NTL Digital channel lineup changed - C6 added - ITV3 dropped [Merged]

Alun

Just noticed that the EPG has changed to put Setanta, Channel6 and City Channel on 105, 106 and 107. Oh well, finally a use for the Favourites feature

lardboy

They've missed a trick here. The UK channels should have moved to 111-114 (BBC1 - C4, respectively) and the Sky Sports channels should have moved back to 401 upwards to keep some logic to the system. Mind you, ntl and logic last met sometime during the 90s.

What ABC1 is doing up at 506 is a mystery as well. The whole 500 category, to be honest; half of it belongs in the 100s and the other half in the 200s, and QVC belongs in the bin.

Sort it out, ntl!

Alun

I can sort of vaguely understand Channel6 being in there (the jury's out for me until it actually starts), City Channel is just a pure waste of electrons and Setanta is a *sports* channel, put it back into the sports section where it belongs and I can ignore it like I have up till now. Can I lobby ntl: for a feature on the STB to permanently delete some channels?

bk

Yes, just as I had suggested a few weeks ago, BBC News 24 has moved to 201 to replace ITV News and 206 now has BBC World, so an extra channel

Nice to see folks at NTL listen to my suggestions

I'm going to have to reprogramme my TiVo's channels.

The reason Setanta, c6 and City Channel are where they are is because it reflects what most people assume would be the line up for DTT if it ever launches.

bk

lardboy wrote:

They've missed a trick here. The UK channels should have moved to 111-114 (BBC1 - C4, respectively) and the Sky Sports channels should have moved back to 401 upwards to keep some logic to the system. Mind you, ntl and logic last met sometime during the 90s.

Yes that would have been a really good idea, it would have left room in 108 and 109 and 110 for future Irish channels (I'm sure there will be at least one more when DTT launches in Ireland, probably a RTE+ channel).

paulm17781

I think moving Setenta is a really stupid idea. People don't ask "What is on the Irish Channels?". They more likely wonder what is on the sports channels. Either way the addition of new channels is always welcome.

tvbrat

lardboy wrote:

They've missed a trick here. The UK channels should have moved to 111-114 (BBC1 - C4, respectively) and the Sky Sports channels should have moved back to 401 upwards to keep some logic to the system. Mind you, ntl and logic last met sometime during the 90s.

I've noticed that ITV3 has gone
it used to be on channel 114

the help menu
no.8 says 13- 184
on monday it was 13-185


so they seem to have removed ITV3
.........................................

just checked the help menu
it now reads 13-185
They must have added another channel

BendiBus

So if I've set some reminders to "auto tune" so they get recorded, will the stb tune to the correct channel or to the old number?

ITV3 gone? Bugger. I watch The Bill on ITV3 as I'm never home in time to catch it on UTV. Not to mention a couple of good programs too.

tvbrat

BendiBus wrote:

So if I've set some reminders to "auto tune" so they get recorded, will the stb tune to the correct channel or to the old number?

ITV3 gone? Bugger. I watch The Bill on ITV3 as I'm never home in time to catch it on UTV. Not to mention a couple of good programs too.

I think you may have to re-set your reminders,
my favourites changed with the new line up

subway

yet more fun with windows media centre
bloody ntl

patrickmooney

Does anyone have the new complete line up? Nothing on the NTL website (surprise surprise!). Is Setenta Sports on 401 too?

subway

heres the updated list for ntl digital basic if anyone needs to rest their media centre


http://www.austinville.net/Book1.xls

BendiBus

If that spreadsheet is correct then CNN and National Geographic are gone too? :mad:

subway

theyre gone from basic,
nat geo want on it in the first place.

this is not the full digital package, only basic digital

BendiBus

subway wrote:

theyre gone from basic,
nat geo want on it in the first place.

this is not the full digital package, only basic digital

Which one is basic? the €5 package?

NG was on my service last night and I hope it still is!

subway

yeah,
im on the 5euro package and have never had national geographic.

subway

just chekced - nat geo channel 215 is locked out as i mentioned.

heres is the full (outdated) liest from ntl themselves
http://www.ntl.com/locales/ie/en/athome/dtv/epg/epg.html#

link is in the middle of the page

Drummerboy2

don't see Setanta on that list

subway

on my excel file or the outdated ntl list?

tvbrat

Hi here is the NTL line up
I copied it from my EPG
today, I think I got all
the channels.





