you can NOT be good looking AND intelligent!

dahooligan

Before becoming a registered boards user I had not realised that it was indeed impossible to be both intelligent AND attractive.

It would seem that should any of our female posters post a photo of themselves on boards, and then be fortunate to receive a compliment on their appearance from a fellow boardsie, that inevitably, their IQ will drop in the estimation of their peers.

"What the fcuk is he talking about?" I hear you say. Well, allow me to give you some examples.

Kiera, a regular here in after-hours, her opinions hold as much credibility as the next boardsie, that is, of course, until it transpires that she is somewhat attractive, this revelation results in her opinions being dismissed and rubbished by her peers, and with an undeniable branding of stupidity.

Silly Sausage, another regular here on boards, known for the creation of lively, debate filled threads such as 'No Forward Planning EVER!”
We know that SS has graduated with a degree, we know that she is a fairly educated young woman.
Again, her opinions held a level of credibility, her posts brimming with witty, INTELLIGENT, observations; we boardsies respected her.
But Silly Sausage made the mistake of posting some pictures of herself on Boards, and again, once it transpired that she was indeed quite pretty, we boardsters questioned her intellect, and she has since become the object of some totally unnecessary remarks.


Kiera and Sillysausage are not the only boardsies to become victims of this downfall, I have noticed many of our female users have been burned at the hands of some of our pass remarkable posters.

But I focused on them in particular as a result of this comment:

koneko wrote:

MAJD is right on the money, and is just saying what a lot of us think.

I preferred the internet when people like Kiera and sillysausage couldn't figure out how to use it because it was so so confusing for their little brains. Sure it's hard to cram actual information in there when it's so full of insecurities and gossip.

From this thread:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=51134108#post51134108

And I had to ask, what gives koneko, or anyone for that matter, the right to question the intelligence of anyone else?
What is he basing his opinions on?

Do you know the girls personally?
What is your motive for such a comment?
The fact that they, like many others, posted their picture on boards?
Is this enough of a reason to brand someone 'stupid'?

I don't think so, and I would be interested to know what the rest of you have to say on the matter.

Tar.Aldarion

I didn't read your post but yes, yes you can.

is_that_so

I heard a a story about central Europe somewhere where they wanted to do a reality TV show on fashion models based on the assumption that they were beautiful but dumb. The first woman they tested for their show had an IQ of 169

Merrick

What if you're really gorgeous but posted a bad photo? Or if you're not the prettiest, but had some Photoshopping done?

Seriously though, one can be both.

robinph

Think all the proof will be provided by this C4 show later tonight:

RadioTimes wrote:

Beauty and the Geek
10:40pm - 11:40pm
Channel 4
VIDEO Plus+: 762986
Subtitled

1/6

Game show. Seven beautiful girls are matched up with seven supremely intelligent but socially inept guys to complete a series of challenges together for the chance to win a cash prize. In the opening show, the Beauties and the Geeks pick their partners and complete their first task - a general knowledge quiz for the girls and a dance challenge for the boys.

constitutionus

Merrick wrote:

What if you're really gorgeous but posted a bad photo? Or if you're not the prettiest, but had some Photoshopping done?
.

or far more likely, are a balding 40yr old male pervert and just posted a pic of your daughter. this is the internet you know

Steffano2002

I read your post and I can tell you I find that appalling. Did people like koneko ever hear the saying "Never judge a book by its cover" before? And in this particular case they actually read the book before they saw the cover!!! :eek:
I find that just sad...

And now I'm off to look for Kiera's and Sillysausage's pictures!

Tar.Aldarion

Those women were picked because they are incredibly... under the average...

Merrick

constitutionus wrote:

or far more likely, are a balding 40yr old male pervert and just posted a pic of your daughter. this is the internet you know

Story of your life eh?

Aporia

Intelligence is often confused with knowledgeable.

We all judge people on what they look like wether we like it or not. Say you pass someone on the street and their facial features look really mean or angry - you're going to see them as a mean person but chances are they could be the nicest person you'd meet.

fischerspooner

I'm gorgeous and quite intelligent. Anyway what annoys me is that when kiera or any of these people post anything on any thread, a load of nerds start kissing up to them with compliments and agreeing with everything and such.

dahooligan

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

Those women were picked because they are incredibly... under the average...

Under the average what?

