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Drexl Spivey

Hello,

Does Hapkido exist in the Dublin area?

Cheers

yomchi

Jeff Bond wrote:

Hello,

Does Hapkido exist in the Dublin area?

Cheers

Combat Hapkido is in swords. For more info on that check out www.combathapkidoireland.com

I think the nearest traditonal Hapkido is Massan Gorbhani in Bray, could be wrong though.

Jon

columok

Yeah I think that bray place is called the Master's Temple???

yomchi

columok wrote:

Yeah I think that bray place is called the Master's Temple???

Thats the one!

Roper

Beware anything with the word "Combat" in front of it!!! Sounds like someones trying hard to justify something!

yomchi

Roper wrote:

Beware anything with the word "Combat" in front of it!!! Sounds like someones trying hard to justify something!

True in many cases, however its called combat Hapkido because they took the forms and other traditional stuff out of it and work only on the combat/self defence aspect.

Take a peek at the web site it explains it better than I!

Jon

Baggio...

Hey,

As the man said beware of anything with the word "combat" in front of it. If you are really serious about RBSD, try a few schools before you commit to something. Check out the thread on Combatives as well.


Good luck,

Baggio.

yomchi

Baggio... wrote:

Hey,

As the man said beware of anything with the word "combat" in front of it. If you are really serious about RBSD, try a few schools before you commit to something. Check out the thread on Combatives as well.


Good luck,

Baggio.

Absolutely! Best having an over view of whats on offer

Jon

MaxBax

i might drop down for laugh at this place. they have a full ground grappling syllabus!!!

yomchi

Anyone at the MMA fight night in Galway will see grappling used in CHKD, one of the lads there was fighting. Not sure how he got on yet

Matthewthebig

My cousin did Hapkido in Masters' Temple

he thought it was very good

Tim_Murphy

Jon wrote:

Anyone at the MMA fight night in Galway will see grappling used in CHKD, one of the lads there was fighting. Not sure how he got on yet

Jon,
He only had one fight, don't know what happened his opponent for the second match.
He won the fight by guillotine from half guard. Fought guys came out swinging, his opponent made classic mistake of bad head position as he tried to clinch and Keith (hope he was called that anyway as he had tattoo'd on his back!;) ) threw on a guillotine fast. Fast fight so can't give you much more feedback.

Next league event is on in april in Limerick, how bout getting a few more of the CHKD people to compete?

Roper

I'm not usually the sort to post this kind of stuff but it's sort of a rife rumour so maybe somebody can debunk it and clear it up?

It's been said that combat hapkido in Ireland is a bit bogey, grading wise. I know nothing of it myself I have to say. Apparently people pay $$$ and get grades?

Like I said, this is rumour type stuff, so I'm posting it to clear it up for my sake really.

dlofnep

Yes, people pay to get grades. Shane is 2/d black belt in hapkido, and afaik, it gets more costly to grade for every black belt. A suprising amount actually.

Tim_Murphy

Apparently people pay $$$ and get grades?

Because that never happens in any other MA?:rolleyes:

Roper

Sorry, should clarify. I mean internet certificate type things, with little or no training.

Baggio...

$$$ = STAY THE HELL AWAY!!
From any M.A. that tries to rip you off for grades.

Later, Baggio.

yomchi

Tim_Murphy wrote:

Jon,
He only had one fight, don't know what happened his opponent for the second match.
He won the fight by guillotine from half guard. Fought guys came out swinging, his opponent made classic mistake of bad head position as he tried to clinch and Keith (hope he was called that anyway as he had tattoo'd on his back!;) ) threw on a guillotine fast. Fast fight so can't give you much more feedback.

Next league event is on in april in Limerick, how bout getting a few more of the CHKD people to compete?

Thanks Tim, yeh I heard he did well. Fairly play to him

yomchi

Roper wrote:

I'm not usually the sort to post this kind of stuff but it's sort of a rife rumour so maybe somebody can debunk it and clear it up?

It's been said that combat hapkido in Ireland is a bit bogey, grading wise. I know nothing of it myself I have to say. Apparently people pay $$$ and get grades?

Like I said, this is rumour type stuff, so I'm posting it to clear it up for my sake really.

Well IMO, the guy that runs CHKD. GM Pelligrini is American and likes to market his MA big time, for example at a seminar I was at recently he was charging people a tenner to get his autograph - nobody asked. I thought this was disgraceful, disgraceful of him to think anyone would want his autograph in the first place LOL.
Eugene McQuillan runs CHKD in Ireland, I find him a fairly straight guy, I've never heard of anyone getting certs over the Internet, however I think Pelligrini might just might do these long distance training schemes where you grade from learning your stuff off a DVD, but hey Hee Il Cho does that too (not that that makes it right)

Jon

Valmont

I did hapkido for two and a half years. Got a blue belt. I would have got it without training either. As long as you pay for the grading, you are guaranteed to pass.

