JEB teaching thing

caff

http://www.ireland.com/training/jeb/

looked it up around other sites, found out a little about it.
Have a computer sience degree and still looking for a job so thought might be worth my while looking at other qualifcations, would be quite interested in teaching. this one looks promising but would be interesed in other people opinions expecialy if anyone did it themselves.

caff

so noone?

Flukey

I haven't done that one, but I do teach computer courses and I have a training Diploma from Maynooth College, plus a Computing Degree. Try it out and consider what training work you want to do. There is a lot of contract training out there. The JEB would be a good start, but as I said, think about what it is you want to teach. It focuses mainly on basics. You may have enough with the degree, but you should look at some sort of training qualification. Get the ECDL too, if you don't have it. There is a lot of demand to teach that.

projectmayhem

surely ecdl goes out the window when you have a computer science degree? you'd like to think a guy who did 4 years of programming and stuff knows how to make a record in access accept numbers only...

anyway, if you like teaching and want to learn, why not go all out and get your masters and persue lecturing? pays well and seems to be a good life

Flukey

Of course his knowledge would be well beyond the ECDL, as mine is. However a lot of the training work does involve that kind of work, so you should officially have it. I just did all ECDL the exams in one go, as I did for many other things, as I had the knowledge, so it was not a problem. I am sure it would be the same for him. So it is not from the perspective of learning the stuff that he should do it, but for the purpose of having on a CV, even when it is nothing compared to a degree. It may just be a case of sitting the exams straight off, like I did. He can then get the trainers one, which is just a formality, and then he can teach those courses.

If he is starting out in training then it is one of the types of things he may be asked to teach and it is a good way to get your foot in the door of teaching courses for companies. Once in, then you start teaching the more advanced type of things, which I am sure he is capable of. Having said that, I have taught some people who were well qualified, but still learned new things when doing the ECDL type of training. A lot of people who use computers to a high level aren't actually familiar with some of the basics of things like Spreadsheets. So having a degree doesn't necessarily mean he knows how to use Access.

The ECDL is primarily aimed at beginners but also at people who have some knowledge, but no formal certification in it. You often have people working in an office, using standard applications, having been self taught. They just do the ECDL to get that certification. I have always been able to teach them new things though. You often get the "I didn't know you could do that" or "I didn't know you could do that that way" sort of response from people with existing knowledge and experience.

The nature of computers is that there is always more to learn. Having more things on your CV is good too, even if the new things you add are at a lower level than some things already on it. They are all in different areas, so they are beneficial. So get what you can. If you are going into training, then having a wide range of things on your CV, no matter what the level, is important. So even if he has a degree but doesn't have the ECDL, then my advice would be to get it.

bobbyjoe

They do it in Senior college dun laoghaire.

www.scd.ie

Flukey

They do it in loads of places. Presuming he has already the technical ability to do it, all he is looking for is a place where he can walk in and do the exams, without sitting the course. This link will give such places and ones where the full course can be done.

http://www.ics-skills.net/public/search.asp

gonker

I passed it a few years ago.The JEB is a teaching diploma with the ecdl tagged on. You do have to have passed the ecdl to do the course asfaik.
It is a lot of teaching theory in it, it touches on psycology and stuff.
You cant just go and sit the exam.
You would really have to do the course as 50% of the course is a scheme of work that you do during the year.
It is very intensive. I didnt see anyone for the year I did it and I know of people whos marriages have broken up because of it...I know it sounds strange but the partners just thought it was a "computer course" and didnt realise how involved it was. You can also go on to do the Advanced Teaching Diploma.
I used it a few times but I found I didnt have the patience to teach a crowd of teenagers...I have taught a few people one to one.

projectmayhem

gonker wrote:

I found I didnt have the patience to teach a crowd of teenagers...I have taught a few people one to one.

is there not a big market for teaching adults in computers these days? as part of night courses or being hired by companies to do so?

(just throwing out some thoughts)

py2006

gonker wrote:

I passed it a few years ago.The JEB is a teaching diploma with the ecdl tagged on. You do have to have passed the ecdl to do the course asfaik.
It is a lot of teaching theory in it, it touches on psycology and stuff.
You cant just go and sit the exam.
You would really have to do the course as 50% of the course is a scheme of work that you do during the year.
It is very intensive. I didnt see anyone for the year I did it and I know of people whos marriages have broken up because of it...I know it sounds strange but the partners just thought it was a "computer course" and didnt realise how involved it was. You can also go on to do the Advanced Teaching Diploma.
I used it a few times but I found I didnt have the patience to teach a crowd of teenagers...I have taught a few people one to one.

Its not that bloody instensive ffs!!!! I did it last year in Dorset College. And they have actually dumbed it down this year. There is less exams and the course is shorter! Its piss easy to do!

It only really qualifies you to teach ECDL or FETAC Level 3/4!

But alot of places would take you on to instruct other areas if you hold a relevant degree on top of this!

gonker

I spoke to my tutor after I read this thread and he said that they dumbed it down the year after I did it . There was such a high failure rate they had to make it easier and thats not a joke out of my class of 30 only 6 passed and that was echoed in all the courses that were held that year.
So if it is easier go for it.....