101 - RTE ONE

102 - Network 2

103 - TV3

104 - TG4

105 - Setanta Sports

106 - Channel 6

107 - City Channel

108 - BBC One

109 - BBC Two

110 - UTV

111 - Channel 4

112 - E4

113 - E4 + 1

114 - Sky One

115 - Sky Two

116 - BBC Three

117 - BBC Four

118 - More 4

119 - More 4 + 1

120 - UKTV Gold

121 - UKTV Gold + 1

122 - UKTV G2

123 - Hallmark

124 - Living TV

125 - Living TV + 1

126 - Reality TV

127 - Paramount Comedy

128 - Paramount Comedy 2

129 - FTN

130 - Sci-Fi Channel

131 - 151 - Blank Channels

151 - UKTV Drama

152 - 200 - Blank Channels

*News & Documentaries *

201 - BBC News 24

202 - Sky News

203 - Euro News

204 - CNBC Europe

205 - CNN

206 - BBC World

207 - Bloomberg

208 - Discovery

209 - Discovery + 1

210 - Discovery Travel & Adventure

211 - Discovery Science

212 - Discovery Civilisation

213 - Discovery Animal Planet

214 - Discovery Wings

215 - National Geographic

216 - Adventure 1

217 - History Channel

218 - Biography Channel

218 - 300 - Blank Channels

*Movies*

301 - Sky Movies 1

302 - Sky Movies 2

303 - Sky Movies 3

304 - Sky Movies 4

305 - Sky Movies 5

306 - Sky Movies 6

307 - Sky Movies 7

308 - Sky Movies 8

309 - Blank Channel

310 - Sky Movies 9

311 - Sky Movies 10

312 - 319 - Blank Channels

320 - Sky Cinema 1

321 - Sky Cinema 2

322 - Blank Channel

323 - Film Four

324 - Film Four + 1

325 - Film Four Weekly

326 - MGM

327 - Turner Classic Movies

*Sports*

401 - Setanta Sports

402 - Sky Sports 1

403 - Sky Sports 2

404 - Sky Sports 3

405 - Sky Sports Xtra

406 - 407 - Blank Channels

408 - Sky Sports News

409 - Blank Channel

410 - Setanta Sports Xtra 1

411 - Setanta Sports Xtra 2

412 - Celtic TV

413 - Rangers TV

414 - 416 - Blank Channels

417 - Racing UK

418 - At The Races

419 - Blank Channel

420 - NASN

421 - Blank Channel

422 - Extreme Sports

423 - 427 - Blank Channels

428 - MUTV

429 - 500 - Blank Channels

*Lifestyle*

501 - E!

502 - Fashion TV

503 - UKTV Bright Ideas

504 - Discovery Health

505 - QVC

506 - ABC1

507 - Discovery Real Time

508 - Bravo

509 - Brave + 1

510 - Men & Motors

511 - Performance

512 - 600 - Blank Channels

*Kids*

601 - The Den

602 - Blank Channel

603 - Boomerang

604 - Nickelodeon

605 - Nick Replay

606 - Nick Toons TV

607 - Nick JR

608 - CBBC

609 - Cbeebies

610 - Jetix

611 - 612 - Blank Channels

613 - The Disney Channel

614 - Disney Cinemagic

615 - Disney Cinemagic + 1

616 - PlayDisney

617 - Toonami

618 - Discovery Kids

619 - Blank Channel

620 - Cartoon Network

621 - 700 - Blank Channels

*Music*

701 - MTV

702 - MTV 2

703 - MTV Hits

704 - MTV Base

705 - MTV Dance

706 - VH1

707 - VH1 Classic

708 - VH2

709 - TMF

710 - The Box

711 - Kiss

712 - Smash Hits! TV

713 - Magic

714 - Q

715 - Kerrang!

