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Whats the story with PS3? & PS3 Release March 2007?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,626 ✭✭✭WarZoneBrother


    I cant believe we have to wait 1 more year and japenese people are just around the corner from getting 1.This is so unfare you would think they would release them on the same day. :'( looks like ill be a sad man till it comes out the 360 will have to do till then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭LookingFor


    Lemlin wrote:
    The new generation will only bring higher prices, and better graphics. Chances aren't it won't add anything to what matters: the gameplay.

    Well the potential is certainly there for them to do so. The new machines offer a lot of opportunities for new and more ambitious gameplay - if developers capitalise on that. Maybe it'll take time, but personally...sign me up for Warhawk on PS3 on day one (it is a launch title, apparently!) :)

    projectmayhem - that list is simply a retailer's guesses. I wouldn't take it as indicative of anything. Some of those titles don't even have publishers. And they're even missing a confirmed launch title (Lair). I can easily imagine PS3 launching with that many titles, but I doubt all of those will make up the numbers (it'll probably be some of them, plus others not on that list or that we don't know of yet).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭LookingFor


    Sony hasn't announced anything, you're reading too many rumours that are rushing to fill the void that is Sony's silence ;)

    My bet is we'll see it by Xmas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,421 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,421 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    LookingFor wrote:
    Well the potential is certainly there for them to do so. The new machines offer a lot of opportunities for new and more ambitious gameplay - if developers capitalise on that. Maybe it'll take time, but personally...sign me up for Warhawk on PS3 on day one (it is a launch title, apparently!) :)

    projectmayhem - that list is simply a retailer's guesses. I wouldn't take it as indicative of anything. Some of those titles don't even have publishers. And they're even missing a confirmed launch title (Lair). I can easily imagine PS3 launching with that many titles, but I doubt all of those will make up the numbers (it'll probably be some of them, plus others not on that list or that we don't know of yet).

    this generation, like the last.. well, 5.. is to push the power of what we have now, giving devs more opportunity to play around. eg. letting snake patch himself up in-game (MGS) etc.

    if you're looking for crazy innovation you have to look a little deeper (katamari damacy etc.). but public buying habbits dictate what the publishers put money into.

    as for launch titles. yeah, there are some missing (i copied/pasted :D) but there are very clear indications that most of them will make european launch. those that don't will follow fairly soon afterwards. I-8 has won my heart anyway :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭LookingFor


    as for launch titles. yeah, there are some missing (i copied/pasted :D) but there are very clear indications that most of them will make european launch. those that don't will follow fairly soon afterwards. I-8 has won my heart anyway :)

    I-8 is likely at launch, or shortly thereafter.

    But things like DMC4, Gran Turismo, Killzone, The Getaway 3 etc. aren't likely at all IMO.

    But there'll be others at launch that aren't on that list, likely games we don't even know about yet :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,421 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    true. didn't notice getaway. that wont be a launch title. nor will killzone (that'll be a few months after). gran turismo will. not gt5... but visionGT


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 158 ✭✭40coats


    Hands on with PS3, not much detail due to NDAs
    http://games.kikizo.com/news/200602/065_p1.asp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭LookingFor


    40coats wrote:
    Hands on with PS3, not much detail due to NDAs
    http://games.kikizo.com/news/200602/065_p1.asp

    Some nice details here and there, but could have done without their "educated guesses". Seemed like they were trying to review the thing based on 3 early games, some of the conclusions they seemed to make were way too premature.

    Still, it's nice to see PS3 pushing things like physics, even so early :)
    An impressive list of simultaneous, wonderfully shaded, dynamic visual effects was evident, but PS3 was also able to throw around tonnes of geometry in terms of realtime 'explosion' calculation - and convincingly affect dozens of objects all at the same time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,030 ✭✭✭Slippin Jimmy


    I cant believe we have to wait 1 more year and japenese people are just around the corner from getting 1.This is so unfare you would think they would release them on the same day. :'( looks like ill be a sad man till it comes out the 360 will have to do till then.

