Do you think that American TV and Movies has changed us?

blu_sonic

Does anyone else think that the huge amount of American media has changed our outlook on life from how we dress to how we speak?

Look at some of the younger kids they're dressing like teenagers at 11 or so, the way we speak (1 instace is the phrase "going commando" from friends). Look Micky Dees are everywhere and Starbucks will be next.

Is it just a matter of time before were playing baseball and (God everthing else amercanised we do.)

Blisterman

Going commando's not originally from Friends is it?

RuggieBear

like, uh huh.

Sangre

And in America they have St. Patrick's Day, River Dance and drink guinness. So what?

RuggieBear

Blisterman wrote:

Going commando's not originally from Friends is it?

http://www.wordspy.com/words/gocommando.asp

altho i'm pretty sure we used the phrase in school....and that was befoer friends came out.

blu_sonic

I'm not saying its a bad thing i asked if you think society is changing because of it, are we loosing our own identy to it

monkeyfudge

My nephew insists on refering to plastersine as Play Dough.

Gegerty

monkeyfudge wrote:

My nephew insists on refering to plastersine as Play Dough.

Play dough is not an americanism, its different to plastersine. Play dough is the stuff that smells nice and makes you want to eat it (but just tastes salty). Plastersine is the regular stuff that comes flat and corrigated.

I think British TV influences us more. Like totally.

ivan087

It is sad that we are heading down the american path. but its peoples choice. people choose to go to that horribly bland starbucks, choose to watch the trash that holywood throws at us, choose to listen to britany spears and other money grabbing 'artists'. people just feel safe by following trends it seems. follow the path that american copperations want us to follow and you wont be challenged, wont be stimulated and wont be offended...

monkeyfudge

Gegerty wrote:

Play dough is not an americanism, its different to plastersine. Play dough is the stuff that smells nice and makes you want to eat it (but just tastes salty). Plastersine is the regular stuff that comes flat and corrigated.

I think British TV influences us more. Like totally.

Yes. But he refers to all types of plastersine as playdough... which is a very amercian brand. Even Walace and Gromit are made out of playdough to him.. and you really can't make sh*t out of Playdough.

Morrigan

Of course American TV and movies have changed us. We expect more from life now, I think. We all want to be rich and famous, and have bigger houses, and skinnier bodies and bigger boobs and squarer jaws. We're seeking happiness through materialism more than previous generations.
As Coolio, in his infinite wisdom, proclaimed -
"Too much television watchin' got me chasin' dreams..."

Blisterman

In all fairness, Starbucks has probably the best coffee, you can get in Dublin.

blu_sonic

agreed i love their coffee, it was in london that i started drinking their coffee

Pighead

You talkin' to me blu_sonic? You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? Well, who the hell else are you talkin' to? You talkin' to me? Well, I'm the only one here. Who the f--k do you think you're talkin' to?
Frankly my dear blu_sonic Pighead doesn't give a damn. But thats only because i'm hungry and cranky. Off to the canteen now but I'll be back.

HelterSkelter

Blisterman wrote:

In all fairness, Starbucks has probably the best coffee, you can get in Dublin.

People queueing in Dundrum for their coffee is pretty sad methinks. I'm not into coffee, I'm into pints and it will be a cold day in hell before I queue outside a pub for a pint!!!

blu_sonic

I wouldn't wait outside but i do like their coffee

jimbono1

a lot of women in dublin nowadays act like those women from sex in the city

Pighead

jimbono1 wrote:

a lot of women in dublin nowadays act like those women from sex in the city

Yeah the female acting scene in Dublin has been improving over the past few years but to compare them to those wonderful actresses in Sex and The City is just plain fanciful. Are you an actress jimbono1.If not then whats your angle?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Absolutely. We're far more commerical that we used to be. Also, looking at skaters and pre-teen and teenage kids, they're a lot more brand-concious these days. I never remember refusing to wear certain clothes becuase it wasn't a certian prcie or a certain manufacturer.