I think your missing my point, the fact is that no one should assume that any of the posters here are stupid, not based on the fact they they may have received some positive attention because of their appearance.

Its just wrong.

Rb

dahooligan wrote:

And I had to ask, what gives koneko, or anyone for that matter, the right to question the intelligence of anyone else?
What is he basing his opinions on?

Do you know the girls personally?
What is your motive for such a comment?
The fact that they, like many others, posted their picture on boards?
Is this enough of a reason to brand someone 'stupid'?

So you're saying Koneko is wrong in what he said?
Have you even read the said posters messages? I don't blame him for what he said whatsoever.

And yes, yes you can be both good looking and intelligent. Why not take into consideration good looking posters (and there are plenty of them) who DON'T hi-jack every thread they can and fill it with gossipy bollocks and in some cases pick fights with randomers because their going through PMS(true story).

Koneko was merely calling a spade a spade or, saying what everyone was thinking.

dahooligan wrote:

Under the average what?

I think your missing my point, the fact is that no one should assume that any of the posters here are stupid, not based on the fact they they may have received some positive attention because of their appearance.

It has nothing to do with their appearance, it's to do with how they act on boards on this site (that makes people say things like Koneko said).

dahooligan

rb_ie wrote:

So you're saying Koneko is wrong in what he said?
Have you even read the said posters messages? I don't blame him for what he said whatsoever.

And yes, yes you can be both good looking and intelligent. Why not take into consideration good looking posters (and there are plenty of them) who DON'T hi-jack every thread they can and fill it with gossipy bollocks and in some cases pick fights with randomers because their going through PMS(true story).

Koneko was merely calling a spade a spade or, saying what everyone was thinking.

I am sorry, I really disagree with you, I don't beleive they hi-jack a thread with 'bollocks' anymore then Tar, Pighead, ladylotts, shock_treatment, tbh, or you for that matter.
It doesn't make them stupid, and it certainly does not justify anyone branding them as such on a public forum.

Merrick

I agree with dahooligan, from what I've seen, it's not just keira or SS that fills up space with bollocks. A lot of threads degenerate into nonsense without their help.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

I don't think it's non-existant, but it is rare. The more attractive a girl the more suspicious I am that she'll be... not nessecairly unintelligent, but boring.

Most of the attractive women in this city have the same routeine: work - pub- sleep - work - pub - club -sleep. They seem to sit back and let the men they pick up do all the 'creative work.

Havign said that, there are plenty of men in the same boat. I also think that 1) it's a produck of tabloid-driven cleeb-culture and 2) these people have made the choice to concentrate on looks rather than caharacter.

Tar.Aldarion

dahooligan wrote:

I am sorry, I really disagree with you, I don't beleive they hi-jack a thread with 'bollocks' anymore then Tar, Pighead, ladylotts, shock_treatment, tbh, or you for that matter.
It doesn't make them stupid, and it certainly does not justify anyone branding them as such on a public forum.

I for one, am proud to be in that list.

Nightwish

there are a lot of non-good-looking people who fill threads with nonsensical bullsh*t too.

dahooligan

Nightwish wrote:

there are a lot of non-good-looking people who fill threads with nonsensical bullsh*t too.

Thats my point, a lot of people here post complete rubbish, yet they fly under the rader when the insults are being dashed out?
Why is it that it seems to be just the girls who are singled out for their supposed stupidity, when they are behaving in a manner that is completely common place?

Nightwish

cos they are more prolific posters of sh*te?
Its not my opinion but maybe thats why they are being singled out.

Hobbes

dahooligan wrote:

rambled on a bit

Ever seen a movie where you have no clue what is going on until what was going on in the background was explained to you?

Well that is what is happening here. Has nothing to do with the photos, and no I won't explain further.

Having said that, please post your photo so we can best work out how to respond to you in future. :v:

CodeMonkey

dahooligan, what do you care? Looking for brownie points?

BrenC

Natalie Portman, Point proven, Incredibly hot and intelligent, has a degree in pyschology from Harvard.

Hobbes

BrenC wrote:

Natalie Portman, Point proven, Incredibly hot and intelligent, has a degree in pyschology from Harvard.

If she was so smart why did she try to get into a bar with a fake ID while underage?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Hobbes wrote:

Ever seen a movie where you have no clue what is going on until what was going on in the background was explained to you?

Well that is what is happening here. Has nothing to do with the photos, and no I won't explain further.

