Consistently losing

BrokenArrows

I am fairly new to poker and consider myself an ok player now. When i started out about 6months ago i was consistently winning.

I made a good profit of about $80 from $15 in about 3 weeks online on the .02/.04c tables. I cashed out and took a break and read up alot about poker.

Since then im playing the .05c/.10c tables and losing.
Dont understand why.

I can play in online MTT's and almost always get into the lower rankings on the money or atleast close enough.

But in cash games i seem to lose.

Any advice?

Edit:Fixed loosing to losing

Daithio

You're relatively new to poker so my advice would be to concentrate on one aspect of the game and stick to it. Either play cash games, multis or sit and goes, don't try to rotate between the three of them. They're all extremely different and if you're not that experienced it's very easy to mix up the different styles. After a while you'll be able to switch between them easier. Seeing as you're winning in multis at the moment I'd stick to them for a while and see how you get on, although alot of people think the best poker players tend to start out as cash game players and then move on to multis.

Hectorjelly

I think personally stts are a great way to learn poker.

Daithio

Hectorjelly wrote:

I think personally stts are a great way to learn poker.

I'd agree with this actually. Start playing the micro limit stts and gradually work your way up. Try pokerstars, their stts have excellent structures.

iBoT

i would stick to cash games for now, u'll get the hang of it and if you dont try stt's or mtt's for a while.

if you are playing to try and make a few dollars and are an overall loser, over say a period of a year or so,give it up poker is not for you.

unless you have got money to burn!

shoutman

iBoT wrote:

if you are playing to try and make a few dollars and are an overall loser, over say a period of a year or so,give it up poker not for you.

unless you have got money to burn!

IMO Thats a load of nonsense. You aren't going to start playing poker and instantly become a consistent winner.
I think that stt's are definately the way to go when it comes to developing skills as a poker player, often when playing in low limit cash games you will be playing against nine others who dont give a damn about the cash, at least in low limit stts there will be a few who take it seriously.

Ladbrokes do $2 sngs and $5 sngs and upwards. They do 20 hand blind level games which are very good for developing skills as they wont turn into a crapshoot coming towards the end, I've also found that the standard of poker at these levels is pretty good. Ten times better then those who play these levels on pokerstars. I know many would take good players as being a bad thing but it definately helps improve the game and you dont suffer as many horrendous bad beats as players arent usually going all in with any two cards.

Also to improve as a player just keep gathering as much information about the game, read hand historys and different peoples opinions on how to play hands. etc.

There is a lot of good knowledgeable players here on boards and I for one have learnt a lot from reading threads on here.

iBoT

if havnt started to make money after a year i would be a bit worried for you or any other poker player(not gamblers).

edit : i know you dont start off winning i tell my friends who want to start playing,treat it like an investment but if they are loseing heavily over an period of time they should quit because its not for them.

Gholimoli

Hectorjelly wrote:

I think personally stts are a great way to learn poker.

i agree,
i was going to sggest to start here .
there alot that you can learn from STTs that can later be transformed to other types.

AmarilloFats

It's ok to lose(for a while). Maybe concentrate on one type of poker as advised..But I think STT's and cash might be a good idea..Get poker tracker...POst hands here..You're not unlucky, the game is not rigged, it's not because your opponents are too bad to appreciate your awesome moves...And don't start playing 50/100 on UB!!!
Playing lots and Analysing your own play with others advise(on boards) is a quick road..
Very best of luck

Mr. Flibble

In micro limit cash games, try this formula:

Always raise with AA KK QQ JJ TT AK AQ KQ.
Never call a raise with AQ or QK.
Limp in with KJ AJ AT.
Limp with all pocket pairs
Don't bother with suited connectors. You'll usually end up drawing to a straight or flush and just get in trouble with it. I don't think they're worth it when playing weak players.
Never play an Ace with a weak kicker.


Don't go all in vs a big stack with QQ.
Only call raises with low pocket pairs if the raise is small (4x the BB or less) and the raiser has a big stack (hoping to double through if you hit a set and he has an overpair or hits top pair).


You'll find that you are hardly playing any hands at all, so you might want to play at 2 or more tables at a time.

If you are not sure weather to call a raise, just fold and play another hand. The blinds are so small compared to the raises that it doesn't hurt to wait.

Now, don't hold me responsible if it all goes FUBAR - it just works for me. Good luck

fade2black

***We should take out a large banner for a couple of weeks - LOSE = to not win at something. LOOSE = something is not fastened properly.

Variations = Lose, Losing, Lost, Loser.

Apologies but every second person seems to do it.****

OP - do you think you could benefit from not playing as much for a while...what I mean is sometimes players can suffer a mental burn out for the game if they play it too often. Sometimes it's better to take a couple of days break every now and again, to renew your interest for it and also to gain perspective about what it is you are doing and what you want to do.

DeadParrot

you gotta just know when to step back alright.
Strangely, reading posts on here can get me thinking too much about me hands and not using instinct, but that was when i was just starting out.

oh yeah, and dont limp with aces

Culchie

iBoT wrote:

if havnt started to make money after a year i would be a bit worried for you or any other poker player(not gamblers).

edit : i know you dont start off winning i tell my friends who want to start playing,treat it like an investment but if they are loseing heavily over an period of time they should quit because its not for them.

That's tosh.

If you drive a car badly to start with, no matter how many years you play are driving, unless you've got some decent instruction, you're still going to be a bad driver. I know you know plenty of shocking school teachers in their 60's, and some good obnes in their 20's.

Quantity of time playing poker is nowhere near as important as quality of that time spent.
I see fellahs at some tourneys who were there the first night i played, and they haven't learned a thing.
They are either gone home early, or have a ginormous stack of chips after sucking out on someone along the way playing K6 or something, but they never finish in the money, and will always be used as an ATM when it gets down the the business end of a tourney.

If you're a losing player, you need to decide I want to become a winning player. If you have no-one to show you how to play the game Read Books, read HectorJelly and NickyOD etc, that's plenty of material out there.

It will take a few months, but it will happen, if you decide "I want to be a winning player", and go about achieving that.

Dub13

Some good advice there from Culchie...Mick you are talking alot of sense these days are you off the drink or something .

Culchie

Dub13 wrote:

Some good advice there from Culchie...Mick you are talking of sense these days are you off the drink or something .

Not too well Paul atm ... good idea though, think I'll make a hot whiskey, cheers:D

Dub13

I hope you get better soon...next weekend is a big one for you and you will have to be sharp.

kincsem

I think attitude is as important as ability. You need to be honest with yourself. Are you playing with as much effort and care as when you started? Or are you playing mechanically without thinking? Some players will call when they know they are beaten. Can you fold a hand? Are you betting enough when you have a hand?

A good idea is to download a hand history from a tournament you played. Read down through it and put comments beside your play. Actually go to the trouble of writing down a comment on each play. Then read it. Make a list of your errors. Then read that list.