There are only a handful of really good practical techniques. The first few techniques you learn at yellowbelt or so are simple and effective.

All of the kicks, and most of the more extravagant colour belt moves are glamourised and uneccessary.

Roper

Jon wrote:

Well IMO, the guy that runs CHKD. GM Pelligrini is American and likes to market his MA big time, for example at a seminar I was at recently he was charging people a tenner to get his autograph - nobody asked. I thought this was disgraceful, disgraceful of him to think anyone would want his autograph in the first place LOL.
Eugene McQuillan runs CHKD in Ireland, I find him a fairly straight guy, I've never heard of anyone getting certs over the Internet, however I think Pelligrini might just might do these long distance training schemes where you grade from learning your stuff off a DVD, but hey Hee Il Cho does that too (not that that makes it right)

Jon

Yeah Jon maybe that's the source of the rumour alright. I suppose like anything else the key is if you feel that your getting value, keep paying, if you feel you're not, don't.

I know Eugene from a while back. I've never had much dealings with him to be honest but people I know have and have always said he's a straight enough bloke.

Yes I know of internet training programmes and I guess they're a whole other topic, but these guys are businessmen at the end of the day and from their point of view, there's a market and if they don't do it someone else will.

Thanks for clearing that up.

yomchi

Roper wrote:

Yeah Jon maybe that's the source of the rumour alright. I suppose like anything else the key is if you feel that your getting value, keep paying, if you feel you're not, don't.

I know Eugene from a while back. I've never had much dealings with him to be honest but people I know have and have always said he's a straight enough bloke.

Yes I know of internet training programmes and I guess they're a whole other topic, but these guys are businessmen at the end of the day and from their point of view, there's a market and if they don't do it someone else will.

Thanks for clearing that up.

No problem! I agree with you

Tim_Murphy

he was charging people a tenner to get his autograph - nobody asked. I thought this was disgraceful, disgraceful of him to think anyone would want his autograph in the first place LOL

LOL, that's quality!:D

topdog8

Tim_Murphy wrote:

Jon,
He only had one fight, don't know what happened his opponent for the second match.
He won the fight by guillotine from half guard. Fought guys came out swinging, his opponent made classic mistake of bad head position as he tried to clinch and Keith (hope he was called that anyway as he had tattoo'd on his back!;) ) threw on a guillotine fast. Fast fight so can't give you much more feedback.

Next league event is on in april in Limerick, how bout getting a few more of the CHKD people to compete?

Hows it going i was just looking through the sites and happen to come across this.

your correct in saying my name is keith and yes thats wat the tattoo said atleast it serves its purpose.

your right in saying that the fight was over fairly quick and yes i was disapointed but a win is a win..
The guy i was fighting dan was from an SBG gym buy had background in muay thai.
he admitted himself that he had not much experience in shooting and this is what he done for my quad of all places (lucky there was no head shots cos it would have been the perfect oppertunity for a knee strike and it would of been over alot quicker) anyway he did leave his head in place for me and i wrapped around it and dropped back to the ground to try maintain gaurd position to hook in as son as i did it was impossible to remove and he had no other choice... ilook forward to seeing him in limerick and im sure he has worked at his ground game.
as for the other guy well he pulled out due to injury for what reason i dont know but i look forward to having the oppertunity to fight him at the next round or along the way.

to clear up some questions bout combat hapkido and ill be happy to answer any of them.
i have trained alot of diff art from shotkan tae kwon do, judo but by far hapkido i find is the most effective.

I work as a project social worker and part time bouncer.
hapkido has held me immensly in term of restraing people and escorting people from a premises. its based around effective joint locks and thrust me they work. i have never once striked anyone while working the doors as there is simply no need.

Hapkido does have an extensive grappling programme but were not into the fancy stuff we have a job to do so we go in get it done and dont mess.

as for for round 2 in limerick there is two more of our guys going to fight, and i can say for a fact these lads are going to be tough oppisiton. ill post there weight catagorey nearer the fight.

For anyone intrested in coming out to see us practice or want to train in combat hapkido they may contact Eugene Mc Quinlan and check out our site u will be impressed combathapkidoirelan.com..

please post whatever quetions u need answering and ill do my best to get to them.