I also thing there's a lot more fear out there these days, and a lot more people using fear to sell.

Photi

monkeyfudge wrote:

My nephew insists on refering to plastersine as Play Dough.

Plasticine? Play-Dough?

What ever happened to good old-fashioned marla?

blu_sonic

It was Mála no r

ivan087

ivan087 wrote:

It is sad that we are heading down the american path. but its peoples choice. people choose to go to that horribly bland starbucks, choose to watch the trash that holywood throws at us, choose to listen to britany spears and other money grabbing 'artists'. people just feel safe by following trends it seems. follow the path that american copperations want us to follow and you wont be challenged, wont be stimulated and wont be offended...

Well frankly, much and all as I'd rather to listen to the wise words of Confucious from some zen master on the plains of Tibet, there is just something ever so slightly accessible about American culture. Tibetan cinema, for example, is rather complex and the nuances of their language difficult to pick up for the sake of a movie...

Photi

blu_sonic wrote:

It was Mála no r

Wanna bet?

Sleepy

jimbono1 wrote:

a lot of women in dublin nowadays act like those women from sex in the city

Aye, it's ****in' tragic to watch the silly bints carry on like that alright. Why do otherwise intelligent women think that acting like a tard is a good thing? :rolleyes:

R-KEANE

I love the way America jumps to save the world in the movies but they are changing us in a bad way. (not enitrely and its the choice of the irish). Shows like dawson creek or whatever else has kids looking snobby and disinterested. The amount of kids with ambition these days seems to be fading. Thats a worry and I blame Buffy. Too much attitude from these shows. Its even leeking into Fair City. I think Irish people are crying out for a modern identity and will gladly take the american one as it like so like yuhu and stuff innit.

Rb

Sleepy wrote:

Aye, it's ****in' tragic to watch the silly bints carry on like that alright. Why do otherwise intelligent women think that acting like a tard is a good thing? :rolleyes:

They're probably having their mid life crisis and think it's "cool" and will make them more metropolitan/sophisticated if they act that way.
Idiots.

jimbono1

from my experience they seem to act more like it a lot more when their in big groups, in all fairness their generally sound when you get them on their own, from my experience anyway

Ruu_Old

Our English teacher used to give out sheet to us if we pronounced anything in American English, example the world "schedule" she told is meant to be pronounced "shedge-ule" and not "skedge-ule" like most of us do, the ballocking we would get! :eek:

R-KEANE

Ruu wrote:

Our English teacher used to give out sheet to us if we pronounced anything in American English, example the world "schedule" she told is meant to be pronounced "shedge-ule" and not "skedge-ule" like most of us do, the ballocking we would get! :eek:

makes sense though. shedjool is easier to say when you are drunk

Ciaran500

We're all getting more materialistic, more commercial and our kids are trying to act older. It must be America's fault :rolleyes:

Nalz

yep - if the guy beside me here says dude one more time i'll crack!!

R-KEANE

Trilla wrote:

yep - if the guy beside me here says dude one more time i'll crack!!

oh yeah, a friend of mine says 'duder' whats that about?

Fast_Mover

ya i always would have said mala too..!!
only heard marla for the first time about 2weeks ago when i was teaching and another student teacher asked me if i had some 'marla' to spare..

Ruu_Old

R-KEANE wrote:

oh yeah, a friend of mine says 'duder' whats that about?

That was the "dell dudes" fault, burn the fecker!

SteveS

Ciaran500 wrote:

We're all getting more materialistic, more commercial and our kids are trying to act older. It must be America's fault :rolleyes:

In all fairness, people over here complain about all these shows too. It's not like Dawson's Creek, Sex in the City, or the "OC" are representative of how most people live (or want to live).

