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Should i have bet the flop?

  • 30-03-2006 12:49am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭


    PokerStars Game #4456873751: Tournament #21927203, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (60/120) - 2006/03/29 - 19:41:22 (ET)
    Table '21927203 334' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: STEVEN440 (15195 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 2: CrazyBirdToo (4170 in chips)
    Seat 3: andyto (45 in chips)
    Seat 4: JMStarr (4555 in chips)
    Seat 5: lalakis (2095 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 6: Bubba_fettt (14218 in chips)
    Seat 7: gerry87 (11767 in chips)
    Seat 8: nuwanda7 (5365 in chips)
    Seat 9: CrasyWickeT (2280 in chips) is sitting out
    STEVEN440: posts the ante 15
    CrazyBirdToo: posts the ante 15
    andyto: posts the ante 15
    JMStarr: posts the ante 15
    lalakis: posts the ante 15
    Bubba_fettt: posts the ante 15
    gerry87: posts the ante 15
    nuwanda7: posts the ante 15
    CrasyWickeT: posts the ante 15
    JMStarr: posts small blind 60
    lalakis: posts big blind 120
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to gerry87 [Ks Th]
    Bubba_fettt: raises 240 to 360
    gerry87: calls 360
    nuwanda7: folds
    CrasyWickeT: folds
    STEVEN440: folds
    CrazyBirdToo: folds
    andyto: folds
    JMStarr: calls 300
    lalakis: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Js Qd Ah]
    JMStarr: checks
    Bubba_fettt: bets 480
    gerry87: calls 480
    JMStarr: calls 480
    *** TURN *** [Js Qd Ah] [8s]
    JMStarr: checks
    Bubba_fettt: bets 840
    gerry87: raises 840 to 1680
    JMStarr: folds
    Bubba_fettt: calls 840
    *** RIVER *** [Js Qd Ah 8s] [6s]
    Bubba_fettt: bets 5640
    gerry87: raises 3592 to 9232 and is all-in
    Bubba_fettt: calls 3592
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    gerry87: shows [Ks Th] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
    Bubba_fettt: shows [4s As] (a flush, Ace high)
    Bubba_fettt collected 24599 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 24599 | Rake 0
    Board [Js Qd Ah 8s 6s]
    Seat 1: STEVEN440 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: CrazyBirdToo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: andyto (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: JMStarr (small blind) folded on the Turn
    Seat 5: lalakis (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: Bubba_fettt showed [4s As] and won (24599) with a flush, Ace high
    Seat 7: gerry87 showed [Ks Th] and lost with a straight, Ten to Ace
    Seat 8: nuwanda7 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: CrasyWickeT folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    I thought i was invincible on the flop, should i have bet it and get rid of him or try to get him to keep betting it?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,615 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Fold to pre-flop raise, you have a hand of feet.
    Flop is OK.
    Turn is poor, raise enough that flush-draw is not getting odds if it calls. I make it roughly 5K in the pot when you call so you should raise another 4-5K.
    River raise isnt good, only likely to get called by a hand that beats you here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    I originally thought "dont raise river" but I think this amount will get called by the likes of 2-pair .... but he pretty much never has 2pair.

    Fold preflop - you have bad position, bad relative position and bad cards.

    Raise the flop - you have the nut straight on a board with 3-broadways on it (aka somebody else is likely to have something good to pay you with). This would allow you to push any turn.

    If not, then raise more on the turn (you price in a flush draw, AND pay him your full stack when it hits).

    Basically - this sucked on pretty much every street.

    I think raising the river is .... ok I guess, but when he calls the turn and leads hard at the river, he prolly has a flush.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Pre-Flop - Fold
    Flop - Fine - Nothing Wrong with making it 2k or so here though
    Turn - Dislike the min raise - Push if you re-raised Flop, if you flat called I'd bet about pot.
    River - The Pot should be over or All-in by now hopefully, but as it played out it was hard to put him on a Flush, I can't decide if I want to try and extract maximum value from an badly played trips/ 2 Pair or minimise the risk of going out here. The blinds are OK, if you call and lose you'll still have 30BB's. If you push and lose you're out, but possibly leaving some value on the table (not too much though really - unless this guy is a donkey to play two pair or trips like this) Hmmmm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    1. Fold preflop

    2. I hate the minraise on the turn.


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