RedRaven

topdog8 wrote:

Hows it going i was just looking through the sites and happen to come across this.

your correct in saying my name is keith and yes thats wat the tattoo said atleast it serves its purpose.

your right in saying that the fight was over fairly quick and yes i was disapointed but a win is a win..
The guy i was fighting dan was from an SBG gym buy had background in muay thai.
he admitted himself that he had not much experience in shooting and this is what he done for my quad of all places (lucky there was no head shots cos it would have been the perfect oppertunity for a knee strike and it would of been over alot quicker) anyway he did leave his head in place for me and i wrapped around it and dropped back to the ground to try maintain gaurd position to hook in as son as i did it was impossible to remove and he had no other choice... ilook forward to seeing him in limerick and im sure he has worked at his ground game.
as for the other guy well he pulled out due to injury for what reason i dont know but i look forward to having the oppertunity to fight him at the next round or along the way.

to clear up some questions bout combat hapkido and ill be happy to answer any of them.
i have trained alot of diff art from shotkan tae kwon do, judo but by far hapkido i find is the most effective.

I work as a project social worker and part time bouncer.
hapkido has held me immensly in term of restraing people and escorting people from a premises. its based around effective joint locks and thrust me they work. i have never once striked anyone while working the doors as there is simply no need.

Hapkido does have an extensive grappling programme but were not into the fancy stuff we have a job to do so we go in get it done and dont mess.

as for for round 2 in limerick there is two more of our guys going to fight, and i can say for a fact these lads are going to be tough oppisiton. ill post there weight catagorey nearer the fight.

For anyone intrested in coming out to see us practice or want to train in combat hapkido they may contact Eugene Mc Quinlan and check out our site u will be impressed combathapkidoirelan.com..

please post whatever quetions u need answering and ill do my best to get to them.

Did you exchange much stand up in your fight with Dan from S.B.G.?

RedRaven

Tim_Murphy wrote:

Because that never happens in any other MA?:rolleyes:

Well its never happens in Muay Thai!!! No gradings or belts in Thai Tom!!;)

Tim_Murphy

Hi Keith,

your right in saying that the fight was over fairly quick and yes i was disapointed but a win is a win..

You got the sub and you got it fast, I wouldn't be too disappointed!

as for for round 2 in limerick there is two more of our guys going to fight, and i can say for a fact these lads are going to be tough oppisiton.

Excellent stuff, I'll look forward to seeing ye in action.

Quillo

Master Massan Ghorbani teaches at Master's Temple in Bray. He trains directly with and represents the founder of Sin Moo Hapkido, Ji Han Jae.

This is a genuine master of of his art and its well worth visiting his classes and/or seminars.

On the grading fee front - SM-HKD is expensive. Becoming increasing so as you move up through the dan grades. This approach is mirrored in some other arts..... however, I have also seen the approach where the further you progress in a system, the less it costs as it is assumed you are putting back into the system with your time and effort training others.

I believe the latter system to be fairer....however, if you want to follow a particular path, you have to accept the costs that that approach has associated with it.

Tim_Murphy

Well its never happens in Muay Thai!!! No gradings or belts in Thai Tom!!

I know that but I don't think most MAs are up to the standard of thai.

RedRaven

Tim_Murphy wrote:

I know that but I don't think most MAs are up to the standard of thai.

Pro. F

RedRaven wrote:

Well its never happens in Muay Thai!!! No gradings or belts in Thai Tom!!;)

afaik the irish governing body of MT, i think its called the irish muay thai council, has a grading system; i think its designed around coach certification, (but i'm not 100% sure if thats the basis).
i've also heard of different national and internatinal MT organisations with grading systems, again i think the main aim is ensuring a good standard of coaching (but again i'm not exactly sure of the basis).
if i remember correctly in Kru Tony Moore's book i think i saw mention of grades with different coloured prajits (armbands) to signify grade.
so even muay thai has grades! if ya want a belt, though, you have to take it off some mean mo fo in the ring;)

topdog8

RedRaven wrote:

Did you exchange much stand up in your fight with Dan from S.B.G.?

Hey no not really the fight was over pretty quickly but he did catch me with a nice round house kick which left a nasty bruise on my knee.. (fair play)

I wasnt dissapointed with the win i done what i set out to do but its a shame it was over so quickly.

RedRaven

Pro. F wrote:

afaik the irish governing body of MT, i think its called the irish muay thai council, has a grading system; i think its designed around coach certification, (but i'm not 100% sure if thats the basis).
i've also heard of different national and internatinal MT organisations with grading systems, again i think the main aim is ensuring a good standard of coaching (but again i'm not exactly sure of the basis).
if i remember correctly in Kru Tony Moore's book i think i saw mention of grades with different coloured prajits (armbands) to signify grade.
so even muay thai has grades! if ya want a belt, though, you have to take it off some mean mo fo in the ring;)

That whole system is a european thing, my Arjan never believed in it and neither do I!!!;)

Pro. F

ye, true enough, grading is only ouside thailand, but i thought that it should be mentioned that there is some grading in some MT organisations.

on a diff note whose your ajarn?