Velvet Revolver and Audioslave are obsolete dinosaurs.

Whiskeyjack

Having been a fan of RATM and Guns N' Roses I found it difficult to accept this fact but it seems painfullly obvious to me at this stage, they're just mediocre husks of the bands they used to be.To me it seems like these guys are just massaging each others ego's and churning out the same dull crap because they know people will listen to them because of their respective histories.They have no passion anymore;Tom Morello sounds like a guitarist trying to sound like Tom Morello and playing the same bloody riff over and over,
the same could be said about Slash and as for Scott Wieland and Chriss Cornell, well I'm surprised their able to sing at all with their heads stuck so far up their own arses.Someone needs to stand up and say the emporer is bollock naked:they suck, plain and simple.

projectmayhem

velvet revolver are rubbish IMO but i've never been a gnr fan. but i do enjoy a lot of audioslaves stuff. audioslave will definitely be the ultimate "greatest hits" band, as each album seems to have a few great songs padded with absolute tripe (that's right, i used the word "tripe" referring to rock bands)

Black hole sun

projectmayhem wrote:

velvet revolver are rubbish IMO but i've never been a gnr fan. but i do enjoy a lot of audioslaves stuff. audioslave will definitely be the ultimate "greatest hits" band, as each album seems to have a few great songs padded with absolute tripe (that's right, i used the word "tripe" referring to rock bands)

true true

is it just me are does every morrello solo sound like 'thank christ hes shut up now i can play', just this weird vibe i get off them

Hitch-Hiker

I don'y like VR at all, although I never could stand Scott Weiland in the first place anyway.

I have to disagree about Audioslave though. Cornell's voice is still powerful and never fails to send shivers down my back. His songwriting remains as good as ever too. I loved the first album - only two songs I didn't like. The new album I didn't think much of at first but it has really grown on me. I think it's stronger than their first, and having seen them twice I can safely say they're a great live band. Tim Commerford and Brad Wilk drive the rythym just as well as they always did. Morello I concede hs lost something. It seems like he tries to pack his effects into every solo whether he need too or not.

dimerocks

i disagree on both counts more so in favour of velvet revolver.

Doctor J

Two decent, if unspectacular, bands who haven't lived up to the legacies of their previous bands tbh.

Nea

Velvet Revolver are poo imo but I do love Audioslave.
I think Chris has an amazing voice although I prefer his solo stuff.
Out of Exile was a bit lacking tho.

I saw them at Brixton last June and they were fantastic but they were as boring as feck when I saw them years previous in the Point(then again the Point is a shyte venue)

This also used to happen with Soundgarden amazing one night and muck the next so I dunno if this is all down to Chris being in a good mood or not.

I do think that Dr.J has a point tho!

Blisterman

I disagree. I think velvet revolver are as good, if not better than post-appetite for destruction, Guns N Roses.

Frank Bullitt

both are great bands

brianthebard

I think Audioslave's first album was brilliant. And while the second wasn't as good, there were still moments, many more than could be found on QOTSA's last album. I'm not going to comment about velvet revolver because I haven't listened to a full album and I believe in making an informed decision.

honru

Doctor J wrote:

Two decent, if unspectacular, bands who haven't lived up to the legacies of their previous bands tbh.

Pretty much sums them up in a nutshell.

Patricide

Whiskeyjack wrote:

Having been a fan of RATM and Guns N' Roses I found it difficult to accept this fact but it seems painfullly obvious to me at this stage, they're just mediocre husks of the bands they used to be.To me it seems like these guys are just massaging each others ego's and churning out the same dull crap because they know people will listen to them because of their respective histories.They have no passion anymore;Tom Morello sounds like a guitarist trying to sound like Tom Morello and playing the same bloody riff over and over,
the same could be said about Slash and as for Scott Wieland and Chriss Cornell, well I'm surprised their able to sing at all with their heads stuck so far up their own arses.Someone needs to stand up and say the emporer is bollock naked:they suck, plain and simple.

Finally someone who agrees with me although the first audioslave album was good IMO.

mickymg2003

Velver Revolver are better that GnR(After Appetite For Distruction)

Audioslave are good but nowhere near the level of RATM and the Second album was a bad one imo.

Creature

Don't really have an opinion on VR but I'm like Audioslave a lot. Nothing like Soundgarden or RATM but a great band on their own right. Their first album IMO was good but lacking. their second album however was excellent with a superb range of songs. The one thing I will say about them is that they tend to release the weakest songs of each album as singles which doesn't do them any favours.

Wickla in Blaa

RATM and GnR were 2 of my favourite groups while growing up but I can't get into either of these 2 groups.

Totally agree with Whiskeyjack!! Although my musical tastes have really really changed over the years. Both bands smack of What Dr Phil would probably make up on the spot as 'used to be's' syndrome

confetti

yeah i agree that both bands seem to be going through the motions and lack the hunger/passion that the original bands had.

Orizio

Being a massive RATM fan,Audioslave was a real disapointment,thanks almost completely to me despising Cornell's voice and his lyrics.

