Rioter

Shrimp

Taken from the Aston Quay side of O'Connell Bridge.

C&C Welcome.


A rioter in protest of the "Love-Ulster" march that was scheduled to take place on 25/02/06.

SantaHoe

Nice DOF, at first glance I thought skanger-boy was photoshopped in
I take it the shot was taken from quite far away with a high zoom?

I think it's funny how he's the only one in the shot acting the bollox... everyone in the background looks so chilled out.
Really sums it up IMO... just a tiny minority of scummers causing trouble.

Any idea what he's throwing btw? ... looks like a bottle.

Shrimp

It was taken with zoom, and yeah it was a wine bottle in his hand. You're right about him looking like he's on his own. When I took the pic, It was like that.

thanks for the comment.

eas

Nice shot,. I do like the seperation of the rioter from the background, the BnW conversion looks very wel.

But as Santahoe touched on above, it looks a touch too artificial for my taste. I'd be carefull particularly with photo-jouro type shots to take it easy on post prossessing. I may be wrong but this one looks like you've gone a bit heavy with the blur tool on the background.

acquiescefc

Funny, I was stood around there, behind where you took that. As a spectator of course stuck on the bridge.

Was wishing I brought my camera out, until some scarf-ed up guy was going round saying 'smash his camera' to some other kid.

Brain donors

Good pic tho btw. impressive. Looks like hes on stage.

Shrimp

eas wrote:

Nice shot,. I do like the seperation of the rioter from the background, the BnW conversion looks very wel.

But as Santahoe touched on above, it looks a touch too artificial for my taste. I'd be carefull particularly with photo-jouro type shots to take it easy on post prossessing. I may be wrong but this one looks like you've gone a bit heavy with the blur tool on the background.

actually funny you say that, cos when i seen the photo after I took it i noticed the DOF. I added very very little blur, all I did was smooth of some edges. But only in select areas. Other than the little blurring, was B*W conversion + slight contrast boost.

Thanks for the comments!

Fajitas!

As soon as I saw it, I thought he was photoshopped in too... Nice shot alright, would you mind if I saw the original?

Ruu_Old

Looks just brilliant, looks like a movie snapshot Very impressive.

Shrimp

Fajitas! wrote:

As soon as I saw it, I thought he was photoshopped in too... Nice shot alright, would you mind if I saw the original?

it was a crop of a bigger pic btw.. i dont have the big one sorry.. not a huge crop tho..

Shrimp

Ruu wrote:

Looks just brilliant, looks like a movie snapshot Very impressive.

thank you very much!

Fajitas!

I'd have to say, I think it looks better in the original!

I like both, but the colour really brings out the movement, give it a sharper athmosphere even.

edunon

I like the shot, a bit more crop on the top wouldn't do any harm.
What lens did you use? And what focal and aperture did you use? I haven't seen such a dramatic change from sharp to blur (look at the ground) before apart from macros.

Shrimp

well due to foreshortening what looks like a short distance is actually much further than you think. I used the built in lens.. I'll have to recheck the Exif data for that stuff, hope my cam saved it. thanks for the feedback so far.

BTW, this photo was considered for a newspaper..

Shrimp

ok, just had a look there..

ARP: F2.8 but because I had some zoom on the DOF looks smaller..

cormie

You may be able to restore the original photo with some recovery software:)

I don't know a lot about photography but it's a nice shot:)

edunon

Well, Shrimp, looks to me that you did more blur than what you are saying.
The picture is great, a bit more gradual blur would be better, a gradient mask to a blured layer does it easly.
I think people is getting afraid to say they've done some photoshop, when actually can help a lot, as well as the dark room helps in analog.

Fajitas!

If you're going for a newspaper, go for the colour version...seriously!

They mightn't use a colour page, but it looks great!

Shrimp

I will try and see if I can recover the original, but I don't know, cos formatted my card about 2 days ago.

edunon, I amn't saying I didn't blur, I defiantly did, and perhaps it's just obvious where I did, I did it down at the bottom, from kinda his waist down, but i didn't blur it a lot, i just wanted to get it a bit more uniform to the background. I don't mind admitting to editing photos, sure nearly every photo you see has been edited in some way or another. My favorite photographers work is always heavily edited. http://www.sachawaldman.com/ some amazing material.

Thanks for the feedback tho, I appreciate it.

BTW thanks fajita as well. I have the black and white version printed off in A3, and it looks better black and white. It's a stronger image, his white stands out more. IMO.

captain P

I like the b&w better. A bit of a crop at the top would be nice but otherwise its a very cool shot!

Shrimp

Thank you!

Benster

Feel free to correct me, but I was under the impression that newspapers generally do not publish photos that have had any edits done beyond cropping.

Shrimp

I will correct you. They leave all photography and editing at the discretion of the photographer, as long as it does not manipulate what happened at the time. So I couldn't make a different object in his had for example, or something like that. Usually photos in newspapers never need much edit, this one took about 5-10 mins to edit. Which isn't long at all.

edunon

Thanks for the link, Shrimp, I really enjoyed Walman's photos.
You might know him but I'm sure you'll like Andrzej Dragan portraits. Well knowledge of photoshop too.

Shrimp

Yep some of the stuff very good there. Quite like Sacha. Perhaps darker.

Check out..

http://www.llreps.com/ I love Markus Wendler's work.. Really a style which I try to learn from and reach. His ability to get the right lighting and perfect composition for product shots is very distinctive.

lostexpectation

riotporn

Shrimp

good contribution.

Fajitas!

Shrimp wrote:

BTW thanks fajitas as well. I have the black and white version printed off in A3, and it looks better black and white. It's a stronger image, his white stands out more. IMO.

True, a printed image looks alot better than one on a laptop screen!

Shrimp

exactly.. you prolly thought the colour one looked better cos on a laptop screen black never comes up as true black.

febreze

eas wrote:

But as Santahoe touched on above, it looks a touch too artificial for my taste. I'd be carefull particularly with photo-jouro type shots to take it easy on post prossessing. I may be wrong but this one looks like you've gone a bit heavy with the blur tool on the background.

I have to agree here...

On close inspection of where the blur starts / stops, you can see that the transition is a bit too abrupt. You can clearly see the blurred and unblurred areas beside yer man's knee and all along the road where the sharp and blurred areas meet.



If you're going to artifically blur, try use a nice bit of feather on the selection you made in the mask.

Also, the colour in the pic is very flat... not really Black & white, just grey

Check your histogram...



A good reportage photo has to have impact, this is just soooo flat.

Keyzer

Shrimp,
pissing myself laughing at the credits on Dublin Riots 2....
Hilarious...