Boycott the Irish Daily Mail

finlma

I'd appeal to anyone not to buy the Irish Daily Mail. It is a rag of the highest order. Not only is it a rag - it's a right-wing, anti-immigrant, anti-Irish, anti-Europe, racist piece of crap.

Here are 2 stories that appeared in English version in the past:

1994 : Paul Johnson (Columnist).
Whilst writing on of the Mail's favourite topics - sponging immigrants - he said that certain nationalities specialise in defrauding British taxpayers "First into the field, needless to say, were the Irish", he wrote, accusing us of flocking to Britain to claim the dole "as a kind of patriotic duty".

1996 : Bruce Anderson (columnist)
In an article attacking Ireland's then EU Commissioner over his European agricultural policies, he repeated Johnson's allegations, and said "As soon as you arrive in Ireland you leave the modern world". He described the West of Ireland as "a world of farm subsidies and corruption... based on the pig and potato and ruled over by the priest".He also libelled Padraig Flynn personally by trotting out all the usual anti-Irish character stereotypes. The Mail eventually publically apologised for this article, and paid-out damages to Flynn.

magpie

But it promotes family values and is marketed at women who work in offices. Its your Irish Daily Mail!

SoupyNorman

finlma wrote:

I'd appeal to anyone not to buy the Irish Daily Mail. It is a rag of the highest order. Not only is it a rag - it's a right-wing, anti-immigrant, anti-Irish, anti-Europe, racist piece of crap.

Here are 2 stories that appeared in English version in the past:

1994 : Paul Johnson (Columnist).
Whilst writing on of the Mail's favourite topics - sponging immigrants - he said that certain nationalities specialise in defrauding British taxpayers "First into the field, needless to say, were the Irish", he wrote, accusing us of flocking to Britain to claim the dole "as a kind of patriotic duty".

1996 : Bruce Anderson (columnist)
In an article attacking Ireland's then EU Commissioner over his European agricultural policies, he repeated Johnson's allegations, and said "As soon as you arrive in Ireland you leave the modern world". He described the West of Ireland as "a world of farm subsidies and corruption... based on the pig and potato and ruled over by the priest".He also libelled Padraig Flynn personally by trotting out all the usual anti-Irish character stereotypes. The Mail eventually publically apologised for this article, and paid-out damages to Flynn.

FIGHT THE POWER.

I'm in...

cil_aine

the daily mail is an awful paper. rubbish journalism on top of the right-wing bias.

Kinetic^

I don't actually know anyone that buys this paper so I'm doing my part already.

joejoem

I had to laugh at the add, "she buys it to keep herself fit" as she runs across a bridge looking at the newspaper. I wonder how long it is before she gets splated by a truck.

whiskeyman

As long as they don't publish offensive cartoons about us...

:rolleyes:

scojones

I don't buy any newspaper. They're all rubbish. I have the internets! I read the stories I want to read!

Hobart

finlma wrote:

I'd appeal to anyone not to buy the Irish Daily Mail. It is a rag of the highest order. Not only is it a rag - it's a right-wing, anti-immigrant, anti-Irish, anti-Europe, racist piece of crap.

<snip>

What papers would you suggest we read/purchase?

flogen

finlma wrote:

I'd appeal to anyone not to buy the Irish Daily Mail. It is a rag of the highest order. Not only is it a rag - it's a right-wing, anti-immigrant, anti-Irish, anti-Europe, racist piece of crap.

Here are 2 stories that appeared in English version in the past:

1994 : Paul Johnson (Columnist).
Whilst writing on of the Mail's favourite topics - sponging immigrants - he said that certain nationalities specialise in defrauding British taxpayers "First into the field, needless to say, were the Irish", he wrote, accusing us of flocking to Britain to claim the dole "as a kind of patriotic duty".

