suicide

f

im not thinkin of this or anything just interested in your views.
do you think people who commit suicide should not be allowed to be buried in a graveyard.
i think this is unfair as depression (which is mainly the source of suicide) causes people to take them to take their lives, and does not offer the family any support to not allow the person to be buried in a grave yard. it is a mental disorder and disease which the person is born with

then what is the churches view on a person with scytsophrania whos other half forces them to kill theselves? will they be buried?

John Doe

This answer will be based on the assumption that you're talking about the Catholic Church.

I'm pretty sure from research I did a while back that schizophrenia isn't the mental disorder where the sufferer has "another half": that's MPD, multiple personality disorder. But anyway, now that depression is acknowledged as a mental illness I think there's no place for denial of burial rights. I don't see how it was ever very useful; perhaps for dissuading other people from suicide (but it doesn't seem much of a deterrent).

The churches view on people with MPD or schizophrenia committing suicide is the same as any other suicide: as depression is just as much of a mental disorder as the other two it would be very strange for the church to take a different position. I think "someone's other half forcing them to kill themselves" isn't a very apt description of these illnesses. No two things within the human psyche are absolutely divorced from each other, it's just that some people have violent shifts of mood which are so great as to be considered entire personality changes, though both personas will interact with each other and affect decisions made.

Calina

F,

I don't exactly know where you are coming from here and I'm not clear what position that you are taking. Most people are buried in graveyards run, or at least administered by the local council.

In my own case, when my brother committed suicide a dozen years ago he had a full Catholic funeral ceremony between the rosaries, removal, mass and graveside ceremonies. As far as I know, the old practice of refusing Catholic burials to suicide victims is long, long gone.

f

i should stop watchin tv. but i still here about it today in other countries

seamusgi4szw

I think the " OLD " strain of thinking was that as suicide was a mortal sin then you " MUST " have died in a state of sin and therefore could not be given the full burial rites of the church, by the way, other reformed churches also treated suicides in this way.

Nowadays, the christian churches are much more christian in their manner of dealing with these things, who are we to judge etc,.

Have you tried talking to a local priest lately, I find we, the church, are now treated as equal partners, given a voice, debated with, helped with our difficulties, no more blackthorn stick, mind you, sometimes old was better.
God Bless
Seamus