R-KEANE

SteveS wrote:

In all fairness, people over here complain about all these shows too. It's not like Dawson's Creek, Sex in the City, or the "OC" are representative of how most people live (or want to live).

but they are, they are just false. However, Irish kids like, whether they like what they see or not, feel its the right way to act. Peer pressure comes into it.

dundalk cailin

yep think that we are becoming more americanised..
my french friends say i proclaim 'Omigod' so often!

daveirl

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blu_sonic

we need the skangers to show us the light, howrya, storeee bud, cmere etc.

blu_sonic

daveirl wrote:

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what do you mean i support a dublin club over 100 years old? older than most GAA teams! i never stated i was for or against this culture. if you spent time reading my post you'll see i said i like using starbucks, i think there is pros and cons to it really

Wertz

SteveS wrote:

In all fairness, people over here complain about all these shows too. It's not like Dawson's Creek, Sex in the City, or the "OC" are representative of how most people live (or want to live).

The difference is that most yanks know this isn't how it really is, just like how we know when we watch Into the West.

I had my eyes opened when I actually went to the US...before that I really only had exported culture (read Hollywood and 80's TV) and a small number of Americans I'd met over here to guage it all on.


That said, our accent has definitely been highly influenced, especially below a certain age, where people were exposed to a plethora of US influence through various satellite TV channels, the Hollywood thing and lately the 'net.

We're definitely in 51st state territory....we had Maccy D's here, what, 20 yrs ago? Lately though we have multiplex cinemas...sorry, movie theatres , so many more aspirations like the big house, the big car, etc , which in turn is made possible by the celtic tiger, itself partky due to the influence of american multinational companies on the economy. maybe I'm generalising a little, but all those little things are combining to make a bigger picture.

FFS didn't I see an ad for TGI ****ing Fridays opening some place in Dublin?
Only a matter of time before we have IHOP and whoever else....fair enough, that's globalisation for you, and it's not necessarily a bad thing, but our culture is definitely the worse off for it.
As someone said above, we're the ones who make the choices on what we watch, but kids plonked on fronty of a TV that's on all day,m from an early age, are going to emanate what they see on there, and it's only going to increase.

I'm in no way anti-american, but you have to admit that we're a small country influenced by a huge one who we share some common bonds with...even down to our currnt immigration levels.

constitutionus

you know i actually think its the reverse. as some have mentioned earlier what we see from the US generally only covers LA and New york. and yes we have absorbed the coloquilisims but the majority of irish dialogue is inpenetrable to the yanks, and the vast majority of em culturally live a totally different life to us.
take sex. i have to laugh when people call ireland sexually repressive, have you seen what the yanks do in terms of their dating scene, its positively puritanical:eek: i mean theres a reason why they all think european women are gagging for it. those poor bastards cant get a beer till theyre 21 let alone feel a girl up till theyve met the parents:) .in a weird way we're already what they want to be. a country where you can get laid when you want and locked out of your head every week without some bible thumper telling you your going to hell.
this probably explains why irish people do so well over there, i mean hell they think colin farrell is some kinda ollie reed reborn when fact is he drinks as much as your ordinary lad down the local, they actually think hes a rebel rouser !. i deal with tourists alot myself and you can see the culture shock on their faces, and you'd be amazed how many of em still say "sir" and "ma'am". i cant think of any other english speaking nation that still does that

so no, i dont think american media has changed us. in fact i think were slowly changing them, just look what carol coleman did to bush. poor bugger hasnt been questioned like that in his life:D

metrovelvet

consitutionus

That is seriously deluded. Are you shrooming?

Lirange

Ireland is influenced at least as much by Britain... if not arguably moreso in some respects ... partly because of proximity. So we rue the corrosive effects of Americanisation while we shop in Tesco's and watch Brit fare on BBC and Sky networks.

Every generation has accused the next of being too materialistic. That refrain is as old as dirt.

Mossy Monk

Wertz wrote:

FFS didn't I see an ad for TGI ****ing Fridays opening some place in Dublin?

hardly a new thing. there is one in Blanchardstown with ages

monkeyfudge

Mossy Monk wrote:

hardly a new thing. there is one in Blanchardstown with ages

And one at St. Stephens Green for about 5 years now too.

The one thing I always disliked about America is the fact that there's shag all variety there. Walking down a street you'd pass 4 Starbucks, 3 TGIF's, and god knows what else.