    I was in GAME the other day and I asked the fellow did he have any ideas when it would be released in Ireland. He said that it would be around December. He was saying that it is released in Japan, and he would be happyer to wait because when it gets to Ireland all the problems would be sorted. I think it will be worth the wait. Also he said that it will be more or less the same as the Xbox 360:eek: .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,421 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    employee's in any game retailer know about as much as you and me. i include managers in that. sony aren't going to the retailers with juicy info, so there's no point in even asking them. sony will tell us when it's coming out soon enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,626 ✭✭✭WarZoneBrother


    i was talking to my mate and he said that the ps3 will be realeased in Uk and Northern Ireland in Spring he sent me something about sony saying that i reall do hope that it is out in 4 months and it will have up to 7 controllers in 1 console i think it will be alot better than 360 cause 360 games are terrible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,452 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    xbox suxors!11


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,421 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    i was talking to my mate and he said that the ps3 will be realeased in Uk and Northern Ireland in Spring he sent me something about sony saying that i reall do hope that it is out in 4 months and it will have up to 7 controllers in 1 console i think it will be alot better than 360 cause 360 games are terrible

    lol
    it'll be out by christmas here. and it's not 7 controllers specifically. it's 7 "devices" (keyboard, mouse, eyetoy, headset/mic, etc.)
    xbox suxors!11

    omfg stfu!!!111one22


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭Skyuser


    Are they not doing a worldwide release like xbox did?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,626 ✭✭✭WarZoneBrother


    nope they mustn''t be if its out in japan.but boy i would love to get my hands on
    one now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭LookingFor


    lol
    it'll be out by christmas here. and it's not 7 controllers specifically. it's 7 "devices" (keyboard, mouse, eyetoy, headset/mic, etc.)

    Eyetoy won't use bluetooth. You can have 7 bluetooth devices, + 6 USB devices, and a couple of others that could connect via ethernet (the new eyetoy may in fact connect via ethernet, not USB).

    Also, PS3 is NOT out in Japan. You'd have heard a lot more about it if it were! PS3 at the moment is in media blackout. It'll probably be released there between April and June. I also doubt Sony would do a worldwide simultaneous launch - MS is probably privately wondering if it was the best thing to do, in hindsight. It's great for the customers who can get their hands on one, in the different regions, but from a business perspective, there's not much point if you're only going to spread a million units across the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,421 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    LookingFor wrote:
    Eyetoy won't use bluetooth. You can have 7 bluetooth devices, + 6 USB devices, and a couple of others that could connect via ethernet (the new eyetoy may in fact connect via ethernet, not USB).

    Also, PS3 is NOT out in Japan. You'd have heard a lot more about it if it were! PS3 at the moment is in media blackout. It'll probably be released there between April and June. I also doubt Sony would do a worldwide simultaneous launch - MS is probably privately wondering if it was the best thing to do, in hindsight. It's great for the customers who can get their hands on one, in the different regions, but from a business perspective, there's not much point if you're only going to spread a million units across the world.

    there's 7 USB ports, doesn't mean 7 bluetooth devices


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭steviec


    there's 7 USB ports, doesn't mean 7 bluetooth devices


    It's definitely 7 bluetooth devices and it's completely independent of USB ports.
    Having a hub and up to 7 devices connected to it is simply how Bluetooth works, that's why it's a weird number its just the maximum the format supports.

    All of those devices will be joypads most likely. Remember, the joypads are wireless so that means bluetooth. It makes more sense for things like eyetoy to plug into a usb port, a wireless eyetoy that needs a battery would be kind of pointless. It would make sense for stuff like headsets to use bluetooth though, if they don't plug into the pad like on 360.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭GrumPy


    nope they mustn''t be if its out in japan.but boy i would love to get my hands on
    one now.

    wait, correct me if im wrong, but are you saying it's out in japan? lol if you believe that, you'd believe anything?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,421 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    steviec wrote:
    It's definitely 7 bluetooth devices and it's completely independent of USB ports.
    Having a hub and up to 7 devices connected to it is simply how Bluetooth works, that's why it's a weird number its just the maximum the format supports.