1996 : Bruce Anderson (columnist)
In an article attacking Ireland's then EU Commissioner over his European agricultural policies, he repeated Johnson's allegations, and said "As soon as you arrive in Ireland you leave the modern world". He described the West of Ireland as "a world of farm subsidies and corruption... based on the pig and potato and ruled over by the priest".He also libelled Padraig Flynn personally by trotting out all the usual anti-Irish character stereotypes. The Mail eventually publically apologised for this article, and paid-out damages to Flynn.

any links?

cil_aine

the people who read it are even worst, they're ignorant snobs of the highest degree.

whiskeyman

cil_aine wrote:

the people who read it are even worst, they're ignorant snobs of the highest degree.

People who complain about a readership of a paper other than their favourite are the ignorant snobs of the highest degree in my opinion.


If you dont like it, dont buy it... but to hold a grudge against someone who does is just ridiculous.

flogen

whiskeyman wrote:

People who complain about a readership of a paper other than their favourite are the ignorant snobs of the highest degree in my opinion.


If you dont like it, dont buy it... but to hold a grudge against someone who does is just ridiculous.

well said.

magpie

ignorant snobs of the highest degree

+

Je ne regrette de rien

= irony

(The French sig makes you a snob, getting it wrong makes you ignorant )

finlma

Hobart wrote:

What papers would you suggest we read/purchase?

Whatever you like except that paper. My personal choice would be the Examiner.

magpie

the Examiner

That Munster Propaganda? NEVER!

scojones

cil_aine wrote:

the people who read it are even worst, they're ignorant snobs of the highest degree.

Hello Generalisation!

whiskeyman

finlma wrote:

Whatever you like except that paper.

Out of interest, would you boycott any papers that have published the controversial Muhammad cartoons?
Do you feel they should have published them?

scargill

I work in the UK regularly and the B&B where I stay always has this paper. I would have to agree that is very right wing in its approach. A lot of stories have an anti-immigrant, anti-EU, pro-British undercurrent. Which is fair enough - everyone in the UK knows that and can choose to ignore the paper if they wish.

I remember one particular headline on the paper a few months after September 11th 2001. Something like... "While world fights terrorism - Ireland honours their terrorists" (along those lines)

It was about the reinterment of bodies of executed IRA men from Mountjoy to Glasnevin.

scojones

whiskeyman wrote:

Out of interest, would you boycott any papers that have published the controversial Muhammad cartoons?
Do you feel they should have published them?

Ohhh here we go. Yes they should have published them, why fear muslims? They're all insane [generalisation]. You publish a cartoon and they go killing and burning. Look at what southpark did with Jesus. Did we go burning canadian flags? No. We cannot accept this behaviour from muslims.

finlma

whiskeyman wrote:

Out of interest, would you boycott any papers that have published the controversial Muhammad cartoons?
Do you feel they should have published them?

No - I'm all for freedom os speech but I don't see why an anti-immigrant and anti-Irish paper with a racist agenda should succeed here in Ireland.

They can print what they like - I'm just hoping that people won't buy it and they fail miserably.

scargill

cant find the Daily Mail article. reaction to it here

flogen

Please keep the Muhammed cartoon issue for another thread.

Back on topic.

whiskeyman

finlma wrote:

No - I'm all for freedom os speech but I don't see why an anti-immigrant and anti-Irish paper with a racist agenda should succeed here in Ireland.

They can print what they like - I'm just hoping that people won't buy it and they fail miserably.

Just as I expected.
I doubt they'll keep the "anti-Irish" view you appear to feel they have.
Anything else, be it right-wing, anti-immigrant etc.., is freedom of speech (within reason of course - libel laws etc.) and there's obviously a market for it here.
Don't shoot the messenger...

Flogen - I just felt it appropriate to ask regarding the cartoon issue as I had to find out if the OP would boycott a paper if it published material offensive to others.

super_furry

I'm actually stunned they tried to market it here. The Mail is a right-wing, Tory, middle-England newspaper that so concerned with warning it's readers about immigrants and travellers that they often do little else. Why they think it'll be a success here is beyond me.

Agent Smith

i dont buy newspapers often, soin a way i'm boycoting it

finlma

Whiskeyman,

I'm not calling for the paper to be banned just boycotted - there's a big difference. Like I said previously I'm all for free speech.