I hope Ireland wont become that way. I love being able to walk into coffee shops and sitting down without some fat eejit asking for a "skinny lowfat cappuchino extra lime hold the lard double espresso".

As for American TV, it is actually effecting us I believe. Moreso the younger generation. I presume that when alot of us were growing up, we didn't have satelite TV, so most of the shows we got were either English or Irish shows. The one thing i hate to see is young people, especially girls, thinking its "cool" to act stupid. I think this stems from American tv.

Furry Burger

constitutionus wrote:

you know i actually think its the reverse. as some have mentioned earlier what we see from the US generally only covers LA and New york. and yes we have absorbed the coloquilisims but the majority of irish dialogue is inpenetrable to the yanks, and the vast majority of em culturally live a totally different life to us.
take sex. i have to laugh when people call ireland sexually repressive, have you seen what the yanks do in terms of their dating scene, its positively puritanical:eek: i mean theres a reason why they all think european women are gagging for it. those poor bastards cant get a beer till theyre 21 let alone feel a girl up till theyve met the parents:) .in a weird way we're already what they want to be. a country where you can get laid when you want and locked out of your head every week without some bible thumper telling you your going to hell.
this probably explains why irish people do so well over there, i mean hell they think colin farrell is some kinda ollie reed reborn when fact is he drinks as much as your ordinary lad down the local, they actually think hes a rebel rouser !. i deal with tourists alot myself and you can see the culture shock on their faces, and you'd be amazed how many of em still say "sir" and "ma'am". i cant think of any other english speaking nation that still does that

so no, i dont think american media has changed us. in fact i think were slowly changing them, just look what carol coleman did to bush. poor bugger hasnt been questioned like that in his life:D

I agree with this dude, dont form your opinions of americans on TV shows and flims the vast majority of which are city major city based...if you go to the bible belt in the mid west things are very different. The only way you will see serious violence or even a t!t on TV over there is on cable, HBO especially.
I would consider americans to be very conservative as a nation, I mean look at the all the jive clinton created with a crafty blow job...they spent ten times more investigating that then they did investigating 9/11.
All you gotta do is drive through any town in the mid west and see the size of their churchs...massive, they are the centre of most communities.

MorningStar

Yes they have effected us.
Stupid people think that US laws apply here. I actually hada friend tell me you could plead the 5th here. I tried to explain well it wouldn't be the 5th here it would be something else and how I wasn't sure what is covered here and not covered. He insisted you could plead the 5th here and couldn't even tell me what the it was the 5th of.

English TV also has an effect as many people in Ireland believe there is common law wife and husband here but we have nothing similar, no such rule etc...

The things is go to any country and you can see how much US and English TV is on.

If it's the America of Seinfeld and Larry David, gimme that over the Europe of 'Allo 'Allo and Marcel Marceau any day.

SteveS

take sex. i have to laugh when people call ireland sexually repressive, have you seen what the yanks do in terms of their dating scene, its positively puritanical i mean theres a reason why they all think european women are gagging for it. those poor bastards cant get a beer till theyre 21 let alone feel a girl up till theyve met the parents .in a weird way we're already what they want to be. a country where you can get laid when you want and locked out of your head every week without some bible thumper telling you your going to hell.

I agree with this dude, dont form your opinions of americans on TV shows and flims the vast majority of which are city major city based...if you go to the bible belt in the mid west things are very different. The only way you will see serious violence or even a t!t on TV over there is on cable, HBO especially.
I would consider americans to be very conservative as a nation, I mean look at the all the jive clinton created with a crafty blow job...they spent ten times more investigating that then they did investigating 9/11.
All you gotta do is drive through any town in the mid west and see the size of their churchs...massive, they are the centre of most communities.

As an American that lives in the "mid-west, bible belt," I would have to say that these perceptions are equally delusional. I would write more, but my friends and I are going to get in my truck so that we can throw bibles at the homosexuals and fornicators. Then its off to church.