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  • 28-01-2006 3:02am
    #1
    Hectorjelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭


    3 handed, villain is kind of bad but I havent been paying any attention so Im not sure what type of bad. Hes not crazy or anything, just kind of dull. Over the last 12 orbits Ive raised his BB about 6 times. Ive won the pot every time, either preflop, on the flop on the turn or at a showdown.

    This time I raise with 67o. He calls. (His calling range is quite wide). The flop is 237. He checks and I bet 30 (pot is 42). Up to this point I have been checking a lot of the flops so this might look a little suspicous. I kind of have to bet here given the vunerable nature of my hand. He makes it 60. (Min raise). Whats my play? He has 200 left and I cover him.


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  • #2
    NickyOD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    I don't play on tribecca and I don't know the nature of the check min raise on those tables. On party, given the fact that this player has been happy to be a push over for so long I would let this one go and give him respect for a big pair or a flopped set because you wouldn't have the correct odds to draw out on him. This is how a bad player on Party would play a big hand but this is not on Party so I don't know.

    Since you posted this hand I know you didn't fold. You most likely called and evaluated on the turn, which would be my second choice.


  • #3
    Hectorjelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    Calling and reevaluating on turn would be ok with a high pair but I cant really give a free card can I? Also reevaluating really means calling his inevitable all in.

    Normally I would auto fold this, but given it was 3 handed and I had been bullying him so much i dont think its an auto anything.


  • #4
    NickyOD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    Hectorjelly wrote:
    Calling and reevaluating on turn would be ok with a high pair but I cant really give a free card can I? Also reevaluating really means calling his inevitable all in.

    Is an all in really that inevitable?


  • #5
    Hectorjelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    NickyOD wrote:
    Is an all in really that inevitable?

    im not sure but its what i would do if I was bluffing in his spot.


  • #6
    NickyOD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    Hectorjelly wrote:
    im not sure but its what i would do if I was bluffing in his spot.

    lol! So call and then call again when he inevitably goes all in if he'd do what you would do. :D

    You didn't really reraise him here did you? Did you min-reraise? I'd have to take a shower afterwards if I did that.


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  • #7
    Bozzer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭Bozzer


    If you don’t fold then pushing > calling imo.
    I don’t think this opponent(as described) is likely to continue to bluff on the turn should you call the flop,so I don’t think you can extract much more value from his hand range by letting him see a turn. In other words you are likely to lose money on any turn action.

    So seeing as you’re unlikely to extract much more value, then you should focus on hand protection. Your push is not gonna be called by any worse hands, but it can fold out better hands.

    That said, I would probably take the safe option and fold. Maybe if you’d been betting more flops I would change my mind.

    Edit: read stack size wrong. You don't have to push if you decide to raise.


  • #8
    Hectorjelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    At first I thought, oh Ive been minraised on the flop now wheres the fold button. Then I realised that I had been checking flops constantly and then turning up on the river with either a monster or a raise; a bet is going to look like I missed the flop. So being in two minds I decided to push as its more fun. He folded. I wasnt happy really afterwards, I hate making large bets where If Im called Im behind (bar bluffs obv). Looking back now though if I make it 120 more I have effectively committed myself, as his most likely hand is an overpair, so I dont thinks theres much difference.


  • #9
    Bozzer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭Bozzer


    Hectorjelly wrote:
    I hate making large bets where If Im called Im behind (bar bluffs obv).

    One of the strangest situations in poker,which doesn't crop up often, is pushing when you are virtually never getting called by a worse hand aswell as virtually never folding out a better hand. Yet that doesn't mean it's -EV.
    HECTORJELLY wrote:
    Looking back now though if I make it 120 more I have effectively committed myself, as his most likely hand is an overpair, so I dont thinks theres much difference.

    I think I could've folded to a push had I made it 120. I really don't think you're ever ahead when he pushes, in which case you're not getting the right price.
    The advantage a push would have is folding out some hands you are behind to which would play on had you min-raised(7 better kicker or 8's/9's)


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