It has clearly proved that it is anti-irish and therefore I don't see why Irish people should buy the paper.

hepcat

super_furry wrote:

I'm actually stunned they tried to market it here. The Mail is a right-wing, Tory, middle-England newspaper that so concerned with warning it's readers about immigrants and travellers that they often do little else. Why they think it'll be a success here is beyond me.

Well why are the Sun and the NOTW successful? And I'm sure there are plenty right-wing conservative types here who will simply lap up stuff against immigrants and travellers, unfortunately:( Hope not, but it will probably sell pretty well.

whiskeyman

finlma wrote:

I'm not calling for the paper to be banned just boycotted - there's a big difference.

I never said anything about the paper being banned.

finlma wrote:

It has clearly proved that it is anti-irish and therefore I don't see why Irish people should buy the paper.

If you really are for free speech, you won't be advising people to boycott any legal media outlet.
Can't you see the hypocrisy of your plight?

Turner

Just heard on the Joe Duffy show that one of their journalists tried to gain entry to the labour room that Miriam O Callaghan was recovering in at Holles St hospital.

The journalist posed as a family friend before being confronted by Miriams husband.

I know that most tabloid journalists are lowlifes but that was as low as it gets.

She underwent a C-Section and I presume all the journalist wanted was a picture of her looking exhausted without wearing any makeup.

shroomfox

If you really are for free speech, you won't be advising people to boycott any legal media outlet.

Can't you see the hypocrisy of your plight?

That's not hypocrisy at all.

A boycott is a method of expressing disapproval, so it's covered under freedom of expression as well. It might work towards the failure of the paper, but that's not censorship, it's disapproval. As long as it's not in a violent manner, and you don't have control over the person expressing their views (an important element) it's not curtailing any freedoms.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can't criticise others' opinions and attitudes!

finlma

whiskeyman wrote:

If you really are for free speech, you won't be advising people to boycott any legal media outlet.
Can't you see the hypocrisy of your plight?

Eh - no. There's no hypocrisy in what I'm saying. They have a right to print whatever they want just as I have a right to want them to fail and hence ask people to boycott their paper.

If I called for them to be banned from Ireland then I'd be a hyprocrite.

Can't you see the non-hypocrisy of my plight (In a condesceding and sarcastic tone).

super_furry

hepcat wrote:

Well why are the Sun and the NOTW successful? And I'm sure there are plenty right-wing conservative types here who will simply lap up stuff against immigrants and travellers, unfortunately:( Hope not, but it will probably sell pretty well.

Because they have semi-naked women and Big Brother coverage.

whiskeyman

finlma wrote:

Eh - no. There's no hypocrisy in what I'm saying. They have a right to print whatever they want just as I have a right to want them to fail and hence ask people to boycott their paper.

If I called for them to be banned from Ireland then I'd be a hyprocrite.

Can't you see the non-hypocrisy of my plight (In a condesceding and sarcastic tone).

Fair enough - I stand corrected on the hypocrisy note.
However, I feel that asking for a boycott here shouldn't be the main issue.

If this paper really is the anti-irish, right-wing rag you make it out to be, the real issue is the demand that's (potentially) there for it.
Perhaps the media has been to left-wing and now some people are turning against the bias?

We'll see once the next JNRS come out.

solskjaer20

Damn right we should boycott that anti-Irish rag.

After the bomb hoax at the Engliah Grand National (1994 wasn't it?).......they called or all Irish to be banned from all sports.

They've also said Bobby Sands "cowardly commited suicide".

They've also called for no Irish to be allowed into Britain.

It's the biggest load of trash there is.

Lump

1996 was soooo 10 years ago.

John

county

solskjaer20 wrote:

Damn right we should boycott that anti-Irish rag.

After the bomb hoax at the Engliah Grand National (1994 wasn't it?).......they called or all Irish to be banned from all sports.

They've also said Bobby Sands "cowardly commited suicide".

They've also called for no Irish to be allowed into Britain.