716 - The Hits

717 - 718 - Blank Channels

719 - Bliss

720 - Flaunt

721 - Scuzz

722 - 807 - Blank Channels

*Specialist*

808 - Zee TV

809 - 814 - Blank Channels

815 - EWTN

816 - The God Channel

817 - 824 - Blank Channels

825 - TV5

826 - 830 - Blank Channels

831 - EuroNews FRA

832 - EuroNews DEU

833 - EuroNews ITA

834 - EuroNews ESP

835 - EuroNews PRT

836 - EuroNews RUS

837 - 857 - Blank Channels

858 - TVX

859 - The Adult Channel

860 - Playboy TV

861 - PPV Football Channel

862 - PPV Channel

863 - 900 - Blank Channels

*Radio*

901 - RTE Radio 1

902 - 2FM

903 - Lyric FM

904 - Today FM

905 - R Na G

906 - BBC Radio Ulster

907 - BBC Radio 1

908 - BBC Radio 2

909 - BBC Radio 3

910 - BBC Radio 4

911 - BBC Radio 5 Live

912 - BBC Radio 6 Music

913 - BBC World Service

914 - Galway Bay FM

915 - Classic FM

916 - Jazz FM

917 - WRN

918 - UCB Europe

919 - Planet Rock

920 - The Storm

921 - Core Radio

922 - Capital Gold

923 - XFM

924 - Kiss Radio

925 - Kerrang Radio

926 - Smash Hits Radio

927 - Radio Caroline

928 - BBC 5 Live Extra

929 - BBC 7

930 - FM104

931 - 98FM

932 - NewsTalk 106

933 - Country Mix

934 - Spin 1038

ciaran76

I wonder why they got rid of ITV 3? I wonder will they come back with ITV2 ,3 and 4 some time in the future?

LucyBliss

Losing ITV3 like that is really bugging me. I was really enjoying Due South/Hannay/Poirot/Sherlock Holmes and a few more. I really hope this is just a glitch and they bring it back.

BendiBus

And I'll have to rush home now to catch the Bill at 8pm instead of the handy midnight showing in ITV3. I'll just havt to start recording from ITV1 from now on.

And just remembered the repeats of "The Vice" are on ITV3 too. :mad:

I'm sure there's a few other things I watched on it too. Quite disappointed.

Alun

Just noticed ITV3 had disappeared too ... bugger! Just started watching repeats of Murder in Suburbia. Setanta is also still on 401 as well for some reason.

What pisses me off more than the fact that channels come and go, is that no-one at ntl: even attempts to communicate to us what changes are happening. They could easily put a flyer in with the bi-monthly bill, for example, or even send a newsletter or something warning of these changes.

tvbrat

patrickmooney wrote:

Does anyone have the new complete line up? Nothing on the NTL website (surprise surprise!). Is Setenta Sports on 401 too?

Hi patrickmooney

I have posted the full line up, I think
to a new thread, as I thought it was too long for this one

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054906589

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on the Channel 6 preview, they have a list of the changes made to the line up
they say at the end of the screen
"please note ITV3 is no longer broadcast on this service"

subway

heres the basic listing for us bums what can only afford 5 bucks a month

http://www.austinville.net/Book1.xls

rockal

Channel6 on NTL 106 is currently screening changes to line-up

SteM

LucyBliss wrote:

Losing ITV3 like that is really bugging me. I was really enjoying Due South/Hannay/Poirot/Sherlock Holmes and a few more. I really hope this is just a glitch and they bring it back.

I was speaking to a girl in NTL today about something different and mentioned the loss of ITV3 to her. She said that ITV had stopped running ITV3 completely, I told her that it was still being broadcast in the UK but only NTL have dropped it. Then she said 'oh yes that's right, it's not on our system anymore'.

She said she didn't think it woud be back but who knows, NTL staff don't seem to have a clue. The missus will go mad, she was really enjoying seeing Due South every night.

The tax man

Offical lineup.

Discontinuing of ITV3 on Digital

At the same time, ITV3 is being removed from the Digital TV service.
This is a result of ITV’s recent decision to cease broadcasting ITV’s digital channels on Irish TV platforms. ntl is in ongoing discussions with ITV to relaunch ITV3 and other ITV digital channels to the ntl digital service in the future.

