new cue on the market

miju

been invited to a demo of a new type of cue being sold next thurs, it's here at www.acuerate.com but it's VERY pricey as cues go (anything over the €200 in my book is pricey)

it's apparently supposed to increase your potting accuract no end

anyways, not many i've been talking to at tourneys have heard of them and none that have haerd of it have seen it in action so im curious if anyone here knows anything about it?

just trying to figure out if i'll be wasting my time or not, either way i'll be down in my club playing so i'll report back if its a gimmick or not if anyones interested

gerire

Fancy letting us know where its being demo'd? Sounds gimmicky and just another cue manufacturer cue launch.

Prolly just imported handmades from the far east TBH.

Alos the fact that the only Top 16 pro that has used it Ebdon only tried it, cant see him or the other top pro's giving up their custom made John Parris' sticks.

If it was a real high difference others would at least try it if not use it.

[/scepticism]

miju

i agree with ye on the scepticism alright thats whyim curious if anyone else has used it, dunno where else it's been demo'd but there'll be one tomorrow in the racecourse snooker club in baldoyle at 9pm

looking through the website it apparently reduces "deflection" or unwanted side making shots more accurate, so the theory behind it sounds plausible but with that said a cue is a cue afterall jimmy white is renowed for banging in a century break using literally nothing more than the flat end of a walking stick

gerire

Hey mate, could you do me a favour and ask them tomorrow are they doing any other demo's around the city, and are they planning on retailing them in any stores or is it "exclusive" and only at their demos?

After a decent look through the site the 'throw' is caused by the player not striking through the ball properly. I can guarantee you it will feel nice when you try it, the ebony will feel beautiful. But if you want a really nice cue just call Abban Reddy in Wexford and you are supporting the Irish aswell

miju

yeah i'll ask him no bother, whereabouts in the city you based anyways?

i'm not really in the market for a new cue i just picked one up recently for €180 it's a nice 18oz weight in it with butt extention and full extension, just getting used to it now

altough i must admit that this has peaked my interest somewhat, gonna get my cue "tested" for deflection tomorrow anyways :-)

Oriel

Nothing increases your potting accuracy but practice. Especially not some gimmicky cue.

miju

i'd be with ye on that one sinecura, but sure seeing as ill be down there practising tomorrow i'll defo check it out and see for myself

i reckon i'll lineup 10 shots from the baulk line to the bottom corners (my pot average for these types is about 50%) and then 2 dead straight to the center with top and screwback and i suppose i'll know pretty quickly

either way i'll be sure to post up here about it

Tiger Jim

This is a gimmick!

As already mentioned, I have an Abban Reddy cue and it is beautiful, but it is the player that makes a good player, not a cue!

miju

ah so you've tried this cue then? wot did u think of it?

miju

OK so, I tried this badboy out last night and instead of playing about 10 shots with it I ended up playing with for about 20 minutes becuase I couldn't put the cue down, i kept comparing the acuerate one to my own one and I have to say that I 90% convinced that this is the genuine article

for starters i've never done a deep screwback shot thats gone the full length of the table (best i usually get is about half way) but lo and behold I tried to screw it back the full length of the table 6 times in a row and EVERYTIME I did it, tried the same with my usual cue afterwards and bupkiss and i mis cued it something awful, so yer man gives me the acuerate one again and tells me to try and miscue the ball again i tried 4 times cracking practically bottom of the white with ridiculous power and the ball didnt even jump let alone result in a miscue

the theory behind it makes ALOT of sense when you see it in action and it's all about subconsiouc re-programming of your shots, another example i love cracking in long shots the length of the table and find them no bother at all, tried it with the acuerate missed it by a mile (i'll always at least rattles pockets usually) then tried with mine and it went straight in, hmmmmmm i thought not all it stands up to be?????

but yer man then went onto explain that subconsiously becuase i', used to my cue generating unwanted side i compensate for that when aiming so he gives me the acuerate again and tells me to aim at the corner of the pocket which would miss the pocket by a mile, i was ****ing stumped when the red sank down the pocket

so this cue subsconsiously trains you to shoot straighter as it practically elimnates unwanted side,

the reason i'm only 90% sure of this cue though is because i always thought a cue was a cue and I'm still a decent bit in disbelief that this cue actually changed my game so much in just 20mins and was very strange how comfortable i felt with it and how quick i got used to it, anyways, needless to say €380 came out of my pocket and I've got one now

i also asked yer man about him doing other demos and if you email them at info@acuerate.com they'll tell you because they're not sure of dates but are looking to come over every couple of weeks or so, i also asked him why pros haven't been playing with it, answer? ebdon plays with it, doherty is starting to play with it also ronnie and jimmy are very interested and will be trying them out in competition shortly, in fairness to the guy i lashed loadsa questions at him one after the other and he was able to back up everything he was saying

so i suppose in short this cue is the real deal

gerire

Wow it must have overly impressed you to have bought one straight away. Ill hold my own judgement until I get on in my hand. I am glad you like it and good luck with it.

