SG1 : 9x18 : Arthur's Mantle [Spoilers]

is_that_so

Yet another shoehorned episode but a lot better than the previous one. Pity they couldn't just deal with one story.
Just OK.

Mr E

I liked it... its certainly setting things up for the finale (and bringing the season full circle, after ignoring what happened in the first 2 episodes for the entire season!)

User45701

i dont know is it just me or is telc not the same nemore they seem to be trying to make a joke out of him or making him more cheezy i dont know but im not a big fan of it and they have been making that scientist out to be a retard for a long time now fire him and be done with it

good episode but yet again sg1 didnt beat BSG this week

skywalker_208

i though this one was fairly average.. filler episode... hope the season finale is good.. usually is..

madrab

damn stupid sg1 writers with their inability to grasp continuity, could this device heve been mentioned at least once during the season as opposed to it appearing & carter saying that she has been working on it for ages, & how bloody convenient that they find an ori killer weapon with only 2 episodes to go, just like the miraculas weapon they found at the end of last series & the series before that, its just lazy writing

& dont get me started on the supposed out of phase bull crap where we can pass through objects & yet we can walk on the ground & up stairs & through a stargate arghhh it annoys me

& why wasnt teal'c suprised when he saw mitchel & why the hell is he carrying 2 P90's? as opposed to a big mg42 or something

rant over untill next week

is_that_so

madrab wrote:

rant over untill next week

And based on what we've seen of this season there will be a rant

User45701

skywalker_208 wrote:

i though this one was fairly average.. filler episode... hope the season finale is good.. usually is..

how was this a filler?!!!!!!!!

ixoy

'Twas ok. I was irritated, like madrab, that we saw no mention of Carter working on this device before, yet she was suddenly up all night working on it this episode, as if it had been haunting her for months. That is indeed lazy, as is developing a weapon two weeks beforehand. At least last year's weapon was done in a damn fine 2-parter, so we can forgive it (least I can).

I also never liked them not falling through floors, etc. I didn't like it when Star Trek: TNG did it, I didn't like it in "Crystal Skull", and I don't like it here. I don't know why nobody questions it ever (ok, they did in "Wormhole X-Treme!" but we can hardly take that seriously). Grouch.

I'm guessing Teal'c wasn't surprised because he's used to odd goings on with SG1? *Shrug*

Wasn't that impressed but the finales are usually decent enough so there's hope for next week. But this versus BSG's episode? Whoa, was there a showing up this week.

Berns

So think we'll ever see this weapon that was supposed to be in plans in the thingy that they got trapped outta phase in. Or was it too badly damaged?? Would like to see it, "Designed Centuries ago, today the dream comes true"

Dunners

Distinctly 'meh' as the entire series has been so far. They seemed to be trying way too hard this episode to make Mitchell into O'Neill, the wise cracks, the I care for him like he's my brother. Develop him into his own damned character not a J O'N clone.

Agree with the whole bumbling scientist comment, the guy is such a liability they should have removed him for safety reasons. Hell if I was in charge I would have had him tried for treason there's no way he can screw up that many times without it being deliberate. Wasn't even remotely funny this week.

As for the whole BSG vs SG1 debate. When BSG is out I sit and I watch and I do nothing else, it took me two days to even get round to putting SG1 on and even then I watched it while I was concentrating on something else. It completely fails to hold my interest these days and I seriously think I'm just watching it out of misplaced loyalty nowadays

MarkR

Was waiting for ages for Teal'c to use that cloak, saw that coming all right. He's getting a bit cheesy all right with his recently acquired dual weapons.

Lord Oz

Pretty bad episode. The episodes just keep getting more unoriginal and predictable.

