What's your play here?

Iago

.50/1 6 Seat Table

SB $145
BB $178
UTG $138
UTG+1 $78
CO $256
Button $94

UTG Folds
UTG+1 raises to $3
CO folds
Button Calls $3
SB calls $2.5
BB calls $2 with Qh Th

Flop comes down

8h 5h 2h

SB checks
BB bets $5
UTG+1 calls $5
Button calls $5
SB folds

Turn
As

BB bets $15
UTG+1 raises to $30
Button raises to $88 and is all-in

BB????

willis

call. I cant find a fold here, your ahead too many times imo

ianmc38

Call

Waylander

Think I would have to call and hope the river is not a heart. I think one of them will have suited connectors giving them a made flush, while the other probably has AA in the hole with the Ah in his hand.

jem

I am reading this right,
you have a flush draw , thats it, no straight draw, no pair actually sfa. you have to hit a heart and even then you could be up against nut or second nut flush. cant see how you can call.

Running Bing

no hes made the flush on the flop, he had qth. Definate call imo. cant spend your whole poker life seeing boogeymen in the closet. most likely he has an Ah or Kh in which case your ahead. Very unlikely he has a made flush higher than yours.

Atlas_IRL

definate call his outs are very low

jem

all in

super_furry

That's an easy call for me.

ianmc38

Atlas_IRL wrote:

definate call his outs are very low

How do we know this? Iago could be drawing dead against Ahxh

Rnger

jem wrote:

I am reading this right,
you have a flush draw , thats it, no straight draw, no pair actually sfa. you have to hit a heart and even then you could be up against nut or second nut flush. cant see how you can call.

I made the same mistake. Calling with Q high, dodgy. This is a call for me

TacT

personally I hate to call off my stack with a Q high flush, I'd call with a K high flush here and given the action I'd be inclined to fold -- all depending on my reads on the villain of course. If he's loose, call, if he's a rock or he's tight then it's an easy fold for me as he's representing the K/A high flush.

Bandana boy

I think you call
You did and you where dominated by K high flush and a set
Set taking down the hand with a paired river

but on the upside you will meet a tall dark stranger with some good news about an upcoming holiday

Bandana boy

Actually you should raise
that way if dude comes in which i think he does you win side pot

fuzzbox

Bandana boy wrote:

Actually you should raise
that way if dude comes in which i think he does you win side pot

Or not, as UTG+1 has less than button.

Iago

you know UTG+1 is going to call (after all most of his stack is already in the middle, and he has made a significant raise on the turn)

and even thinking you're ahead you would have to guess that a heart or the board pairing would leave you beaten, presuming your opponents aren't complete muppets and are playing with a reasonable holding, At worst two-pair with an A or K flush draw.

If you're ahead there's $200 to be won and it costs $73 to call. 16 cards out of 46 will beat you (Assuming that your opponent is holding a hand that is behind but will win with Any A, 8, 5, 2 heart landing) , there's no chance of your hand improving to beat any of the expected holdings if one of those 16 cards lands. You could already be behind of course, in which case you're already drawing dead.

How often will your hand hold up in this situation? is it often enough to make this an easy call or to call at all?

Norwich Fan Rob

all in, i had the EXACT same situation about 2 weeks ago with the J high flush, (but the A was out on the board), and got all in vs top 2 pair (?) and a smaller suited connector flush, (course muppet boy filled up, but thats not the point), big chance u are ahead, and well ahead, and unlikely they will fold your push here with a set or lower flush.

Ste05

The fact that the A of the suit was out in the hand makes Rob's one different IMO.

Alot more people limp or call raises with Axs than Kxs and seeing how Iago has the Q and 10 only really leaves KJs (and even that is a pretty loose call pre-flop) as a possible Kxs holding unless he's a complete muppet

In this particular hand however, I also think you have to push here. Neither opponent can clean you out, therefore your potential losses are limited to $94 but you can take down a nice pot if (and I think a decent % of the time) you are ahead. It's $73 to call with the potential pay-off of $266, that's about 3.6:1, and I like those odds.

Iago

Ste05 wrote:

It's $73 to call with the potential pay-off of $266, that's about 3.6:1, and I like those odds.

but that includes the additional $73 that I have to put in, it's closer to 2.7:1 without it

Ste05

Iago wrote:

but that includes the additional $73 that I have to put in, it's closer to 2.7:1 without it

Ah yes, I double counted your $73, either way, I like these odds and I'll take that bet. You have a strong hand and all that realistically beats you at the moment is Axs, in the button, or AKs/ AJs UTG+1.

Then it would depend on how they have played previous hands,

Although just looking back at the hand as it played out and the two flat calls on the flop actually scares me slightly then you make another lead out and get followed by a raise and a re-raise Allin, hmmmm, you have no outs if you're wrong, even though the odds are fairly nice, I think I could easily find a call or a fold here depending on the moment. Indeed a tricky one...

OK, I call!!!

RoundTower

Ste05 wrote:

Although just looking back at the hand as it played out and the two flat calls on the flop actually scares me slightly

The flop bet is very small. I call, there are too many ways you can be ahead.

Iago

RoundTower wrote:

The flop bet is very small.

Yes it was small, intentionally small, I was happy for one of them to take a pop with AQ;KQ and/or a flush draw here. Two flat calls while not overly worrying considering the board, became worrying after the turn action.

I believed that I was either slightly ahead, i.e. there was a high chance of being outdrawn by one of the two hands the other players could have, or I was behind and drawing dead. With the likliehood being higher that I was behind at least one of the two hands already.

With only $23 invested and $73 left to go into it, I felt that I could find a better spot to invest my money at a later stage so I folded.

UTG+1 called and turned over Ah 9h
Button turned over 8d 8s

the board didn't pair and the nut flush took it down. I was happy enough with my decision but afterwards I wondered whether that was just results orientated thinking. Having spent a day or two thinking about it I believe I made the right decision and would do so again.

TacT

Iago wrote:

Yes it was small, intentionally small, I was happy for one of them to take a pop with AQ;KQ and/or a flush draw here. Two flat calls while not overly worrying considering the board, became worrying after the turn action.

I believed that I was either slightly ahead, i.e. there was a high chance of being outdrawn by one of the two hands the other players could have, or I was behind and drawing dead. With the likliehood being higher that I was behind at least one of the two hands already.

With only $23 invested and $73 left to go into it, I felt that I could find a better spot to invest my money at a later stage so I folded.

UTG+1 called and turned over Ah 9h
Button turned over 8d 8s

the board didn't pair and the nut flush took it down. I was happy enough with my decision but afterwards I wondered whether that was just results orientated thinking. Having spent a day or two thinking about it I believe I made the right decision and would do so again.

nice laydown