denachoman

miju wrote:

for starters i've never done a deep screwback shot thats gone the full length of the table (best i usually get is about half way) but lo and behold I tried to screw it back the full length of the table 6 times in a row and EVERYTIME I did it, tried the same with my usual cue afterwards and bupkiss and i mis cued it something awful, so yer man gives me the acuerate one again and tells me to try and miscue the ball again i tried 4 times cracking practically bottom of the white with ridiculous power and the ball didnt even jump let alone result in a miscue

miju wrote:

so this cue subsconsiously trains you to shoot straighter as it practically elimnates unwanted side,

Do you work for these guys or something? Your 2 quotes than I have highlighted are completely contradictory. On the one hand you are saying the cue gives excellent screwback
i.e. it reacts very well to the application of screwback

and on the other hand you are saying it gets rid of unwanted side
i.e. it reacts very poorly to the application of side

How can you have a cue that reacts very well to screwback/topspin/side when you mean to do it but ignores screwback/topspin/side when you do it accidentally?
Is this cue in some way self-aware? Can it decipher when you mean to apply side or screw and when you do it accidentally?

miju

denachoman wrote:

Do you work for these guys or something?

most definitely not

denachoman wrote:

On the one hand you are saying the cue gives excellent screwback
i.e. it reacts very well to the application of screwback

not just screwback all kinds of spin shots

denachoman wrote:

and on the other hand you are saying it gets rid of unwanted side
i.e. it reacts very poorly to the application of side

no it reacts well to the intentional application of side

denachoman wrote:

How can you have a cue that reacts very well to screwback/topspin/side when you mean to do it but ignores screwback/topspin/side when you do it accidentally?

because when you play spin shots you usually play them differently (follow through more) than shots you play dead weight / stun etc (which you wouldnt follow through as much on) and this is when unwanted side creeps in which the cue corrects to a great extent

at the end of the day your a sceptic, as was i, i'd recommend you to go to a demo try the cue out and then see for yourself, as far as im concerned i was highly impressed by the cue and it works IMHO and to be honest you can't really say otherwise until you have the cue in your hand and have tried at which point you'll change your opinion

denachoman

Fair enough - I guess I shouldn't pass judgement until I've tried it. It's just the idea of a cue not reacting to side/spin in the normal fashion makes me a bit apprehensive. I don't think I could feel confident using it not knowing exactly how it will react to the spin I put on the cue ball.

Judean Reg

You wouldn't happen to be knocking around the racecourse tonight would you? I wouldn't mind getting a shot of that cue. Liam wouldn't happen to have one there on display that I could have a go of maybe?

miju

sundays, mondays and tuesdays are my usual days for playing the racer, i'm not sure but yer man was saying something about leaving a couple for Liam but was eavesdropping so not too sure

Judean Reg

Cheers miju. Sure I'll be in there later on tonight and I'll have a chat with him to see if he has one. After reading your write up I cant wait to have a go of one for myself. If I get a shot of one I'll post up on it on Monday.

miju

no bother, sure if your around mon, tues ask liam to point damo out and ill give you a quick shot of it if he hasnt got any

Judean Reg

Hey Miju, I was in with Liam on Friday night, and he said that only for the fact that he knew you, he would have assumed you were a plant brought in by the sales guy. He said he has never seen you play some of the shots you made before. Sounds like it is some cue alright, just a pity you were only after buying a new one. Still, if it improves your game, it's money well spent. Not sure if I could justify it's price tag at my standard, however the very best of luck to you with it. Maybe I'll come accross you in there some night and get a look at it for myself, and maybe then, money wont matter. We'll see. Happy cueing.

miju

liams face was funny when i was doing the screwback shots and a couple of the other types when the ball just took off at crazy speed

i practically had to pick his jaw off the floor, it's gonna have me enjoying the game so much more now as i wont be as frustrated when i miss shots that i know i should have potted no bother (and im not being cocky here) theres very little I cant pot consistincy is my problem and me reckons this cue will sort that in no time

anyways, like i said when your down in the racer ask liam to point me out and i'll give you a shot for abotu 10 minutes (i gaurd my cues jealously since one of my friends snapped one on my in a drunken rage)