need a mass grave of her own.

Chrissy

Oh & they're also buying Bird Flu vaccinations (400,000 ish or something like that, I think, could be V wrong though) from an American company who the government, at the same time, is seeking leagal advice on how best to sue said company for some disease it's products caused years ago.

(Sorry, never was the best on detail!!)

danniemcq

bravestarr082 wrote:

I've the onset of a flu now, wonder can uniflu give the birdflu the oul 1-2?

shouldn't that be the owl 1-2?

ferdi

\o/

connundrum

Chrissy wrote:

Oh & they're also buying Bird Flu vaccinations (400,000 ish or something like that, I think, could be V wrong though) from an American company who the government, at the same time, is seeking leagal advice on how best to sue said company for some disease it's products caused years ago.

Unusual to see the government potentially wasting millions of €'s... hmmmm :rolleyes:

billy the squid

Peace wrote:

I'd be more fraked out by bodies lying in the street rotting. Better have the freezer units & bags.

they can store the freezer units in the same warehouse as the e-voting machines to save money.

Your more likely to get killed by some mother in a 4x4 driving her little brat to school.

Royale with Cheese

Does anybody actually have any reliable information on the threat of bird flu, with realistic chances of catching and then dying from the disease? All I've heard is second hand information taken from sensationalist news bullsh*t programmes from very gullible people. It's very hard to take seriously.

Peace

billy the squid wrote:

Your more likely to get killed by some mother in a 4x4 driving her little brat to school.

Ah yes... a death with meaning...

Guru Maith Agut

xzanti wrote:

Did anyone else hear the news report on the radio today regarding bird flu?? *Apparently* the HSE have ordered 3,000 body bags and have advised the Government to buy in large freezer units for storing bodies in preparation for the arrival of the disease

Wasn't April Fools day on Saturday... :rolleyes:

Rb

Not too worried as of yet, my concern still lies with Cellafield tbh.

FunkyChicken

Royale with Cheese wrote:

Does anybody actually have any reliable information on the threat of bird flu, with realistic chances of catching and then dying from the disease? All I've heard is second hand information taken from sensationalist news bullsh*t programmes from very gullible people. It's very hard to take seriously.

Here's a crazy idea. Go to news.bbc.co.uk and read something about it.

Royale with Cheese

FunkyChicken wrote:

Here's a crazy idea. Go to news.bbc.co.uk and read something about it.

Wow, who pissed in your corn flakes this morning?

fits

Royale with Cheese wrote:

Does anybody actually have any reliable information on the threat of bird flu, with realistic chances of catching and then dying from the disease? All I've heard is second hand information taken from sensationalist news bullsh*t programmes from very gullible people. It's very hard to take seriously.

All I know is that every strain of human flu has originated in birds, thats why scientists are so worried. I think its only a matter of time until this virus evolves into something that will affect humans and other animals. I guess its the severity of the virus or how deadly/infectious it could be, that is the unknown....

I wouldnt be quick to dismiss this avian flu, its potentially very serious.

Mimikyu

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FunkyChicken

FunkyChicken wrote:

Here's a crazy idea. Go to news.bbc.co.uk and read something about it.

This chicken speaks the truth.

Crash Course:

It speads from birds to birds and is very good at killing them.

It spreads from birds to humans and is very good at killing humans also, but realisticly you would have to be almost french kissing an infected bird to catch it.

It doesn't spread from humans to other humans. It is very very unlikely it will do this despite sensationalist stories.

Summary:
We are not ****ed, drug companies want to make lots of money.

fits

ronoc wrote:

It doesn't spread from humans to other humans. It is very very unlikely it will do this despite sensationalist stories.

Could you back up this statement please? I want to know why you think this

In my opinion, this very thing has happened before and will happen again.

Rb

fits wrote:

Could you back up this statement please? I want to know why you think this

In my opinion, this very thing has happened before and will happen again.

Yeah but that was years ago, long before sophisticated solutions like iodine tablets...

Dave!

ferdi wrote:

when she dies she's gonna need a mass grave of her own.

lol classic, fair play

i heard on the radio earlier that worst case scenario, 5,000 people die.

kinda puts yer mind at ease when ye hear stuff like that!

fits

fits wrote:

Could you back up this statement please? I want to know why you think this

In my opinion, this very thing has happened before and will happen again.

I can't but basicly, even if it does mutate to pass from human to human there is no garuntee that form of the virus will even be fatal to humans.

Rb

DaveMcG wrote:

lol classic, fair play

i heard on the radio earlier that worst case scenario, 5,000 people die.

kinda puts yer mind at ease when ye hear stuff like that!

Though as the National Lottery ad says - "It could be YOU"

fits

ronoc wrote:

I can't but basicly, even if it does mutate to pass from human to human there is no garuntee that form of the virus will even be fatal to humans.

I did say myself that the severity is uncertain, but I'm pretty sure some form or other will become transmissible between humans in the near future. All it could take is one kid with a runny nose falling into a bit of bird poo.

tosh_thedude

Royale with Cheese wrote:

Does anybody actually have any reliable information on the threat of bird flu, with realistic chances of catching and then dying from the disease? All I've heard is second hand information taken from sensationalist news bullsh*t programmes from very gullible people. It's very hard to take seriously.

Agreed.

