How to play 4 of a kind

BrokenArrows

Got 4 of a kind twice yesterday.

1 in my hand and 2 on the flop and 1 on the turn both times

Just wondering how to properly play this to extract the most money?

shoutman

I think really we need more info on the current game conditions to give a decent answer. Ie. how many players in the hand, what are the blind levels what are the current chip stacks, any raises preflop? could you put any of your opponents on hands that the flop could of hit or on pocket pairs etc.

At the moment i just wouldnt hazzard to give an answer.

a-k-47

tell you how i played my poker few days again. first hand of 4k gtd speed, im MP with AK off blinds 30/60 make it 200. 2 callers sb utg. flop K,K,K happy days, utg leads out for 160, call,sb calls, turn 3, utg makes it 160, call sb folds, river 8, utg makes it 300 , re raise all in, by now its obviously he has a pocket pair fh, maybe he feels pot commited and doesnt think i have the k, thinks im bluffing and calls. only way i thought of playing this was to slow play it and let him do the betting till the river

shoutman

a-k-47 wrote:

tell you how i played my poker few days again. first hand of 4k gtd speed, im MP with AK off blinds 30/60 make it 200. 2 callers sb utg. flop K,K,K happy days, utg leads out for 160, call,sb calls, turn 3, utg makes it 160, call sb folds, river 8, utg makes it 300 , re raise all in, by now its obviously he has a pocket pair fh, maybe he feels pot commited and doesnt think i have the k, thinks im bluffing and calls. only way i thought of playing this was to slow play it and let him do the betting till the river

Well played hand, point to note that iin these speed tourneys it is rare enough that you see hands checked down so slow playing big hands pay big, especially on a flop like kkk, people with any pocket pair feel good and even sometimes people with an a in there hand will bet out strong here.

BrokenArrows

OK i think one of the hands was 6 players involved preflop, i flat called with AT.
BB raises 3xBB.

Two players call including me. Think pot was about $2 at this stage.

FLOP: TJT

Checked around to me and i Bet 2xBB. Dont want everyone to fold out on me.
Everyone folds except 1 he flat calls.

Turn: T

Bet 2xBB again and get called

Flop: 6

Go all in for about $4. Hoping to get a call and make it look like im buying the pot but he folds.
I just thought that if i called another 2xBB its kinda pointess for the ammount of money involved.

But he folded and i get a pot of about 4-5$.

Kinda crap but it really didnt look like anyone had anything else.

Should i have play this differently.


The second one was pretty similar.

ianmc38

Playing 6 handed cash game on fulltilt last night .25/0.50. I've $120. Villain has me just covered. I got dealt pocket 8s in mid position. I call. SB villain raises it preflop to 4xBB. BB calls, I call, everyone else folds. Flop is 789 rainbow. Villain checks, BB checks , i bet 1/2 pot. Villain minraises. BB Folds, i call.

Turn 8. Villain checks, I check.

River Q. Villain leads for $25. I raise all-in and he insta-calls with AA. LOL.

Ste05

I had a similar thing happen to me last night, can't remember the exact details, but I generally play them the same way.

I was in the SB with J9s, 3 limpers, I call, the flop comes down 9910 rainbow. I lead out for 1/2 pot, EP limper calls everyone else folds, Turn comes down another 9. I check, the guy bets just under 1/2 pot, I call. River is a 4 or something similar. I go all-in the guy calls with A10.

In general I like to bet the flop, check the turn to make it look like I'm afraid of the other guy calling me with trips. The other guy thinks the chances of me having the case x is now slim to remote, and then I take it from there after he acts depending on what sort of player he is, how I'm perceived at the table and the size of the stacks.

Obviously this is all very dependant on the situation, but as a rule of thumb this is what I do.....

EDIT: As I say I'm not sure about the exact flop, but I know it was similar to this. And that I led the flop, checked the turn, then led the river. I might have a look at the exact HH when I get home to see for definite the turn and river play can't exactly remember what happened after I checked, But I know I got a large portion of his chips on the river when he had A10.

a-k-47

The other guy thinks the chances of me having the case x is now slim to remote

he obviously hasnt played much online

Ste05

a-k-47 wrote:

he obviously hasnt played much online

LOL, true, maybe I should have said it's now more unlikely that I had trips on the flop, and it now looks like I was caught trying it on and so he's more likely to put money in on the river. Could be flawed thinking, but at the lower levels this is what I've found.....

ianmc38

Ste05 wrote:

LOL, true, maybe I should have said it's now more unlikely that I had trips on the flop, and it now looks like I was caught trying it on and so he's more likely to put money in on the river. Could be flawed thinking, but at the lower levels this is what I've found.....

I second that. 0.25/0.50 players tend to forget there's four of a kind in a deck. Bet, check, jam for me (with the nuts) gets called so many times at that level its insane.

Marq

Bet the flop, bet the turn, bet the river.

brianmc

Marq wrote:

Bet the flop, bet the turn, bet the river.

Finally, someone said it!

agreed.

Jaden

I got howled at for betting on all streets with a flopped set, and turned Quads. Proper order. People always think "God, he's NEVER bet with Quads".

Ste05

brianmc wrote:

Finally, someone said it!

agreed.

I disagree, you've such a strangle hold on the board and it's unlikely he'll call with less than a house.

Also with my style of play, I bet the flop with many draws too and this turn check can sometimes get you a free turn in later hands to hit your draw.

However you have to get money into the pot somehow and no better way to do this then bet. But as with alot of things it depends. :rolleyes:

Culchie

Theres a huge difference between having a pocket pair, flopping the set, and making the quads on the turn or river .... to the example in this hand.

If you flop a set, it's very hard for opponents to pick up, and if you're lucky enough to have an Ace on the board as well, you can normally really get paid well. So bet away to your hearts content.

It's not as easy to get paid having three 10's on the board by the turn, as is the case here, even though I think I would adopt similar approach as villian most likely has a J after calling the flop bet, so he has a house on the turn, and I'd be surprised if he would drop a house.

Norwich Fan Rob

ive posted this b4 in relation to quads, but i just think its kinda funny,

http://www.pokerpages.com/articles/archives/angelo27.htm

Culchie

Fecking brilliant ! :v: