Fitz PL Omaha cash game hand

Lafortezza

I don't think I could have played this any worse and gave myself some ugly decisions. I took the 'safe' option on the river.

UTG is Chinese and loose but pretty good.
He has about 100euro.

I'm UTG+1.
I have about 500euro after winning a large multiway pot with QJT2 on a J2257 board. My image is squeeky tight nutpeddler, I've been playing pretty tight, the only hands I've been in are when I've hit the flop hard and gone to showdown. I've either been raising or folding. Even the dealer is predicting my hands will be the nuts at showdown before I turn them over.

MP1 is a good player, had been playing the 2E/5E Omaha game but it's full of good players so he's come over to slum it with us 1E/1E players. He's TAG and clever. Uses position well. He has about 500 euro.


UTG raises to 3, I call with Kc Kd Th 6h,
MP1 calls, SB folds, BB folds. Pot is 11euro.

Flop Ks Jc 6c

UTG bets pot, I call, MP1 calls, both blinds fold. I should have raised but I didn't for some reason. I was tired and probably assumed that given my image a raise will lose all my customers. UTG would have no problem putting a large amount of money in the middle with 2 pair + gutshot or similar.

I also have a habit (in Fitz cash games) of preferring to see a safe turn before commiting alot of chips.

The turn is the 2c, pot is 44euro
Board: Ks Jc 6c 2c

UTG checks, I check, MP1 checks. My reads are that neither of them has a flush, if they do it's not a high flush.

River is the 4s
Board: Ks Jc 6c 2c 4s

UTG checks and looks disinterested. I bet 30euro, another mistake as I can't see (m)any hands flat calling that I will beat. Given my image I might get a tiny flush or rivered straight to fold.

MP1 thinks, glances at me, then raises the pot.

I think for ages and eventually fold. I get shown the Ac (no other cards shown). I kick myself for getting bluffed.

Hectorjelly

I dont think its certain you were bluffed

cardshark202

Yeah you should be re-potting the flop, check or calling the turn and check-folding the river in most cases. If UTG is the player I think he is, he will often check the nut flush on the turn only to check-raise.

fuzzbox

As played
Check/call the river is fine.
Betting is a sin.

You need to raise the flop, Not because you want them all to fold, but because you want to be able to be a reasonable amount on a safe turn. On such a highly charged flop, its hard to see everybody folding.

RoundTower

lafortezza wrote:

I was tired and probably assumed that given my image a raise will lose all my customers. UTG would have no problem putting a large amount of money in the middle with 2 pair + gutshot or similar.

I also have a habit (in Fitz cash games) of preferring to see a safe turn before commiting alot of chips.

I agree you played the hand badly. Waiting to see a safe turn before committing chips will just lose you money. Maybe you can get away with it in the round of each but the 50 omaha is generally too aggressive.

Benglian

This is a very interesting hand.
I will put you out of your misery as it was in fact me who was MP1.
I liked this hand a lot.
You were playing a decent stack and so ripe for the bluff, and as you say your nut peddler image kept SHOUTING at me that you were exactly the sort of person who would lay down to the lone A play.
However I also know that you are a sofisticated player and are aware of this play.
That was the key.
I bet 165 on the end, overbetting not wanting a call, and gave the impression that I didn't DARE BREATHE when you were staring me down. I thought it was an oscar performance.
Though sadly it was an oscar performance that didn't pay off this time.:mad:
I really REALLY thought you might call here, with a smaller flush, I mean c'mon, you know the play...
But you folded correctly.
I do not draw to bad flushes, and you HAD the Kc....!
SOMEONE was drawing to the flush, three handed!!
I had the nuts this time...I checked on the turn setting you up for the river.
I can get away if it pairs...I 'might' get paid if it doesn't.
So good fold.
I showed to keep you guessing....lol

But you are right, crap €30 bet on the end...
It meant that I would have pulled this play if I DID have the lone A. It put enough into the pot for a raise to scare you.
I mean c'mon.
Who else at the table would it have worked against?
You are EXACTLY the sort of player to pull this move on.
I think I would have slightly underbet though, maybe for a €100....
Not saying you are too tight at all, but you DO know how to fold second best....many others don't.:D

Lafortezza

The thing that was really doing my head in was whether or not the fact that you showed the lone Ace of clubs meant that I was being bluffed or not.

Thanks for putting me out of my misery as to your hand. I 95% believe you

Benglian wrote:

This is a very interesting hand.
I will put you out of your misery as it was in fact me who was MP1.
I liked this hand a lot.
You were playing a decent stack and so ripe for the bluff, and as you say your nut peddler image kept SHOUTING at me that you were exactly the sort of person who would lay down to the lone A play.
However I also know that you are a sofisticated player and are aware of this play.
That was the key.
I bet 165 on the end, overbetting not wanting a call, and gave the impression that I didn't DARE BREATHE when you were staring me down. I thought it was an oscar performance.
Though sadly it was an oscar performance that didn't pay off this time.:mad:
I really REALLY thought you might call here, with a smaller flush, I mean c'mon, you know the play...
But you folded correctly.
I do not draw to bad flushes, and you HAD the Kc....!
SOMEONE was drawing to the flush, three handed!!
I had the nuts this time...I checked on the turn setting you up for the river.
I can get away if it pairs...I 'might' get paid if it doesn't.
So good fold.
I showed to keep you guessing....lol

But you are right, crap €30 bet on the end...
It meant that I would have pulled this play if I DID have the lone A. It put enough into the pot for a raise to scare you.
I mean c'mon.
Who else at the table would it have worked against?
You are EXACTLY the sort of player to pull this move on.
I think I would have slightly underbet though, maybe for a €100....
Not saying you are too tight at all, but you DO know how to fold second best....many others don't.:D

RoundTower

I believe him, with the lone ace he would have to bet the turn.