The question is are we getting more like America, soaking up this type "Fear" news, or fear media bullsh1t. Just because it works over there people.....I for one am not worried.

Dave!

rb_ie wrote:

Though as the National Lottery ad says - "It could be YOU"

*crosses fingers*

fits

fits wrote:

I did say myself that the severity is uncertain, but I'm pretty sure some form or other will become transmissible between humans in the near future.

What are you basing this on?

el tel

bird 'flu? No problem...
http://www.leeharding.net/hideout/?p=26

civdef

Not too worried as of yet, my concern still lies with Cellafield tbh.

Influenza kills hundreds / thousands of people most years, just they're old so noone really notices. If the current bird flu mutated to a form easily transmissable by humans the results could be unpleasant if it maintained it's lethality (it's already killed a good few people who were in close contact with poultry). The big problem with influenza is how easily it spreads between people - very difficult to isolate.

Sellafield poses nothing like the same level of risk.

Patricide

I dunno bout birdflu, it just doesnt freak me out, especially after that sars "Threat". Birdflu has only killed something like 60 people worldwide or somthing, I know if it mutates theres a possibility that we could be ****ed but the chances of that happening arent super high there just there, i mean if the regular flu mutated into somthing more deadly thats when id start worrying.

It personally hasnt put me off eating chicken in the slightst, as long as its cooked well were all fine.

Too many people are overreacting to this just like sars, i mean remember when people were saying that sars could kill millions and millions of people, absolute rubbish.

Now this is somthing that i cant remember where i heard it but i hear in a lot of people that catch bird flu its like a severe cold and there just ****ed out of it for a week or two before they get back on there feet, is this correct in the slightst cause thats the one thing i heard that i am truely sceptical about.

fits

ronoc wrote:

What are you basing this on?

The Past.

Every single strain of influenza originates in birds and mutates into something we can get. Its not like this type of mutation is uncommon or anything. The fact that this is a new strain means that, as it stands at the moment, the human population have no immunity. Plus, these things are cyclical and we're due a pandemic.

By the way, people who arent eating chicken are being ridiculous.

Terry

edwina currie.

Peace

julep wrote:

edwina currie.

Yeah, I'm blreding starvin too... A good ole chip curry... good idea.

Terry

Bovine spongiform encephalopathy

The Sweeper

Avian flu will only become a human pandemic if someone contracts bird flu from an infected bird while simultaneously suffering a human influenza and the avian virus mutates. It could then be transferred as quickly as a human influenza virus. H5N1 causes the body's own immune system to attack over-vigorously, thereby injuring itself.

Subsequently fit people in their late teens to mid-thirties may be most at risk (their immune systems are more aggressive and therefore will do more damage to them).

Still, it's got to happen yet.

Terry

Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease

The Sweeper

CJD is different in that it was a scare-mongered (and still is) affliction said to be down to eating infected beef. It was never said to be transmissable between humans.

Pandemics are transmissable between humans.

Anyway - what's the worry? Nobody here will get it - you have to have real contact with other people to be infected.

Peace

Its getting closer...

Irish Independant wrote:

Bird flu found in Scottish swan
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A SUSPECTED case of bird flu is being investigated in Scotland.

The Scottish Executive said preliminary tests had found "highly pathogenic H5 avian flu" in a sample from a swan found dead in Fife.

A statement said: "The exact strain of the virus is not yet known, tests are continuing and a further result is expected."

Keepers of birds in a protection zone where the swan was found were instructed to isolate their birds from wild birds, by taking them indoors wherever possible.

Measures to restrict the movement of poultry, eggs and poultry products from these zones are also being brought into effect.

The Executive said if disease was confirmed as H5N1 there may be further restrictions put in place, such as housing and movement controls.

Its statement continued: "Whilst highly pathogenic avian influenza has been found the full type is not yet known at this stage.

"There is no reason for public health concern.

"Avian influenza is a disease of birds and whilst it can pass very rarely and with difficulty to humans this requires extremely close contact with infected birds, particularly faeces."

goo

Minesajackdaniels wrote:

It was never said to be transmissable between humans.

Unless you eat them.
Or they donate their pituitary gland.

"Minesajackdaniels wrote:

Pandemics are transmissable between humans.

A pandemic is a global outbreak of disease, so not necessarily.

sportswear

it is tranmissable if a significant genetic shift occurs in the coating of the virus. then it can very well be transmissible to humans..


we are doing it in college at the moment. the lecturer from the national virus reference labratories said we are GUARANTEED to get it. its just a matter of time....

he gave us some lovely death statistics as well.lovely jubly.

takethebiscuit

xzanti wrote:

*Apparently* the HSE have ordered 3,000 body bags and have advised the Government to buy in large freezer units for storing bodies

I know this nurse who used to work in Bermuda, where nothing much ever happened until one day an oil tanker ran aground and all the sailors jumped into the sea and were attacked by mental killer sharks. There wasn't enough room in the morgues, so they had to put most of the bodies in supermarket freezers.
I'd be more worried about that....having to reach down to get me McCain crinkly oven chips through rigid body parts.

Yeah, we're buggered. But isn't it very difficult to actually contract the disease. I think I read that only yesterday.

goo

It takes a lot to contract it now, but if the disease fully mutates or recombines with human influenza then it'd spread like normal flu but be way more dangerous.