    All of those devices will be joypads most likely. Remember, the joypads are wireless so that means bluetooth. It makes more sense for things like eyetoy to plug into a usb port, a wireless eyetoy that needs a battery would be kind of pointless. It would make sense for stuff like headsets to use bluetooth though, if they don't plug into the pad like on 360.


    it appears we're both right... except i'm wrong. i checked one of the spec sheets and it's 7 wireless devices and 6 USB slots... Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)


  • Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    An interesting read here - Impressions of a developer's near complete PS3 kit:
    http://games.kikizo.com/news/200602/065_p1.asp

    They make much of the lack of 1080p output in the games but most TVs sold now don't do 1080p it probably won't make a difference to most, and considering that people still don't even know the advantages of RGB SCART and insist on using those cruddy composite cables, gamers of the future probably won't even use component cables to play!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,421 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    read that article and went on a mad rant on another forum. from what they say and from what devs i talk to and other devs in the media it seems whoever kikizo talked to are just not talented at all. they were complaining about AA on ps3. i mean, come on... that's the last thing to be worrying about on a console like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    Why wouldn't you need AA on the PS3?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,421 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    Ciaran500 wrote:
    Why wouldn't you need AA on the PS3?

    no the articles "leaking devs" say it's hard to get AA running with other stuff because of performance, when the cell chip does AA alone, without RSX as a built-in thing, so the dip in performance is minimal. which makes me think that these devs are cowboys. or ea. same thing i guess


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭EasyBoy1974


    from that artcle and other stuff we've been hearing it sounds like we'll be getting a console that's better at x360 at some things and worse at others, a year & a bit later, twice as large and 3 times the price of M$ console.

    MS got some stick for it's worldwide release, but Sony should be trying to release quicker in this territory, especially if the machine is not the powerhouse we were primed and ready for ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,421 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    from that artcle and other stuff we've been hearing it sounds like we'll be getting a console that's better at x360 at some things and worse at others, a year & a bit later, twice as large and 3 times the price of M$ console.

    MS got some stick for it's worldwide release, but Sony should be trying to release quicker in this territory, especially if the machine is not the powerhouse we were primed and ready for ....

    look at other interviews with devs and stuff. they all pretty much say it's an ultra-powerful computer (moreso then 360 anyway). that article was fairly strange tbh.

    i don't know why any dev studio's would come out and break their nda's, unless they're cowboys. if you have a ps3 devkit you're not going to break the NDA with sony because it's sony who decide if your game comes out or not. despite the anonymity, any AAA devs wont take that kind of risk


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭steviec


    from that artcle and other stuff we've been hearing it sounds like we'll be getting a console that's better at x360 at some things and worse at others, a year & a bit later, twice as large and 3 times the price of M$ console.

    Why would Sony's parts be more expensive, bigger, and only slightly more powerful? Especially given they've had a year's more development time?

    IBM is responsible for the processor in both consoles, their essentially very similar except the Cell has more cores. The cell was designed in partnership with Sony with cost effectiveness in mind. I don't see how it could possibly be vastly more expensive than a PPC processor without any improvement in performance.

    ATI makes the 360 graphics chip, nvidia makes the PS3 one. Again, the nvidia one has slightly higher spec for the most part. The two companies have been practically neck and neck for years in the PC market, I think it's reasonable to expect an nvidia card that's making its first appearance this year will offer slightly more bang per buck than an ATI card that made its first appearance last year. Considering that's basically how its been for every card the two companies have produced for years.

    The only thing that might really differenciate the two consoles is the blu ray player, and considering all the hardware is already in there to decode blu ray movies(the same hardware that runs games), the only increase in price here would be the laser, and I doubt thats any huge sum of cash.

    All that article stated is that inexperienced developers are making slightly better looking games on the PS3 than inexperienced developers of so far made on Xbox 360. Which is exactly what I'd expect at this stage. I certainly don't think IBM & Nvidia are producing less efficient parts this year than IBM & ATI were producing last year. It doesn't make sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭GrumPy


    Whenever its out, we have mgs4 to look forward too, and by that time, the 360 will be pissing great online multi games :D can wait, a bit of competition is always good.


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