VR are not worth talking about.

paulmartin

mickymg2003 wrote:

Velver Revolver are better that GnR(After Appetite For Distruction)

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Not a chance. I like VR but the Use Your Illusions are two of the best rock albums ever made. The problem with VR is although there's some really good songs there's nothing spectacular like November Rain, 14 Years, Coma, Civil War, You Could Be Mine, Don't Cry, Locomotive, Estranged, etc. or going back further, Paradise City or Sweet Child.

Still VR are a good band in their own right and one of the best around right now, but nowhere close to a monster like GnR.

Audioslave are decent, but they sound real formulaic, it's just too predictable or something, I don't know, and Morello's solos (which sounded so amazing in a Rock-Rap group) sound out of place with their Classic Rock sound. Man Or Animal is a great song though.

Hitch-Hiker

Nea wrote:

Velvet Revolver are poo imo but I do love Audioslave.
I think Chris has an amazing voice although I prefer his solo stuff.
Out of Exile was a bit lacking tho.

I saw them at Brixton last June and they were fantastic but they were as boring as feck when I saw them years previous in the Point(then again the Point is a shyte venue)

This also used to happen with Soundgarden amazing one night and muck the next so I dunno if this is all down to Chris being in a good mood or not.

I do think that Dr.J has a point tho!

You serious? The show in the Point was bloody amazing. Cornell was spot on all night and looked like he was having a great time too. It is true what you say about him being hot and cold though. I've heard this from a lot of people.

Mushy

Persoanlly i think VR are a great band! They were never gonna be as big as GNR, would hardly be possible. But slash and Duff dont want to be known as "ex-GNR" members. They want to dissasociate themselves with that by now. Another good band was Slashes Snakepit. some good stuff to listen to.

I also like Audioslave. Not huge into them but i like them. Stick on their albums every so often. But why did QOTSA get mentioned in here? That last album was great. SFTD was just a once off pure hard rock experience of an album. Done amazingly well. But the two before that are "weird" sounding. Great albums but not quite SFTD and not quite LTP! Everyone compares QOTSA albums with SFTD. Rated R was a better album IMO. Which reminds me, they might play over here in June! All happy now

weemcd

Mushy wrote:

Persoanlly i think VR are a great band! They were never gonna be as big as GNR, would hardly be possible. But slash and Duff dont want to be known as "ex-GNR" members. They want to dissasociate themselves with that by now. Another good band was Slashes Snakepit. some good stuff to listen to.

I also like Audioslave. Not huge into them but i like them. Stick on their albums every so often. But why did QOTSA get mentioned in here? That last album was great. SFTD was just a once off pure hard rock experience of an album. Done amazingly well. But the two before that are "weird" sounding. Great albums but not quite SFTD and not quite LTP! Everyone compares QOTSA albums with SFTD. Rated R was a better album IMO. Which reminds me, they might play over here in June! All happy now

Mabye he was just using qotsa as a modern rock comparison to the supergroups like audioslave and vr? Or mabye he was saying qotsa where a supergroup themselves? They have had members from some fairly big name bands in their ever changing line up: ( soundgarden, pearl jam, apc, kuss, foo fighters.)

bah, definitions aside, i enjoy all 3 groups (qotsa moreso :P)

Somnus

I'm a RATM fan but i love Audioslave aswell. They have two different styles of music so if you were a huge Rage fan then its understandable that you may not like Audioslave,especially seen as the vocals are very different (My girlfriend cant stand RATM but likes Audioslave,mainly because of the vocals)

I think both bands are excellent

dimerocks

the new guns tracks that have surfaced are probably better than the velvet revolver songs but that said guns and revolver are two completely different bands musically.

LittleKitty

not this old chesnut again.......

rovert

I never ever thought members of soundgarden and especially R.A.T.M. would become so middle of the road

s8n

Dont agree with OP

finhex

s8n wrote: »

Dont agree with OP

Thank you very much that after 15 years you let us know!

For Forks Sake

s8n wrote: »

Dont agree with OP

Jimmy Bottlehead

Never mind Audioslave and Velvet Revolver - this thread is an obsolete dinosaur!

Mecrab

Id say we'd all kill for a new rock band that's as good as Velvet Revolver or Audioslave in 2021..

cosatron

Mecrab wrote: »

Id say we'd all kill for a new rock band that's as good as Velvet Revolver or Audioslave in 2021..

will this ever happen again, its being a loooong time since i was excited by a new ablum released by a new up and coming band with their own sound.

Say Your Number

There are plenty of good young-ish bands out there.

On VR and Audioslave, I thought Scott Weiland's voice was a bit weak for the rock stuff, he was great for the ballads, The Last Fight and Can't Get It Out Of My Head are some of the few songs I like by them.

Audioslave were hit and miss, I love the first album, Show Me How To Live, Like a Stone, Shadow on the Sun, I Am The Highway and Last Remaining Light are all great, listened to Revelations after Chris Cornell died and it was much better than I remembered, his presence is still badly missed.

cosatron

Say Your Number wrote: »

There are plenty of good young-ish bands out there.