User45701

Dunners wrote:

As for the whole BSG vs SG1 debate. When BSG is out I sit and I watch and I do nothing else, it took me two days to even get round to putting SG1 on and even then I watched it while I was concentrating on something else. It completely fails to hold my interest these days and I seriously think I'm just watching it out of misplaced loyalty nowadays

it is sad but i agree and so do most ppl i ask its a pitty lets hope they mjust kill off the orai and start a new stroy line next season

keeping on this debate do u all think sga is better than sg1 nowadays? im not too sure im waiting for end of sg1 to decide

Peace

User45701 wrote:

it is sad but i agree and so do most ppl i ask its a pitty lets hope they mjust kill off the orai and start a new stroy line next season

keeping on this debate do u all think sga is better than sg1 nowadays? im not too sure im waiting for end of sg1 to decide

What? Next season... if they wrap up the Ori this season I'm hoping for SG1 to get the axe. Man they are flogging a dead horse and its not going to get up and dance. I tend to watch SG1 out of a morbid fascination now to see exactly how wrong a good idea can go.

I've been a fan of SG1 and thought it was vgood 1-7, 8 ok, 9 i echo the feelings of most on this forumn.

As for comparing the show to BSG i think you would have to compare it to BSC in its 9th season. BSG is full of fresh stories and they'll never include crap such as out of phase, pass through solid walls but stairs are solid as a rock, I can see you but you can't see me. If they were out of phase how could they see everyone ... surely it works both ways? BSG in its 9th seasons may suffer from the same fate as SG1... jaded writers.

Dunners

Peace wrote:

BSG in its 9th seasons may suffer from the same fate as SG1... jaded writers.

I can see what you're saying but when you look at SGA, set in the same universe and yet so much better than SG1 is now. I don't think so much that it's jaded writers as it's writers who were far too hasty to kill off the Goa'uld and the replicators only to now turn round and go "oh crap we've no enemies left erm, erm, ah, I know some semi-real Gods???"

I think it's probably more to do with uncertainty that there was even going to be a Season 9. Then they do such a good job wrapping up several years worth of ongoing story lines that a new season is commissioned and they're let with nothing.

Still they could have come up with a somewhat better arc than the Ori are right now. The Tok'ra going bad because of reviving the Queen maybe, the super-intelligent Aschen finally figuring out how to use the gate system, the Jaffa being swayed by Gerek and going on a rampage of 'liberation' to 'free' oppressed peoples across the galaxy - talk about morally ambiguous storyline when they arrive in a fleet to free the opressed peoples in various countries on Earth, how do you deal with that one?

The SG1 universe is full of cracking stuff they could have re-visited or developed but I think the writers paniced and deicded to go for the insta-fix almighty beings to fill the power vaccuum, unfortunately we're all suffering for it

Boro

I like the Ori as villains, they have a lot of potential. I dont like the Arnie-fication of Teal'c though - the two p90's pisses me off no end, especially when he doesnt even bother looking at what he shoots.

That episode was ok, but the inconsistencies bugged me as well (out of phase stuff). One explanation they could use i suppose is that permanent stuff permeates through the dimensions (eg floor, stairs, stargate, etc) but temporary stuff (people, cups, etc) doesnt. Although they should get to see/bump into stuff that exists only in their 'dimension'.

Kojak

This episode, IMO, was very similar to an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation where Geordi and Roe are out of phase.

For the Ori to be succesful villians I think we need to see more of them, not just talk about them and listening to the priors.

This ep was at best 6 out of 10.

senordingdong

I didn't find it as bad as everyone else here.
But I am in awe of the selective whining. Has everybody forgotten that all of these insignifigant inconcistancies they are complaining about have happened before? Or are they all just sheep?

Re-visiting the out of phase story was lame at first, but the new approach that was taken and the explanation of the device were all good writing if you ask me. The Sodan story was a good way to re-visit an old story and was also handled well.

I'm not denying that SG-1 has sank but the writers really are making the best of a bad situation. Infact, I think they are doing a damn good job of a bad situation.

User45701

they have a season 10 siged for it will happen im just hopeing that it its better this was still a good season some great episodes i liked beachhead

Baggly

madrab wrote:

& dont get me started on the supposed out of phase bull crap where we can pass through objects & yet we can walk on the ground & up stairs & through a stargate arghhh it annoys me

why would anyone invent something that would make you fall through the floor unintentionally