GerardKeating

The following are missing from the Galway Line-up

• 808 - Zee TV
• 927 - Radio Caroline
• 930 - FM104
• 931 - 98FM
• 932 - NewsTalk 106
• 933 - Country Mix
• 934 - Spin 1038

decies

GerardKeating wrote:

The following are missing from the Galway Line-up

• 808 - Zee TV
• 927 - Radio Caroline
• 930 - FM104
• 931 - 98FM
• 932 - NewsTalk 106
• 933 - Country Mix
• 934 - Spin 1038

Ditto waterford would like newstalk down here.
This inequality between dublin and the rest of the country would annoy you:mad: :mad:

BendiBus

Still a bit pissed off about the loss of ITV3. Particularly the lack of warning which can't be blamed on an ITV decision surely?

GerardKeating

decies wrote:

Ditto waterford would like newstalk down here.
This inequality between dublin and the rest of the country would annoy you:mad: :mad:

not as bad as this time last year, and the radio stations are on the net, mostly.

gerard

bk

On the Channel 6 106 preview channel at the moment it is giving details of the new channel line up. It specifically says that ITV3 has been removed.

In fairness ITV3 being removed probably isn't NTL's fault, ITV seem to have made the decision to pull all ITV channels and listings from Ireland, it would seem due to legal actions by TV3 (the bastards) against ITV.

Hopefully if ITV buy TV3, this will be sorted and all the ITV channels will return to NTL.

The missing ITV channels are a particularly large hole in NTL's line up (ITV 2, 3, 4 and CITV) and it will give people another reason to move to FTA, so I'm sure NTL will be anxious to get ITV back to plug the hole.

rogue-entity

The cable network in Waterford is the best of the three NTL networks, with Fibre feeding the network. Yet, the waterford network has the fewest number of channels (although it has been a while since I checked last).

LucyBliss

I emailed NTL last night and got this reply this morning:

Im afraid SKY has decided to remove this channel from the channel line-up, as far as im aware this is for good, it seemed to be a quite popular station, but there is no plans at the moment to bring this back unfortunately.

The channels were moved to make room for new channels that will be coming soon to the broadcast, i can appreciate in looking to be notified, but we were not aware of it ourselves, the company SKY are able to move and change channels around at there own discretion, it is always in the contract with ntl that this may occur.

Can anyone tell me what SKY have to do with NTL? I'm not being sarky here, I genuinely have no real idea of the ins and outs of how NTL gets its feed and all that. Does that mean then that people who subscribe to SKY digital don't get any of the ITV channels?

You know, I really hate being at the whim of faceless corporate monkeys like this. I realise there are worse things in the world than losing a TV channel but it was very nice to come home after a crappy day's work and settle in to watch Due South and the like and feel a bit human again. Ah well.

bk

LucyBliss wrote:

Im afraid SKY has decided to remove this channel from the channel line-up, as far as im aware this is for good, it seemed to be a quite popular station, but there is no plans at the moment to bring this back unfortunately.

The channels were moved to make room for new channels that will be coming soon to the broadcast, i can appreciate in looking to be notified, but we were not aware of it ourselves, the company SKY are able to move and change channels around at there own discretion, it is always in the contract with ntl that this may occur.

Can anyone tell me what SKY have to do with NTL? I'm not being sarky here, I genuinely have no real idea of the ins and outs of how NTL gets its feed and all that. Does that mean then that people who subscribe to SKY digital don't get any of the ITV channels?

Most cable companies (including NTL) receive most of the channels via satellite. At the Headend, NTL will have lots of satellite dishes pulling the channel broadcasts off Sky.

However the excuse they gave you above is complete BS. All the ITV channels are available on satellite Free To Air, that means anyone with a satellite dish in Ireland can receive all the ITV channels for free, ITV no longer uses Sky carriage and you don't need a Sky sub to receive them.

decies

Point taken. But when they roll out the pvr type box dublin first maybe this year,rest of country ,take a pick?

decies

bk wrote:

Most cable companies (including NTL) receive most of the channels via satellite. At the Headend, NTL will have lots of satellite dishes pulling the channel broadcasts off Sky.