It's the biggest load of trash there is.

please back up you points as i find them very hard to believe,thanks

REDZ

finlma wrote:

I'd appeal to anyone not to buy the Irish Daily Mail. It is a rag of the highest order. Not only is it a rag - it's a right-wing, anti-immigrant, anti-Irish, anti-Europe, racist piece of crap.

Here are 2 stories that appeared in English version in the past:

1994 : Paul Johnson (Columnist).
Whilst writing on of the Mail's favourite topics - sponging immigrants - he said that certain nationalities specialise in defrauding British taxpayers "First into the field, needless to say, were the Irish", he wrote, accusing us of flocking to Britain to claim the dole "as a kind of patriotic duty".

1996 : Bruce Anderson (columnist)
In an article attacking Ireland's then EU Commissioner over his European agricultural policies, he repeated Johnson's allegations, and said "As soon as you arrive in Ireland you leave the modern world". He described the West of Ireland as "a world of farm subsidies and corruption... based on the pig and potato and ruled over by the priest".He also libelled Padraig Flynn personally by trotting out all the usual anti-Irish character stereotypes. The Mail eventually publically apologised for this article, and paid-out damages to Flynn.

Here Here!

REDZ

In fact buying any english based paper further contributes to the erosion of our cultural identity.

magpie

In fact buying any english based paper further contributes to the erosion of our cultural identity.

This trend can only be reversed by speaking Irish, listening to Kila and administering the occasional punishment beating.

hockey bilboa

Not only should the Daily Mail be boycotted for being anti-irish, the free Metro newspaper and Ireland on Sunday should also be boycotted of which the Daily Mail (Associated Newspapers)owns a substantial share.

mike65

What are you banging on about? Its the IRISH Daily Mail you're reading (or not!). It won't be publishing any stories like the Paul Johnson giggle-fest lest it be burned out by rampaging Muslims er Micks.

Mike.

lazydaisy

REDZ wrote:

In fact buying any english based paper further contributes to the erosion of our cultural identity.

What newspapers are Irish?

What TV media is Irish?

flogen

lazydaisy wrote:

What newspapers are Irish?

What TV media is Irish?

The Irish Times, The Irish Indo, The Herald..

RTE, TG4, City Channel (:D), Channel 6 will be too.

solskjaer20

county wrote:

please back up you points as i find them very hard to believe,thanks

How? Do you think I have the newspapers on me?

flogen

solskjaer20 wrote:

How? Do you think I have the newspapers on me?

If you decide to make such an accusatory statement you should be prepared to back it up with facts; otherwise you should retract it.

solskjaer20

Thas like prove you were in Cavan last week.....I can't.
Doesn't mean I wasn't.

flogen

solskjaer20 wrote:

Thas like prove you were in Cavan last week.....I can't.
Doesn't mean I wasn't.

True, but it everyone has the right to say that you weren't; you've failed to back up your assertion with facts.
The comments you made would blacken the newspaper company quite a lot if true; so they're not the kind of things you'd want to say lightly.
I suggest you edit your comment or else prove it to be true

nlgbbbblth

The Daily Mail is an appalling, inflammatory rag.

But The Sun and The News Of The World are WORSE. Newspapers for braindead and unimaginative losers.

Don't hear anyone calling for them to be boycotted. Why not?

jrey1981

I do not see how the Irish Daily Mail is that bad really...the arguments against it can be put against all newspapers at some time or other, depending on what is in the news. The Irish Independent can be equally sickening at times, but in different ways, ditto the others.

As long as you do not take what you read as gospel and are able to discern what has some truth in it from what is designed to appeal to a readers prejudices, then there is no problem.

And as others have said, if you despise them all, then at least we can now pick and choose news from loads of sources on the net.

solskjaer20

flogen wrote:

True, but it everyone has the right to say that you weren't; you've failed to back up your assertion with facts.
The comments you made would blacken the newspaper company quite a lot if true; so they're not the kind of things you'd want to say lightly.
I suggest you edit your comment or else prove it to be true

I read the last two comments with my own two eyes.....and I've been told y two separate people of the first one.

And the comments hardly blacken the newspaper.....the sort of people who buy it want to hear those sort of comments.