Photograph comments

BrookieD

Hi all
Any comments on the below picture good or bad would be great.

Taken during th Bushido fighting Rings a year ago and revisited in the last week for touch ups

http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bushido1869py.jpg


Thanks

edunon

Nice photo, lighting and composition. I'd love to see more of this serie.

BrookieD

hi,
thanks for the comment, I am just waiting on for DS settigns to be set up and my new site will be online. i will PM the address and more of the same will be here for you to have a google at.

Thanks again
D

http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bushido0767rz.jpg

Managed to dig this out for you

edunon

I'm a big fan of boxing photographs, I think bushido gives even more flexibility taking photos.
Looking forward to see your site.

Shrimp

The composition in both are pretty bad.

BrookieD

Shrimp wrote:

The composition in both are pretty bad.

Why? just so i know what you mean and i know what i may need to look out for in future
Thanks

Zillah

Shrimp wrote:

The composition in both are pretty bad.

Frankly thats an incredibly obnoxious thing to say without any attempt at explanation.

Oriel

Shrimp wrote:

The composition in both are pretty bad.

He's right.

Zillah

It doesn't matter if he's right or not, such a negative comment is absolutley pointless* unless you bother explaining why.

(*Pointless unless you want to ruin someone's confidence in their work for no good reason)

BrookieD

OK lets stop the fighting, I do not mind if you think my photographs are bad good indiffernt or down right crap. just tell me why you think they are any of the above. thats all i am after folks,

Please if you have nothing decent to add other than "this is bad" or "that is bad" then dont bother.

Now if you can tell me why they are bad please do so.

thanks D

andy1249

Composition could be better , heres why , the first one , the black and white one , all the focus is on the top of the photograph , the whole image is top heavy and the rope in the foreground distracts also.
Would have been better to have the action a little lower in the shot ,( shooter should have gotten higher or moved the camera to better frame the shot , some basic rule of thirds here would have worked , also the timing of the shot is a bit unfortunate , it has a sort of comic look to it , the guy on the right looks like he has pointy teeth and the guy on the left looks like hes blessing himself.

The colour shot , only half of the subject is in shot , this would have been better taken at a side view , and either both fighters should have been entirely in the shot or just one , the placing is too central in this one , again a bit lower would have been better .

Hope this helps , and no offence , this is just constructive criticism ,
Keep shooting.

Shrimp

1. Poor uneven lighting, did you have a flash gun?

2. Distracting objects, the ropes shouldn't even be there, you should have got the camera well in, or if you did want the ropes there then you should have been further back.

3. This area is dull and dead.

4. That ref is very distracting. You're probably going to say that you cant control him, but you can be paitent and wait for the right moment.

5. Random smeers, and lights above and around the BG which just make for a very distracting photo.

My suggestion:



dont call me obnoxious..

Zillah

Shrimp wrote:

dont call me obnoxious..

Don't act obnoxious and we'll get along fine.

BrookieD

right now were getting places,
I like to composition of both shots. These were and are intended as "action" shots. The B&W shot i like as it has a movement about it. and i feel a toch of the 1930's for some strange reason.
The edit that was done while good i feel takes away from the action aspect.

The colour shot i always view this as from the POV of the guy who is about to take a kicking, "I" am the one on the canvas?

thanks for the comments though there all welcome

Shrimp

Zillah wrote:

Don't act obnoxious and we'll get along fine.

Frankly I dont care if we get on.

Zillah

Well thats just not neighbourly. And wierd considering you just asked not to be called obnoxious...

edunon

Seems like there is another bushido fight in the thread apart from the photo's...
This type of photography is not easy, action is really fast, and having all the elements on the photo at the perfect place is sometimes a matter of luck or one in a hundred shots, specially if your movement around the ring is limited. The referee plays a good part here and is pretty well framed by the two fighters. You can't avoid the lights on top, and they actually give a good atmosphere to the photo, in my opinion.
A lower aperture value would increase the deep of field, in here both the fighters and referee are perfectly focus and makes the photo look a bit "artificial". The face of the white fighter has no detail, if you took it in Raw you should be able to recover a bit of detail.
This would be my version of it, hope you don't mind we are playing with your photo.

rymus

Shrimp wrote:

The composition in both are pretty bad.

From John Hyde thread

Shrimp wrote:

Why dont you all have a little winge about Sacha Waldman too seeing as thats the general thing to do here.

What is critique without explanation if it's not whinging? Glad you bothered to follow it up later on with something constructive...

JackKelly

You know, this forum is completely ruined by a very small (~3) number of people. I would never imagine posting photo's here or, tbh, bother asking questions or even commenting on much, which is a shame, as i love photography.

Some people need to seriously get over themselves. One line "comments" don't help anyone, especially when they're negative and i find it suprising, that this group -high up on their pedestal- don't really produce much themselves....and if they do, it's certainly not great.

To anyone who would like some helpful, constructive criticism, i suggest trying this site. People actually like to help here, and they know what they are talking about.

Shrimp

guys you're all far too sensitive... cant take shít..

you all make it out to be like the OP will cry if someone says there pic is crap.

rymus

The simple point is, you should explain WHY you are passing a negative comment. I seriously doubt anyone is going to burst into tears if someone passes an idiotic remark, you needn't worry about hurting feelings.

Either give constructive criticism or just don't bother posting.

Shrimp

cool