However the excuse they gave you above is complete BS. All the ITV channels are available on satellite Free To Air, that means anyone with a satellite dish in Ireland can receive all the ITV channels for free, ITV no longer uses Sky carriage and you don't need a Sky sub to receive them.

Fair point. What i cant understand with itv fta why have we not it2 and itv4 on our ntl digital and itv3 as well.
Regard ntl comments to make way for new channels,this could be anywhere between two months and a year and a half:mad: :mad:

GerardKeating

rockal wrote:

Channel6 on NTL 106 is currently screening changes to line-up

106 dead on the Galway network.

GerardKeating

rogue-entity wrote:

The cable network in Waterford is the best of the three NTL networks, with Fibre feeding the network. Yet, the waterford network has the fewest number of channels (although it has been a while since I checked last).

Actually, all Waterford is missing is a few Radio Stations (Radio Caroline and the Dublin Locals) and the option of a sub to Zee TV (Ch 808).

Otherwise the 3 networks got the ame line up.

icdg

Blaming Sky is a red herring. This is a decision which has all the hallmarks of ITV plc about it. I notice the one remaining ITV digital channel, Men and Motors, hasn't been pulled though...

Not best pleased with the new line-up - giving Channel 6 a high slot in the entertainment category fair enough, but moving all the core UK terrestrials for it? Does this mean any time a new Irish channel launches the entertainment category will have to be totally rejigged. And Irish or not, there's precious little justificationf for giving Setanta Sports two very prominent EPG positions, #105 and #401. It simply doesn't belong in Entertainment.

LucyBliss

bk wrote:

However the excuse they gave you above is complete BS. All the ITV channels are available on satellite Free To Air, that means anyone with a satellite dish in Ireland can receive all the ITV channels for free, ITV no longer uses Sky carriage and you don't need a Sky sub to receive them.

Thanks for that info. And yeah, I was wondering myself about the validity of their excuse there especially as my mother called into the NTL office here in Galway to find out what was going on and while the woman behind the desk had no idea, she asked the manager who said that it was an ITV decision to pull out of the lineup.

JDxtra

bk wrote:

Most cable companies (including NTL) receive most of the channels via satellite. At the Headend, NTL will have lots of satellite dishes pulling the channel broadcasts off Sky.

However the excuse they gave you above is complete BS. All the ITV channels are available on satellite Free To Air, that means anyone with a satellite dish in Ireland can receive all the ITV channels for free, ITV no longer uses Sky carriage and you don't need a Sky sub to receive them.

NTL get their feeds for most of their prime channels from NTL in the UK, and not via Sat (although some minority channels are from Sat).

RTE have a fibre feed into NTL Dublin for their channels.

Mossy Monk

yes it is true about the link to the UK but in the UK arent they picked up by satellite. NTL themselves do a lot of the uplinking

10000maniacs

Why was this channel taken off the NTL Digital lineup. I reckon it was a pretty decent channel.

Mossy Monk

according to this post it was a decision by ITV. not surprising as they had it taken off the Sky EPG also

Guy:Incognito

I'm not impressed at all. I always miss the bill, now I have to have my sky box plugged in and a long scart lead accross the room( my room used to be set up the other way round and I'm too lazy to run a permenant cable accross) to my tv so I can get itv3.

tvbrat

Yea I will miss ITV3 as will my family, the various detective shows, like [SIZE=-1]Columbo, [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Due South, [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Jeremy Brett's, Sherlock Holmes, The Monk and many others. I know they were repeats, but still good viewing.
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bk

This decision to completely pull out of Ireland was probably made by ITV, because they are currently being sued by TV3 :mad:

Hopefully if ITV manage to buy TV3, this will be sorted and ITV will return.

BTW for those who really want ITV, you can receive all the ITV channels for free (no sub required) via FTA satellite, you just need to buy a FTA sat and receiver (or use an old Sky Digital sat and receiver).

Alun

bk wrote:

This decision to completely pull out of Ireland was probably made by ITV, because they are currently being sued by TV3 :mad:

What for, out of interest?