Having said that, please post your photo so we can best work out how to respond to you in future. :v:

No. I'm an ugly bastard, accept it.

Tar.Aldarion

Nightwish wrote:

there are a lot of non-good-looking people who fill threads with nonsensical bullsh*t too.

Thanks dear!

BrenC

Hobbes wrote:

If she was so smart why did she try to get into a bar with a fake ID while underage?

lol, so the drinking age is 21 there, and so just because shes very smart they'd let her in even though shes underage?

Pherekydes

dahooligan wrote:

It would seem that should any of our female posters post a photo of themselves on boards, and then be fortunate to receive a compliment on their appearance from a fellow boardsie, that inevitably, their IQ will drop in the estimation of their peers.

Surely this speaks more about the attitude of the peers?

I'm studying Maths, and more than half of my classmates are female, and more than half of them (OK, all of them) are attractive, some extremely so.

I don't draw any conclusions about them other than, "you lucky thing, beauty and brains." But maybe it's just me...

BlitzKrieg

ughh i have to disagree.

cant be f*cked to explain why, maybe i cant, but the simple fact is this is the internet. You cant smack someone for saying something stupid (which the thread you quoted from was in alot of ways) so elaborate put downs and flame wars are what we get instead.

Got any other evidence of people putting them down outside that one thread?

Hagar

Merrick wrote:

What if you're really gorgeous but posted a bad photo? Or if you're not the prettiest, but had some Photoshopping done?

Just to be on the safe side I'm having my brain Photoshopped.

Pythia

I don't think people's dislike of the posters mentioned has anything to do with their pics being posted.

seamus

Pythia wrote:

I don't think people's dislike of the posters mentioned has anything to do with their pics being posted.

^^
What she said.

For the record, koneko is female. So if it is indeed a real affliction that people seem to suffer, then you'll have to agree that it's not gender-specific.

Intelligence is generally not perceived as being able to pass exams, carry out experiments or conduct surveys. It's generally considered a measure of one's ability to apply what they know, and to assimilate and apply new information as it comes along. Plenty of people who left school after their Junior Cert, I would consider extremely intelligent, and on the flipside, I know people with PhD's who know very little outside of their PhD subject. Just because someone has a qualification, doesn't make them intelligent in my eyes.

cormie

There's all forms of intellegence, I remember seeing some chap on The Late Late Show talking about intellegence, he was saying even though David Beckham is perceived as "dumb" that it requires masses of intellegence to kick or control a ball as he, and many other footballers who may not have been the A students, can do.

Fighting Irish

dahooligan wrote:

Before becoming a registered boards user I had not realised that it was indeed impossible to be both intelligent AND attractive.

It would seem that should any of our female posters post a photo of themselves on boards, and then be fortunate to receive a compliment on their appearance from a fellow boardsie, that inevitably, their IQ will drop in the estimation of their peers.

"What the fcuk is he talking about?" I hear you say. Well, allow me to give you some examples.

Kiera, a regular here in after-hours, her opinions hold as much credibility as the next boardsie, that is, of course, until it transpires that she is somewhat attractive, this revelation results in her opinions being dismissed and rubbished by her peers, and with an undeniable branding of stupidity.

Silly Sausage, another regular here on boards, known for the creation of lively, debate filled threads such as 'No Forward Planning EVER!”
We know that SS has graduated with a degree, we know that she is a fairly educated young woman.
Again, her opinions held a level of credibility, her posts brimming with witty, INTELLIGENT, observations; we boardsies respected her.
But Silly Sausage made the mistake of posting some pictures of herself on Boards, and again, once it transpired that she was indeed quite pretty, we boardsters questioned her intellect, and she has since become the object of some totally unnecessary remarks.


Kiera and Sillysausage are not the only boardsies to become victims of this downfall, I have noticed many of our female users have been burned at the hands of some of our pass remarkable posters.

But I focused on them in particular as a result of this comment:



From this thread:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=51134108#post51134108

And I had to ask, what gives koneko, or anyone for that matter, the right to question the intelligence of anyone else?
What is he basing his opinions on?

Do you know the girls personally?
What is your motive for such a comment?
The fact that they, like many others, posted their picture on boards?
Is this enough of a reason to brand someone 'stupid'?

