Can MMA be now construed as a single Art?

dlofnep

in the last 12 or 13 years, MMA has completely evovled to where we have the standard bjj, boxing, muay thai, wrestling as base arts for the majority of fighters. The reason I'm asking this is because of the best art thread. Is MMA now an art in it's own right? We train all areas and combine them together to create MMA - Your boxing stance is somewhat altered to avoid takedowns, your bjj is geared so that you avoid shots, your wrestling is performed with caution and knowledge of submissions so that you don't get choked out.. ect.. Wouldn't it be practical to just call MMA for what it now is, a complete art and not a few arts combined into one.

Dragan

In my view it is just a singular art , while it does incorportate many different things it changes and alters them to it's own needs. However, i think people will always make reference to "My wrestling is my main strenght" or "He can't beat me on the ground with my BJJ" because at the moment, it is still a sport filled with people who start training or reach a great level in some other art and then will start training in it, at least on a professional level.

No doubt, at the amateur or just plain old average joe level, people are going to clubs like SBG and Fianna and just starting at the start now, so i reckon, in time, the view of entering from a solid background in one art will change ( this will take a long, long time, and the experts who have dedicated themselves to an art for a long time will always have the advantage in that area in my view ) but the references to the other arts will always be there, unless the terminology changes.

i.e instead of "my ju jitsu" ti would be "my subs/grappling" etc.

That said i don't think this will happen, and people will always pay hommage to the roots of the different aspects of the sports, at least in my life time.

dlofnep

Good points.

I think the reason why you have main strengths is because of the diversity of MMA. There are so many angles to cover. This could also be applicable to other arts - We'll say muay thai for example, some guy might have a really solid clinch and knees but needs work on his kicks. But I agree with you, guys still will have main strengths and will still pay homage to wherever they started their career.

Although, given a few years you will also have guys who didn't start out with a high-school wrestling career or a boxing career, and began with an MMA gym and made it to that top level. I think guys like Evan Tanner is proof of this sort of career path in MMA.

FiannaGym.com

I think its definately a single style. THat's why I say I do "Stand-up, CLinch and ground" rather than MT, Wrestling and BJJ. Furthermore, MMA is the original fighting style which was altered and subjected to various rules. Luckily that has come full circle and we now have MMA again!

Peace

MaxBax

it needs a flashier name though. something oriental sounding. perhaps allinclusivekwon-do

or pride-jitsu.

or john-kavanagh-do

dlofnep

Good point.

FiannaGym.com

MaxBax wrote:

it needs a flashier name though. something oriental sounding. perhaps allinclusivekwon-do

or pride-jitsu.

or john-kavanagh-do

Ha ha you are dead right man.

Peace

RedRaven

dlofnep wrote:

in the last 12 or 13 years, MMA has completely evovled to where we have the standard bjj, boxing, muay thai, wrestling as base arts for the majority of fighters. The reason I'm asking this is because of the best art thread. Is MMA now an art in it's own right? We train all areas and combine them together to create MMA - Your boxing stance is somewhat altered to avoid takedowns, your bjj is geared so that you avoid shots, your wrestling is performed with caution and knowledge of submissions so that you don't get choked out.. ect.. Wouldn't it be practical to just call MMA for what it now is, a complete art and not a few arts combined into one.

Well lets see...Bruce Lee takes what he needs from all the styles he studied and formed Jeet kune Do...so M.M.A takes what it needs from other styles and just because it doesnt have a name and was not created by an asian/oriental person does that not make it a single art...???!!!!

dlofnep

RedRaven wrote:

Bruce Lee takes what he needs from all the styles he studied and formed Jeet kune Do...so M.M.A takes what it needs from other styles and just because it doesnt have a name and was not created by an asian/oriental person does that not make it a single art...???!!!!

Why are you questioning a question?

RedRaven

dlofnep wrote:

Why are you questioning a question?

Why, are questioning the questioning of a question??!!;)

dlofnep

RedRaven wrote:

Why, are questioning the questioning of a question??!!;)

Why are you questioning the questioning of the questioning of a question? :eek:

RedRaven

dlofnep wrote:

Why are you questioning the questioning of the questioning of a question? :eek:

This could take a while!!;) Lets just say that maybe M.M.A. is the art that studies all arts!!!

Dragan

Why not just called it what it is , Pankration.

Roper

That always reminds me of constipation, mixed with pancrease problems. No.

Dragan

Roper wrote:

That always reminds me of constipation, mixed with pancrease problems. No.

man, you really don't want to be rolling around with a guy who has that!!!