On VR and Audioslave, I thought Scott Weiland's voice was a bit weak for the rock stuff, he was great for the ballads, The Last Fight and Can't Get It Out Of My Head are some of the few songs I like by them.

Audioslave were hit and miss, I love the first album, Show Me How To Live, Like a Stone, Shadow on the Sun, I Am The Highway and Last Remaining Light are all great, listened to Revelations after Chris Cornell died and it was much better than I remembered, his presence is still badly missed.

who are the good young-ish band, im kinda out of the loop and would like some new music.

Jimmy Bottlehead

cosatron wrote: »

who are the good young-ish band, im kinda out of the loop and would like some new music.

AC/DC, they're a young up and coming band out of Australia. Their frontman Bon Scott is definitely irreplacable.

Ash.J.Williams

interesting that slash has no happy memories of VR at all


generic

cosatron

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

AC/DC, they're a young up and coming band out of Australia. Their frontman Bon Scott is definitely irreplacable.

ha, did ye hear about this ginger lad out of hollywood, his got some wail

Ash.J.Williams

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

AC/DC, they're a young up and coming band out of Australia. Their frontman Bon Scott is definitely irreplacable.

All the young ones love bon scott!

Say Your Number

cosatron wrote: »

who are the good young-ish band, im kinda out of the loop and would like some new music.

Lari Basilio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhO2v7NUgO4

Joanne Shaw Taylor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRiiL6Aqgag

Beast in Black

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4waVZXKE0GU

Cellar Darling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiHt3qR4gzM

Unleash the Archers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqUPGa15Oto

Black Stone Cherry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO4ib5xC7Fk

Myrkur

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9cNZQIzShc

Most of these didn't exist when Velvet Revolver broke up in 2008.

Furious-Red

I'd also add Halestorm to that mix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpJAmlnBxoA

Mecrab

Furious-Red wrote: »

I'd also add Halestorm to that mix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpJAmlnBxoA

That song is from 2012. Halestorm had promise pity they become pretty forgettable

D.Q

This thread reminded me that 2006 was 15 years ago, please shut it down immediately.

beauf

I've only recently discovered Audioslave. They have some epic tracks, but I couldn't get into any of their albums.

I was a huge GnR fan and was around when they came on the scene, and was into a lot of the LA rock at the time.
I've never liked Scott Weiland in VR. I just don't like his voice. Seems better on his own. VR I could never get into. Seems less than the sum of its parts.

berettaman

Saw this thread and I was wondering what had happened..:D


Saw VR few years ago. Saw GNR live in 1992. Comparisons are unfair.


You meet a nice girl when you are both 19, don't expect her to be the same when you are both 47!!;):D

Church on Tuesday

Mecrab wrote: »

Id say we'd all kill for a new rock band that's as good as Velvet Revolver or Audioslave in 2021..

You will be waiting quite some time.

Those two bands were the dying embers of the decadent rock 'n roll lifestyle that simply can't be replicated or indeed could continue for much longer.

Rock and metal are at an all time low in terms of popularity right now. It tends to go in cycles; the 70s, 80s, 90s and early 00s (whatever you think of nu metal, it was certainly innovative with the groundwork laid by Korn back in 94) were seminal decades for the genres. There seemed to be a bit of a revival in the late 00s to very early 10s but that is long since gone. They could come back to massive popularity, but there needs to be an inspiration.

Audioslave is a great album if slightly by the numbers and Out of Exile is great for how diverse it is. VR's Contraband is slightly by the numbers too but compared to redundant recent nonsense like Greta Van Fleet, it's basically a classic and Libertad worked in places.

It's sad we lost two great voices of their generation. You won't see or hear the like of them ever again.

Granadino

On a side note, another Army of Anyone album could be a good thing. Richard Patrick's vocals really suited that project. While the current Korn drummer was on it, I think he went a bit OTT on some of the songs, but still a solid album.

bonzothedog

berettaman wrote: »

Saw this thread and I was wondering what had happened..:D


Saw VR few years ago. Saw GNR live in 1992. Comparisons are unfair.


You meet a nice girl when you are both 19, don't expect her to be the same when you are both 47!!;):D

I'd still do both of them

Ash.J.Williams

bonzothedog wrote: »

I'd still do both of them

me too

Any good original hard rock/metal band knocking around small town Ireland the last few years? Stereo Nasty (Carlow/Kildare) really hit the spot when they were around. An 80s Ozzy buzz off them.

thebronze14

Audioslave's first two albums were unreal. They went a bit stale by the third

CptMonkey

Loved the first audio slave album. Didn’t care much for the other ones.

was the same for qotsa songs for the deaf. Loved that album, maybe even my favourite ever but never liked their other stuff.

Layne

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117917586#Comment_117917586

Couldn't agree more especially with QOTSA.

Songs for the Deaf is one of my all time favourite albums. The rock radio interludes, the ferocious Nick Olivieri on bass and vocals (especially on Six Shooter!!) and the tone change on songs with Lanegan on vocals. A monster of an album. Almost everything from them since has been average by comparision imo.