I don't think so, and I would be interested to know what the rest of you have to say on the matter.

cliffs?

im not reading all that ****

Hobart

Hobbes wrote:

Ever seen a movie where you have no clue what is going on until what was going on in the background was explained to you?

I'm watching Blue Velvet at the moment.




And Seamus(PhD) makes a lot of sense.

BuffyBot

Yes, OP, I agree. The price of bread should rise tenfold with the rise of the moon!

monkeyfudge

dahooligan wrote:

We know that SS has graduated with a degree, we know that she is a fairly educated young woman.

I did the same course many years ago... believe me... it's not much to be proud of.

Doodee

The longer your here the more of these stupid threads you see.

There are plenty of females on boards that are considered both Good looking and intelligent.

Theres no need to fight the power just because you dont agree with how others are being perceived on the internet.

instead of making a huge u****ortant discussion on it why not let them just change the minds of the people who are saying such things.

As far as im concerned i pwn all you n00bs

Sparky

Pythia wrote:

I don't think people's dislike of the posters mentioned has anything to do with their pics being posted.

I have to agree with this post. I think the dislikes come across not because of the photos but because if the history behind the person.

nesf

seamus wrote:

Intelligence is generally not perceived as being able to pass exams, carry out experiments or conduct surveys. It's generally considered a measure of one's ability to apply what they know, and to assimilate and apply new information as it comes along. Plenty of people who left school after their Junior Cert, I would consider extremely intelligent, and on the flipside, I know people with PhD's who know very little outside of their PhD subject. Just because someone has a qualification, doesn't make them intelligent in my eyes.

*shrugs*

Anyone who needs to hold up a piece of paper to reinforce their intelligence to other people just illicits pity from me tbh. The same goes for people who name drop authors/books completely out of context and without reason. Or people who think that having an in-depth specialised knowledge of an obscure sub-field makes up for lack of knowledge in everything else.

In fact. In general. By definition. I only consider a minority of people to be intelligent. Most people, unsuprisingly, are just around average.

nesf

BuffyBot wrote:

Yes, OP, I agree. The price of bread should rise tenfold with the rise of the moon!

Oih Reginald! I disagree!

monkeyfudge

Doodee wrote:

instead of making a huge u****ortant discussion on it why not let them just change the minds of the people who are saying such things.

Haha... 'nimp' is censored thanks to those last measure links...

That had me puzzled for a bit.

Sparky

Yeah I was wondering about that

unimportant

MrSinn

This debate is silly
I mean look at Katie Price(Jordan)she'sgood looking and smart!!

nesf

MrSinn wrote:

This debate is silly
I mean look at Katie Price(Jordan)she'sgood looking and smart!!

Jordon is good looking?

Hobart

nesf wrote:

*shrugs*

Anyone who needs to hold up a piece of paper to reinforce their intelligence to other people just illicits pity from me tbh. The same goes for people who name drop authors/books completely out of context and without reason. Or people who think that having an in-depth specialised knowledge of an obscure sub-field makes up for lack of knowledge in everything else.

In fact. In general. By definition. I only consider a minority of people to be intelligent. Most people, unsuprisingly, are just around average.

TBH I think Seamus's post is pretty much agreeing with what you have said in your first line.

I have met lots of intelligent people, who were not qualified to do anything. It does not follow that they were stupid, just un-educated from a certificate perspective.

But 'intelligent' people can act stupid, irrespective of their looks .

As a side line, it never ceases to amaze me the amount of people on www.boards.ie who so obviously depend on the "googleinsms" of this world to support/prove their POV, they plagerise and then try and put forward this information as their own knowledge. That's the pathetic nature of BB's.

Hobart

nesf wrote:

Jordon is good looking?

Missing imo, POV and when I'm gagging.

nesf

Hobart wrote:

Missing imo, POV and when I'm gagging.

What are you on about?

Hobart

nesf wrote:

What are you on about?

*shrugs*

The poster you quoted from was missing the following, after he said that Katie Price(Jordan)was good looking:

1) imo (in my opinion)
2) POV (from my Point Of View)
or
3) When I'm gagging (for it) <= that's implied.

The shrugs bit is included just for you.

MrSinn

Jordan is a peach,if i had a bird that was that cute i would be a very proud man!Just cause she has a ridiculous chest and an abnormal baby(Peter Andre) doesnt mean shes not goodlooking

nesf

I use imho not imo. I don't use POV ever. Do your research before posting please.